Your reason for being better with more zoom is not true. This is a tab target game, you don't see damage coming at you unless is an ability to avoid, which is perfect to avoid in a raid encounter with the default zoom, even as a melee (and I am living proof of that).
Regarding keybinds, you are the perfect example of why splitting posts is a bad thing. Considering you need to delete what I wrote, I would have assumed you would have read it all. Clearly not. I will copy/paste my post you were quoting (in its entirety) below:
See the part in bold? The part you deleted. Yea, next time read so you don't embarrass yourself. If you fail to comprehend what I put in bold to highlight, let me know and I may be able to explain that one sentence even more for you.
While the new adjusted max distance is workable enough, I'm not in favor of this approach, I'd much rather see the slider going all the way up to the current max. The design argument rings rather hollow, considering that the game handled current max distance just fine, and honestly it's an option many people got used to...
'Perfect' no. Perfect means you can see it as soon as it or any indication of it appears in the world. In your haste to 'win' the internet, you're tripping over yourself. I mean you already provided your own doubt. You have to be objective or you simply fail to have true discourse and instead are just offering your personal playstyle as the only playstyle. Yet you think I am dumb for 'not reading' your post.
I read your post. Quoting entire walls of text is bad, but I also didn't fully express what I was trying to say. I was responding to both you and the person talking about mouse clicking earlier. Since you want to be a special snowflake, yes, certain keybinds will make you a better player. As my good friend Naruto says, "Believe it".
If you have everything bound to the number keys, but don't use an MMO mouse, do you think it takes as much time to reach up and press '9' as it does to press keys around 'wasd'? What about using shift/ctrl modifiers? Do you think people who can more quickly access neighboring keys don't have the potential to do better than those using some other method? And then if you want to go arg absurdum, I can say people use binds only on the other side of their keyboard.
I mean really...thinking that all the things you can do to increase performance doesn't allow you to be a better player is asinine. Do you also think adjusting DPI settings doesn't make you a better RTS or FPS player? Same thing. I'm glad I could give you your 5 minutes of fame. Have a great day.
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Maybe I'm alone in this thought, but when I'm raiding I prefer to feel like I'm in an epic 20-man encounter, not just myself, a few melee, the boss's feet, and some invisible healer. I like being able to see boss's cast animations instead of just listening to DBM yelling at me. I want to see my guild mate getting burned in the fire, not just see it on meters afterwards.
This change really kills the immersion of raids and other large-scale encounters, and instead pushes more reliance on add-ons and UI features.
At worst they just need to come up with a compromise. Make camera distance 50 only usable while in a raid group, for instance, since raiding is the one place it truly hurts to take it away. Make it a setting with the other camera settings, so everyone can see it and use it. Simple, done. Keep the other max zoom for non-raid time, good compromise. Keeps the artists happy, saves them some face, and keeps raiders happy.
They cannot seriously even try to argue that seeing "the game's beautiful architecture" or whatever else bullshit Ion said is necessary or even possible while Mythic Archimonde is beating on your face or dropping infernals on your head. If you're raiding and looking at the architecture while you work on bosses, you're doing it wrong.
Oh no of course you are right. A mythic raider, who doesn't use it clearly is not an objective view point. If you actually read what I wrote, and you have quoted, I said it is a personal playstyle preference. Which brings me to my next point. Since I have said twice now, I think, I said "playstyle preference". On what planet does that mean my playstyle is the only one? It clearly indicates I know others play differently. If it was not obvious, I do object to Blizz's reasons for it because being zoomed out does not give anyone an advantage (beyond the basic UI limits).
You also used a quote (mine, never even mentioned clickers till now) that has nothing to do with clicking as a reference for clicking? And you call me "dumb" lol you are also going off topic horribly. I assume English is not your first language so I will dumb it down for you into a nice wee summary.
I do not agree with the change to the camera, purely on the context of the reason for it as I fail to see how zooming out more beyond the default settings is a benefit and nothing more than a playstyle preference. Regarding keybinds, I do believe they have an advantage over clickers. I have never said they didn't.
There, was that easier to understand?
And WTF does "win the Internet" even mean?
I know, but I didn't need the extra validation. Thanks anyways. I don't really think either of us are talking about the same thing, so there's nothing to say to you further. Good luck on your future efforts to 'prove' things.
I try not to hop on conspiracy bandwagons, but jokingly maybe this is their attempt to save art time by not needing to make anything beyond boss leg models. Maybe Ragnaros went on a crusade about all dem legs and feet. Who knows? But seriously I agree with your opinion.
BAD WOLF
gotta answer this with an old adage my father used to use.
do you know what the white is on top of bird shit?
more bird shit.
Blizzard is feeding us one dollop of bird shit after another till we won't even differentiate between all the bird shit on our shoulders and decent content.
There is no Bad RNG just Bad LTP
As a Gnome Tank, I only ever get to see them from the knees down. I would have to zoom out to Dalaran
Lmao, are the people at blizz making these decisions mentally challenged or something.
What an utterly and fucking idiotic decision, jesus fuck this company.
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Not my screenie but here is a screen shot of what large bosses will look like now that max zoom is disabled.
http://i.imgur.com/CbTqPpC.jpg
Correction
Watcher used to no seem like the type of person to blow smoke up our asses.
Seriously, the guy is by far my favorite public figure fir Blizzard. But his whole post doesn't sound like something a former hardcore raider would say. Chances are, this decision was either not up to him at all, or not something he agrees with, or both.
You can see this reflected in his recent post about world quests/dungeons giving small chances at powerful gear here:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/to...4759?page=2#33
This is a great example of defending your ideas that you believe in. He addresses the problem by telling people to realize that the chance of actually getting the crazy piece of gear is astronomical. But the fact that there is even a chance at all is a positive thing for the entire game.
I've already heard rumors that the camera distance change has been met with a lot of internal resistance. If there is actually a legitimate reason that it need to be done, like they are working on something that zooming out to far completely ruins, then fine. But they should give us a specific reason why it has to be this way. And I really doubt that there is.
Thats it for me, if this is not reverted I will not be playing Legion. If I have to sacrifice my gameplay because they think they know what is best for me. I'm out