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    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    Well fuck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    Hyperbole.

    Fascism involves believing your people are superior to other peoples genetically, that your people are more evolved than others.

    If you're willing to vote for Trump he'd be more than happy to call you his own, no matter what your origins were.

    No that is nazism. Nazism=\= fascism
    In fascism uniok is achieved by division. The other
    In Trump the other is politicians, illegal inmograntsg, Hillary and China

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    You've been a fascist country for a long time now.

    Germany lost the second world war, Fascism won it. - George Carlin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Octavios View Post
    You've been a fascist country for a long time now.

    Germany lost the second world war, Fascism won it. - George Carlin.
    And you have been a free country now for a long time because we helped to free you from the Nazi's.

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    When you have arch Neo-Cons like Kagan claiming they hate Trump-style fascism, you know the train is about to come off the track. This is "Republicans" eating their own.

    It's like Hitler having some Nazis killed because they didn't exactly fall into line, or dared to question some of his policies.

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    In france with have a solution with this, "" don't fight back "".... that's why we have the same behavior with muslims like what we did with germans in 1940.

    Just waiting for the USA to kill those things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimaryColor View Post
    The inherent right of citizens to express their non-violent opinions without being silenced.

    The point is that if you don't like Trump because he is authoritarian and would silence his opponents, you should also maintain that same principal in a universal context.
    The part of my reply already you omitted in your reply already told you that Trump is the only one doing this. Universal application is only Trump...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luxxor View Post
    You dont need to be a millennial to dislike all of the candidates either? Its a symptom of their generation to try to equate 2 different people that are entirely different just to over dramatize how they disagree.

    When Trump kills millions of Jews in ethnic cleansing and torches half of known civilization let me know, until then spare everyone the drama queen act.
    Hitler was fascist before the first jews and disabled were ever gassed.
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    There is a problem, but I know just banning guns will fix the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeRoy View Post
    Trump cannot be "Fascist".

    One of the main points of Fascism is that the Man purpose was to further the goals of his Nation with his own actions.
    Without that salt of socialism it cannot be Fascism.
    A dictator taking private wealth by gunpoint and the threat of mob brutality and party loyalty is not "socialism".
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    There is a problem, but I know just banning guns will fix the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Gheeze. Who is the perfect candidate now? Each has their stances , you ether agree with most of it or you do not. Does not mean you have to agree with them totally on every single thing. And everyone, every candidate has said dumb things. And yeah, it is subjective what those are based on your own values. But it remains to be true no matter. My preference for him over Hillary are based on what his platform is as a whole versus hers. If anything, according to the polls, he is less popular than she is. :P
    I understand not liking Hillary's platform, but Trump doesn't really have one. You go to Hillary's or any other candidates site and you have a lot of information on the their platform. You got to Trump's and he has 7...

    1 is about a wall being built on an ultimatum that is the same as the result.
    2 is about healthcare, which is the same GOP HSA plan, with an added caveat of a sliding up words on earning cost cutting measure.
    3 is taxes, which includes taxes so low on corporations that loopholes are made "redundant". Which is bad enouph, but he lists it in the section of how it will pay for it self.
    4 is China, which shares the declaring them currency manipulators with Hillary's plan, then details how it will protect corporate interest in China, including "bolstering troops" off the coast of China.
    5 is guns, which includes removing back ground checks, because according to his site, it works to deter criminals buying guns legitimately.
    6 is veteran care, which complains about increased spending, but who's solution includes increased spending in the same rational as those he listed as wrong prior to his solution.
    7 is immigration, which as you'd expect is mostly the wall. But, also includes increased spending by tripping ICE officers and a nationwide e-verify, which already exists.

    If you combine them, the spending he introduces is simply unrealistic to be paid for by the massive tax cuts to the top and corporations. It's very similar to Bush, in that there is a lot of spending and cuts to tax revenue, but Bush inherited a surplus... Trump will inherit a massive deficit... It won't take 7 years for Trump to bail out corporations, Trump corporation included...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taftvalue View Post
    I don't know about other people but I'm gonna vote for Trump because he's against illegal immigration, amnesty and critical of Globalism and Free Trade.

