Gul'dan will be ressurected like Illidan?

[TheDestinatus]

we dont know the lore cannon sargeras, as the art is not cannon

teh chronicals even has him both with red fire, and green fire!

i presume the green fire will be the cannon one as the whole thing is that when he destroyed marduum the fel infected him and gave him that feiry horned look

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the chonricals art is non cannon, and even the crhonicals shows him red or green, as sargeras is so big he could split a planet in two, do you think he would be the same size as a pitlord? (the pitlord in the background, way far away is allmost as big as him) and it could be a avatar but whatever planet that is we do not know

Chronicles already obsolete? That didn't take long.

[FelPlague]

Chronicles already obsolete? That didn't take long.

no, just the art is, allready proven by the fact that it shows both green, and red sargeras... the art is not fact checked, its just visual, their not going to go when its done "umm sorry... fuck you this is wrong, start again" like how the beasts pulling the stuff for the old gods in the "primal azeroth" look very human, and you could say "oh but constructs" nope, the titans had made very little of them by then, and also any that were there would be killed not enslaved...

[TheDestinatus]

no, just the art is, allready proven by the fact that it shows both green, and red sargeras...

How can it be non canon if it was only just released, and it was released by Blizzard artists? Are they just making art for the sake of it now?

[Pengalor]

no, just the art is, allready proven by the fact that it shows both green, and red sargeras... the art is not fact checked, its just visual, their not going to go when its done "umm sorry... fuck you this is wrong, start again" like how the beasts pulling the stuff for the old gods in the "primal azeroth" look very human, and you could say "oh but constructs" nope, the titans had made very little of them by then, and also any that were there would be killed not enslaved...

Or maybe he's turned green from an overabundance of contact with Fel energy, just like what happens to everything else?

[FelPlague]

How can it be non canon if it was only just released, and it was released by Blizzard artists? Are they just making art for the sake of it now?

1, THE ART IS NON CANON the book is canon...

and the blizzard artists do not know the lore 100% so minor things will be messed up... they most likley read the book themselves then did the art, off that, and got differant things from it

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Or maybe he's turned green from an overabundance of contact with Fel energy, just like what happens to everything else?

the whole reason hes all covered in ifre is a abundance of fel, he looked normal till he destroyed marduum, the fell energy erupted, and turned him into a massive flaming demon

[AngryCoco]

I don't think he'll ever get ressurected. Imo two expansions of Gul'dan is more than enough!

[Pengalor]

the whole reason hes all covered in ifre is a abundance of fel, he looked normal till he destroyed marduum, the fell energy erupted, and turned him into a massive flaming demon

And you're saying it can't possibly have changed over time? Also, you keep saying the art isn't canon but I have yet to see you post any kind of source confirming that, just your own interpretations and what you feel are inconsistencies.

[FelPlague]

And you're saying it can't possibly have changed over time? Also, you keep saying the art isn't canon but I have yet to see you post any kind of source confirming that, just your own interpretations and what you feel are inconsistencies.

what...? as i said above

no, just the art is, allready proven by the fact that it shows both green, and red sargeras... the art is not fact checked, its just visual, their not going to go when its done "umm sorry... fuck you this is wrong, start again" like how the beasts pulling the stuff for the old gods in the "primal azeroth" look very human, and you could say "oh but constructs" nope, the titans had made very little of them by then, and also any that were there would be killed not enslaved...

humanoid beings when their shouldent be

and both a red, and green version of sargeras

also therazane is super duper small in the art from the book, when normally she is huge, still smaller then the others, but not as small as people...

[TheDestinatus]

1, THE ART IS NON CANON the book is canon...

and the blizzard artists do not know the lore 100% so minor things will be messed up... they most likley read the book themselves then did the art, off that, and got differant things from it

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the whole reason hes all covered in ifre is a abundance of fel, he looked normal till he destroyed marduum, the fell energy erupted, and turned him into a massive flaming demon

So the artists working in the building with the rest of the design team is now too stupid to know what lore and what isn't. Man, its little surprise they can't tell a good story. I guess random fan 223156 knows the lore better than the people making the game.

[Tanthoris]

The linked picture with the green fel fire wasn't a picture of Sargeras, it was a pitlord sending in a horde of lesser demons... The art in chronicles is totally cannon, people interpret it wrong which makes them think it is not.

