Hillary Clinton Declared Presumptive Dem Nominee

[Uoyredrum]

So why does Bernie get the pass? Just like Kasich he didn't win his nomination. So why should the super delegates vote for Bernie over Clinton but the same argument can't be used for Kasich over Trump?

That's up to the super delegates to decide at the convention. That's what they're there for. To sway the nomination and make sure the strongest candidate for the general election wins. I don't agree with it, but it's primarily why they exist, and it's their call at the convention. Republicans don't have to worry about that, as they don't use super delegates.

Also I would say another notable difference is Bernie having the possibility to reach the needed number of delegates, whereas it was literally impossible for Kasich to get there months ago.

[Deleted]

And his senate job is over (the repercussion would be harsh) and a liberal candidate anywhere in the United States will get minimal funding from the DNC in response.

Bernie Sanders used to be an Independent. He does not need the DNC. Like at all.

He has enough support to even start his own party...

[MoFalcon]

Comrade Bernie Ignores Will of the People - Republicans in the general

shows complete lack of knowledge.

Socialism IS NOT communism..... you have no idea how many programs that everyone enjoys today are socialist programs.

Some things should not have a profit motive attached to them! Education, health insurance, jails system to name a few.

stop and learn before you say something stupid again please.

[akris15]

shows complete lack of knowledge.

Socialism IS NOT communism..... you have no idea how many programs that everyone enjoys today are socialist programs.

Some things should not have a profit motive attached to them! Education, health insurance, jails system to name a few.

stop and learn before you say something stupid again please.

I know the difference I am just saying the message the Republicans will say. You cannot tell me that Bernie wouldn't be presented as some undemocratic figure if he wins this way from Republican PACS

[Manabomb]

I love how She thinks She's just automatically winning with SUPER DELEGATES who don't even get to vote until July 25th, but HEY - GOOD JOB HILLARY - JK, hillaryforprison.com #feelthebern #idrathervoteTRUMPthanhillary

Voting for Trump over Hilary as a Bernie supporter is political suicide. It's exactly what a child would do, throw a tantrum after not getting what he wants. And if you honestly believe the right wing drivel that pours out of the Republicans mouths about Hilary (For the last 16+ years, might I add), it's a wonder you were ever a Bernie supporter to begin with.

[Vynestra]

Just like he Can't win the Republican nomination

Well his bigoted and racist views aligned with many of theirs, so that makes sense.


But america isn't the republican party, and definitely not the racist and bigoted part.

Not all trump supporters are racists and bigots, but most racists and bigots are trump supporters. It's brought out a pretty gross part of their party, and I think a lot of moderates and repubs in general want to distance themselves from it.

But you're comparing apples to oranges.


Trump can win, but he probably won't. Once the party unifies and Obama/Biden are out campaigning hard for her, maybe warren as VP....

it's over, and add Sanders to the mix.

[MoFalcon]

I know the difference I am just saying the message the Republicans will say. You cannot tell me that Bernie wouldn't be presented as some undemocratic figure if he wins this way from Republican PACS

apologies, doesn't read that way.

no way trump beats Bernie...no way. he would be destroyed in every debate. trump is a con-man. someone just needs to call him on it. In public...in front of millions. Bernie would do that!

[akris15]

apologies, doesn't read that way.

no way trump beats Bernie...no way. he would be destroyed in every debate. trump is a con-man. someone just needs to call him on it. In public...in front of millions. Bernie would do that!

Clinton did an ok job at it the other day. I think she will be ok on that front. Just talked down to him but not directly towards him

[Healing Rain]

So the Dems nominated someone I can't stand listening to and would never listen to if she were elected because of how awful she is?

[Manabomb]

It's called the left, right paradigm
Here is a wiki about learn something https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left%E...right_paradigm

And Trump being worse than Hillary [IMG][/IMG]

And how is Trump better than Hilary? Because he incites the middle class that's been shit on by Republicans for years? Or because of all the brainwashing jargon thrown about Hilary? Or are you a veteran and are offended by the fact that we "could have" intervened at Benghazi, even though when the decision came down to wire we would have risked (and likely lost) more than the 4 soldiers lost?

Please, tell me. What is so unbelievably terrible about Hilary that makes you want a populist, scumbag that has more hands in shadow companies than the President of China be President of our country? I just don't fucking see it, unless you're a mindless drone that goes from sucking the tit of one propaganda machine and then switching to another, I'm just really unclear as to what your inner motivations are other than misinformation.

[triplesdsu]

Trust me the last thing Bernie would want is to win by superdelegates. Can you imagine those republican attack ads? "Comrade Bernie ignores the will of the people! Candidate with the least votes wins nomination!"

That was the ONLY way he could win it.

[Veldoranz]

It was over before it even started. I am not sure why anyone expected anything else, I mean, the reason you didn't see 16 Democrats running was because everyone had this silent agreement that it would be her year.

Honestly, I really do like Bernie, though I think his campaign has been becoming a bit arrogant in the past few months. I suppose it's because he realized a little late that in order to win, you have to act like a complete cunt. He probably would have won if it weren't for his softball antics very early on. If I were a betting man, I would say that Hillary being the nominee doesn't even really matter, because Trump is going to rek her in the general. Keep in mind this is coming from a guy who isn't going to vote for either.

[purebalance]

Im for Hillary, but this seems really soon. I mean its likely true, but I rather see the process play itself out first.

Although this is getting to Scooby Doo levels of silly. "I woulda won the nomination if it werent for you darned super delegates".

I mean really I love how people think "oh super delegates means my vote doesn't matter" when really it's the party that is nominating and not an election anyway. Super delegates are high ranking members of the party and should get a choice in the matter as opposed to Joe Blow's vote.

[Cherrytie]

Gonna enjoy Trump as prez

[Deleted]

Super delegates are high ranking members of the party and should get a choice in the matter as opposed to Joe Blow's vote.

What exactly makes corrupt career politicians more suited to pick a president than the actual citizens of a country?

That's the dumbest thing I've read today.

[akris15]

What exactly makes corrupt career politicians more suited to pick a president than the actual citizens of a country?

That's the dumbest thing I've read today.

Funny part is expect the republicans to have a superdelegate system starting in 2020. The only reason said system exists is to prevent people like Trump/McGovern from being the nominee

[triplesdsu]

Hillary losing to trump....Bernie beating trump....who do you think they will back at the convention?

the dems dont want to lose, "F" who is wining between Hillary and Bernie .

Dont count your chickens too soon hillary!!

The people who are actually voting said Hillary and they were sure. Read the AP article.

[Deleted]

Funny part is expect the republicans to have a superdelegate system starting in 2020. The only reason said system exists is to prevent people like Trump/McGovern from being the nominee

You shouldn't block people that you don't agree with from becoming president. If the people want Trump, then they get Trump.

It's this little thing called Democracy. I don't know if you've heard of it...

[akris15]

You shouldn't block people that you don't agree with from becoming president. If the people want Trump, then they get Trump.

It's this little thing called Democracy. I don't know if you've heard of it...

I never stated I agree or disagree with the system.

[purebalance]

No it isnt. None are. He would need to win 70-30 for it to matter. That wont happen.

It is for Republican, but not Democrat. The Republican side is basically if you win a district you get 3 delegates and whoever wins overall gets 10 extra.