    Also wants to lower my taxes \o/.
    No. You're going to vote for Trump because he's told you that he's against illegal immigration, amnesty, and criticial of Globalism and Free Trade (and on taxes, he's put forth a plan that would cut the tax burden of most Americans by 4-5%, and that of the top 1% of Americans by about 18%), and because you believe him despite his long history of illegally hiring undocumented immigrants, supporting globalism (such as by outsourcing his manufacturing to China) and lying to all and sundry.


    Quote Originally Posted by Taftvalue View Post
    Guess that makes me a fascist. Oh well, too bad.
    It doesn't make you a fascist, save by association - it does make you naive, overly credible, and/or willfully ignorant.
    "In today’s America, conservatives who actually want to conserve are as rare as liberals who actually want to liberate. The once-significant language of an earlier era has had the meaning sucked right out of it, the better to serve as camouflage for a kleptocratic feeding frenzy in which both establishment parties participate with equal abandon" (Taking a break from the criminal, incompetent liars at the NSA, to bring you the above political observation, from The Archdruid Report.)

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    If fascism comes to America, it does so thanks to the regressive leftists and SJWs. It'll be a kneejerk reaction to their absolute stupidity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sydänyö View Post
    If fascism comes to America, it does so thanks to the regressive leftists and SJWs. It'll be a kneejerk reaction to their absolute stupidity.
    Is western society more free and open than it was, say, in the 1940's?
    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    There is a problem, but I know just banning guns will fix the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    You don't need to be a millennial to dislike Trump or any of the Republican candidates.
    Being Gen-X helps. He always was and always will be a joke to us. Sadly we are the smallest voice -_-

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    Yet for some reason the term "regressive left" and "SJW" were only used by your kind in the last 5 years.
    Fascistic far right parties and groups are way older than that.
    Yeah, the regressive leftism and SJW phenomenon is, indeed, much more recent than fascism. That has nothing to do with what I said though. If fascism will gain more of a foothold in the US, or in Europe for that matter, it'll be through a kneejerk reaction to this regressive left SJW bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taftvalue View Post
    I don't know about other people but I'm gonna vote for Trump because he's against illegal immigration, amnesty and critical of Globalism and Free Trade.

    Also wants to lower my taxes \o/.

    Guess that makes me a fascist. Oh well, too bad.
    That's what he tells you at least.

    Look at his investment portfolio. This guy is totally against globalism and free trade! That's why he invests into Ford, Amazon and Apple, amirite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    I understand not liking Hillary's platform, but Trump doesn't really have one. You go to Hillary's or any other candidates site and you have a lot of information on the their platform. You got to Trump's and he has 7...

    1 is about a wall being built on an ultimatum that is the same as the result.
    2 is about healthcare, which is the same GOP HSA plan, with an added caveat of a sliding up words on earning cost cutting measure.
    3 is taxes, which includes taxes so low on corporations that loopholes are made "redundant". Which is bad enouph, but he lists it in the section of how it will pay for it self.
    4 is China, which shares the declaring them currency manipulators with Hillary's plan, then details how it will protect corporate interest in China, including "bolstering troops" off the coast of China.
    5 is guns, which includes removing back ground checks, because according to his site, it works to deter criminals buying guns legitimately.
    6 is veteran care, which complains about increased spending, but who's solution includes increased spending in the same rational as those he listed as wrong prior to his solution.
    7 is immigration, which as you'd expect is mostly the wall. But, also includes increased spending by tripping ICE officers and a nationwide e-verify, which already exists.