[FelPlague]

So the artists working in the building with the rest of the design team is now too stupid to know what lore and what isn't. Man, its little surprise they can't tell a good story. I guess random fan 223156 knows the lore better than the people making the game.

i dont think you also know but the team making the book may not be the same as in the office

also they have never confirmed if hes green or red, so really we will have to see...

again you keep pointing out things, meanwhile the evidence is right infront of you

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The linked picture with the green fel fire wasn't a picture of Sargeras, it was a pitlord sending in a horde of lesser demons... The art in chronicles is totally cannon, people interpret it wrong which makes them think it is not.

no, that is sargeras... it even says in the caption, and also the face...




either the art is non cannon, or something has happened that is not dictated i nthe lore/chronicals yet, as the art also has minor differences, chains on ones should, not on the others,

[Pengalor]

what...? as i said above

no, just the art is, allready proven by the fact that it shows both green, and red sargeras... the art is not fact checked, its just visual, their not going to go when its done "umm sorry... fuck you this is wrong, start again" like how the beasts pulling the stuff for the old gods in the "primal azeroth" look very human, and you could say "oh but constructs" nope, the titans had made very little of them by then, and also any that were there would be killed not enslaved...

humanoid beings when their shouldent be

and both a red, and green version of sargeras

also therazane is super duper small in the art from the book, when normally she is huge, still smaller then the others, but not as small as people...

In other words....you don't actually have a source, you're just speculating.

[Tanthoris]

Simple reason for why the two "sargeras" are different, they are different Avatars of his form. Which wouldn't be unheard of considering he is the size of a planet...

And until blizzard actually comes out and says it isn't cannon, it's freaking cannon, just like everyones favorite character Med'an. The only thing that is 100% confirmed to no longer be cannon is the warcraft RPG,

[FelPlague]

Simple reason for why the two "sargeras" are different, they are different Avatars of his form. Which wouldn't be unheard of considering he is the size of a planet...

And until blizzard actually comes out and says it isn't cannon, it's freaking cannon, just like everyones favorite character Med'an. The only thing that is 100% confirmed to no longer be cannon is the warcraft RPG,

well medan seems to have been retconned since suddenly khagar has aetish, and no mention of medan has been made in like how many years?

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either the art is non cannon, or something has happened that is not dictated i nthe lore/chronicals yet, as the art also has minor differences, chains on ones should, not on the others,

One is Sargeras, the other is his Avatar. Maybe that's why they're slightly different?

[Adoxe]

Speaking of Gul'dan and Illidan, I bet Illidan is the one that will save us in the cinematic during the Broken Shore when all the demons march towards us!
That's probably where the Illidan vs Gul'dan artwork is from! And then there'll be the Illidari that will be there to save us as well!

No. If Illidan shows up at the Broken Shore, he's probably gonna be the one who kills Varian since Illidan's spirit is still trapped within the nether during all of this and he communicates with Demon Hunters from the Nether as a spirit post-Shore, which wouldn't be possible if he was himself on the shore.

[FelPlague]

In other words....you don't actually have a source, you're just speculating.

well it has 2 things that contridicts itself... so yes it seems it...

if a textbook simply 100% lied about its facts every so often, would you trust the rest of it?

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One is Sargeras, the other is his Avatar. Maybe that's why they're slightly different?

but the real sargeras is as big as a planet, so they have to both be avatars, and if one isent, then it is way too small

[Tanthoris]

well medan seems to have been retconned since suddenly khagar has aetish, and no mention of medan has been made in like how many years?

Actually, it has been mentioned that he is still somewhere in the Warcraft universe during a Q&A a while back, I'd look it up, but I don't see a point in trying to fight against headcannon.

[Pengalor]

well medan seems to have been retconned since suddenly khagar has aetish, and no mention of medan has been made in like how many years?

https://twitter.com/MickyNeilson/sta...82973794430976

Medan appears to have stepped down as Guardian and given the power to the Council. Therefore, Khadgar might very well have Atiesh, or he might have a weapon that looks like it.

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well it has 2 things that contridicts itself... so yes it seems it...

if a textbook simply 100% lied about its facts every so often, would you trust the rest of it?

But you don't know there is any 'lie', you are just filling in the gaps of your knowledge with 'well, it must be wrong!'. You are assuming there is no explanation other than incorrect information for the artists.

[Tanthoris]

but the real sargeras is as big as a planet, so they have to both be avatars, and if one isent, then it is way too small

Who says that he only has one avatar? The guy is trying to literally destroy the whole universe to prevent the void from claiming a titan soul, so it would make sense if he had copies of his avatar all around the universe.