UK: marijuana should it be legal?

[XangXu]

Because if smoking it can be inhaled by others. Second hand smoke.

Why would pot smokers not be subjected to the same location smoking laws?

And in fact... who even "smokes" it any more?

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In the UK alcohol is taxed twice:

1) Standard rate VAT is charged at 20%.

2) Beer, Cider, Spirits and Wine all have there own 'built in' tax rates too, e.g 'Beer Duty' is charged at 8.10 pence per litre or 18.37 pence per litre or 23.85 pence per litre depending on the alcohol strength.

https://www.gov.uk/tax-on-shopping/alcohol-tobacco

That's really cool I'm so happy for you guys. I wish Canada would tax it more.

[dragonvalor]

Why would pot smokers not be subjected to the same location smoking laws?

And in fact... who even "smokes" it any more?

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That's really cool I'm so happy for you guys. I wish Canada would tax it more.

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That's why I said smoking weed is more akin to tabaccoo

[XangXu]

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That's why I said smoking weed is more akin to tabaccoo

ho ho

mr sly

[dragonvalor]

Also im no MJ expert but im pretty confident smoking weed is still the most common, cheapest and easy access way of consumption

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If weed is legal then there will be a barrier to entry, just like booze and cigarettes. Anyone who makes the "what about the children" argument is either uneducated or just a prohibitionist.

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is booze "heavily" taxed?

i smoke cigarettes and its not a gateway to harder drugs thats absolute rubbish lots of people smoke and drink and they outweigh the statistics of weed smokers, only a person as idiotic as you or someone dumber than you would think that

[dragonvalor]

i smoke cigarettes and its not a gateway to harder drugs thats absolute rubbish lots of people smoke and drink and they outweigh the statistics of weed smokers, only a person as idiotic as you or someone dumber than you would think that

I don't understand how your comment relates to that quote

[XangXu]

Also im no MJ expert but im pretty confident smoking weed is still the most common, cheapest and easy access way of consumption

but that's the thing. It is only cheapest because of prohibition. In a normal, legalized market, prices of weed SHOULD be incredibly lower, making way for competition in vaporizer design, and cheaper more healthy oils and concentrates.

I mean it IS a plant... It's like.... grain...endless almost.

[dragonvalor]

but that's the thing. It is only cheapest because of prohibition. In a normal, legalized market, prices of weed SHOULD be incredibly lower, making way for competition in vaporizer design, and cheaper more healthy oils and concentrates.

I mean it IS a plant... It's like.... grain...endless almost.

Yeah but preparing a bong takes considerably longer than just lighting up

[XangXu]

Yeah but preparing a bong takes considerably longer than just lighting up

it's also just gross, and blossomed out of a culture that was very secretive. It's akin to like...

brewing coffee through a dirty sock, because coffee is illegal, so no coffee filters... or kurigs for that matter

[Nakotsu]

everyone knows alcohol and tobacco is more dangerous than weed, how many weed related deaths are there none, how many people have lost a family member due to some twat drinking and driving = alot, how many people have died of cancer due to smoking = alot, government are so fucking dumb not to legalise and tax this in the UK,

caffeine was illegal in the UK at one point lol now its in alot of shit, hemp is useful for making shit to and then if you legalise weed it will kill the organised crime business of selling it, i hope i lsee weed on the tobacco shelfs in supermarkets or specialist shops before i die

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yus :P dandelions are annoying

I know right. I was just walking my dog and all these stupid little fuzz white things where flying around !!! Darn dandelions!!!

[dragonvalor]

it's also just gross, and blossomed out of a culture that was very secretive. It's akin to like...

brewing coffee through a dirty sock, because coffee is illegal, so no coffee filters... or kurigs for that matter

That's a debate the union of stoners can have

[Piglord]

They aren't remotely the same, way more powerful. Having a codeine isn't anything like a wrap of Heroin, doing a line of coke doesn't feel the same as smoking a rock.

A codeine isn't the same, but taking 5 or 10 is very similar. That's why pill addiction is so common. As for the second thing you said, are you aware of how crack cocaine is made? It's literally cocaine, baking soda, and a higher proof alcohol.

[Lollis]

Not if you're under 18

False. Why don't more people know about basic laws?