    If you combine them, the spending he introduces is simply unrealistic to be paid for by the massive tax cuts to the top and corporations. It's very similar to Bush, in that there is a lot of spending and cuts to tax revenue, but Bush inherited a surplus... Trump will inherit a massive deficit... It won't take 7 years for Trump to bail out corporations, Trump corporation included...
    Funny how I can read his positions on his website https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positio...endment-rights and not get what you seem to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sydänyö View Post
    If fascism comes to America, it does so thanks to the regressive leftists and SJWs. It'll be a kneejerk reaction to their absolute stupidity.
    No, until SJW start passing laws to block other speech, this is simply not true. In fact, SJW being able to express views you don't like, is an example of freedom of speech. Them talking shit about not liking what you say, is no different than you complaining about what they say. The fact that you feel unable to respond, is not fascism, but your inability to articulate your self in a way that disagrees with them, but doesn't confirm their opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Funny how I can read his positions on his website https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positio...endment-rights and not get what you seem to see.
    BACKGROUND CHECKS. There has been a national background check system in place since 1998. Every time a person buys a gun from a federally licensed gun dealer – which is the overwhelming majority of all gun purchases – they go through a federal background check. Study after study has shown that very few criminals are stupid enough to try and pass a background check – they get their guns from friends/family members or by stealing them. So the overwhelming majority of people who go through background checks are law-abiding gun owners. When the system was created, gun owners were promised that it would be instant, accurate and fair. Unfortunately, that isn’t the case today. Too many states are failing to put criminal and mental health records into the system – and it should go without saying that a system’s only going to be as effective as the records that are put into it. What we need to do is fix the system we have and make it work as intended. What we don’t need to do is expand a broken system.
    There you go, in bold... Study after study shows that background checks deter criminals buying guns. Which to Trump means it's unfair...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daelak View Post
    Hitler was fascist before the first jews and disabled were ever gassed.


    Indeed. If you look into Hitler's early rise there was absolutely nothing in his platform about beginning a world war or committing genocide. It was all about making Germany great again because they were not the great power they used to be, that Jews were making the country weak and that he would deport them, that outside enemies were taking advantage of them due to this current weakness which is something he would fix, and that just in general he would make the country great again without specifically outlining how. All of that was wrapped up in populism, using attacks on minority groups as a rallying cry, thuggishness, a general tolerance for violence among supporters, and a personality cult following that would find excuses for anything and everything he might do/say that was troubling.

    Now does that remind you of anyone alive right now?

    There is a reason people compare Trump to Hitler - its because he is following the Hitler playbook to a tee. Now that does not mean Trump is insane enough to start a world war or commit genocide, I personally don't think he is, but there is this tiny weeny bit of doubt on that because of the electoral playbook he is using, and that alone should be enough to rule him out as a candidate for anyone with the slightest bit of intelligence.
    Quote Originally Posted by Redtower View Post
    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
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    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    Indeed. If you look into Hitler's early rise there was absolutely nothing in his platform about beginning a world war or committing genocide. It was all about making Germany great again because they were not the great power they used to be, that Jews were making the country weak and that he would deport them, that outside enemies were taking advantage of them due to this current weakness which is something he would fix, and that just in general he would make the country great again without specifically outlining how. All of that was wrapped up in populism, using attacks on minority groups as a rallying cry, thuggishness, a general tolerance for violence among supporters, and a personality cult following that would find excuses for anything and everything he might do/say that was troubling.

    Now does that remind you of anyone alive right now?

    There is a reason people compare Trump to Hitler - its because he is following the Hitler playbook to a tee. Now that does not mean Trump is insane enough to start a world war or commit genocide, I personally don't think he is, but there is this tiny weeny bit of doubt on that because of the electoral playbook he is using, and that alone should be enough to rule him out as a candidate for anyone with the slightest bit of intelligence.
    I don't personally think he will start gassing inner city blacks or feminists, but his election into the Presidency will be a new chapter is US mediocrity in the world, with us losing global hegemony in our currency, as well as the rise of China as being the world leader/steer in the global economy, giving way to lost trillions in unrealized profits of new 21st century sectors.
    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    There is a problem, but I know just banning guns will fix the problem.

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