The age at which people are legally allowed to purchase alcohol is 18 in most circumstances. Adults purchasing alcohol on behalf of a person under 18 in a pub or from an off-licence are potentially liable to prosecution along with the vendor.

However, legislation does allow for the consumption of alcohol by those under 18 in the following circumstances:

The individual is aged 5 or older, and is at home or other private premises.
The individual is aged 16 or 17 and the alcohol, which can only be beer, wine or cider, is consumed with a table meal.

[Blobfish]

20 Benefits of smoking Marijuana:

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/he...n-you-smoke-24

It may help reverse the carcinogenic effects of tobacco and improve lung health.
It can help control epileptic seizures.
It also decreases the symptoms of a severe seizure disorder known as Dravet's Syndrome.
THC slows the progression of Alzheimer's disease.
The drug eases the pain of Multiple Sclerosis.
It lessens side-effects from treating hepatitis C and increases treatment effectiveness.
It relieves arthritis discomfort.


It improves the symptoms of Lupus, an autoimmune disorder
While not really a health benefit, marijuana spurs creativity in the brain. (Lady Gaga, Dylan & the Beetles have written some classics while stoned)
Marijuana might be able to eliminate Chron's diseases
Pot soothes tremors for people with Parkinson's disease
Marijuana helps veterans suffering from PTSD.
Marijuana protects the brain after a stroke
It can help eliminate nightmares
Weed reduces some of the awful pain and nausea from chemo, and appetite.

But Pharmaceutical companies pay hefty Backhanders to Politicians, not to legalize a Natural grown health helper

[skannerz22]

cannabis was made illegal first in usa in 1900s basically they thought cannabis oil would be clean renewable oil and they made it illegal to "protect" dirty coal and dirty oil and they later kept it illegal as a form of "protecting" the steel industry

and today it's been kept illegal as a bullshit excuse people brainwashed to think it's a dirty drug like heroin
it's a fucking plant that cures problems like leprocy, cancer, hiv(not aids) "war on drugs" bullshit people don't even know about the oil and steel industry reasons anymore

cannabis should be perfectly legal everywhere like it used to be during the 1680 – 1718 when people used to sell it labeled as "hemp" people mostly used cannabis to make ropes for ships and clothes because it was close to the strength of current era kevlar

[ParanoiD84]

There is no point having it ilegal, it's ilegal here yet i have smoked daily since along time and it's easy as fuck to buy. I have been pulled over plenty and stuff but they never do anything just saying oh you know it's bad to smoke right? like i give a damn lol.

Just think of all the resurses they will have when they stop hunting people for smoking some weed.

[Mihalik]

leprocy, cancer, hiv

Leprosy IS NOT TREATED BY CANNABIS. It's treated by Dapsone+other anti biotics. Cannabis IS NOT a fucking anti biotic.

HIV cannot fucking be cured by anything. It can be managed but not cured. It can only be treated with anti retrovirals. If you have HIV get treatment for fuck sake.

Same for cancer. Cancer cannot be treated with cannabis for fuck sake. Some symptoms of cancer can be better managed (pain) and the side effects of the treatment are more manageable with cannabis, but it doesn't fucking cure it.

Also Hemp is not fucking Kevlar. Damn it. Hemp is grown industrially in a number of countries ranging from France to China for certain industrial applications. But nobody is making bullet proof vests out of it.

Cannabis is a great painkiller. It also treats many neurological conditions. But don't fucking attribute magical properties to the damn thing.

As legalization moves forward (and it will) the pharmaceutical industry will soon isolate and market the active ingredients.

That is what commercial drugs are. Large doses of isolated active ingredients.

[Deleted]

Leprosy IS NOT TREATED BY CANNABIS. It's treated by Dapsone+other anti biotics. Cannabis IS NOT a fucking anti biotic.

I believe there has been some anecdotal evidence that medical marijuana helps with Erythema nodosum, a common complication. Users report that cannabis does help with joint pain attributable to a number of conditions. Do they just feel better for a bit because they are stoned or does it really help with the pain itself and the underlying inflammation. Who really knows at this point but it is one of the areas where further, proper, research might be of value.

(There's also some (poor quality) evidence that recreational users might be more likely to suffer from arthralgia. But to be honest so do a lot of people that don't move around enough).