Even illegal immigration is not killing the USA as Trump claims. Lets take the ethic side of it and just look at it the economic way. This is a copypasta that I made a long time ago.
This is a copypasta I made a long time ago to post in case I needed sources to defend myself.
Also what I need to add to that is how California passed from being a failed state to one of the biggest economies due to liberal policies among those that include giving illegal immigrants more rights.
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A copypasta which illustrates the increasing political difficulty of pushing a pro-immigrant tack more than illustrating their economic benefits. By importing a large number of unskilled and low-skilled workers, you necessarily decrease the cost of labor for those brackets for natives. While this can decrease the cost of goods and services produced by those workers (benefit to consumers), unless those imported workers are consuming goods equivalent to those they produce, their net effect is inflationary, eroding purchasing power.
But, but... he loves Hispanics! And the best taco bowls are made in Trump Tower Grill!
Yeah I finished one of them. I guess I should have clarified that when I was talking about inequality I was talking about income inequality (the one the guy on the video is refering to) which seems to be the one that is on the rise, rather than standards of living. Also I chuckled at the name "movimiento pinguino". Anyway I feel people give to much shit at neoliberalism and it really bothers me a lot.
Thankfully our lord and savious Scott Sumner has one again saved us.
http://www.econlib.org/library/Colum...liberalism.htm
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What?!!!!! Ok lets deconstruct these bit by bits. OK. Lets take a breath. Uff Everyone chill!!!
Lets start with this:
1. Decrease of wages of less than 5% which is negligible and more so as the minimum wage will be increased. That is without taking into account general equilibrium effects.
2. Illegal immigrants take jobs that people don't take. This is a fact.
3. General equilibrium effects.
http://www.ppic.org/content/other/2_07_GPCC_Spanish.pdf
California did a study on this, and concluded that immigration affects more immigrants than it does native americans.
Also wtf at this:
You are not making sense on this one.unless those imported workers are consuming goods equivalent to those they produce, their net effect is inflationary, eroding purchasing power
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Yes, progressive are all this and conservatives are all that. We get it. Your team is better. Stow that garbage and let's move on, shall we?
The crux of what you said is that rule of law and sovereignty mean something. We should take pride in our national identity. What exactly is that identity? Throughout most of our history its actually been the bunch of crazy progressives that are on the cutting edge of new things and willing to take on the refuse that other countries throw away. Your tired... huddled masses... you know, all of that. That's who we were. Immigration, even immigration of the illegal variety doesn't threaten that. So there's rule of law. Now, we all know that the single greatest source of illegal immigration, by overwhelming majority, is from overstaying visas. So these are people that did come legally, they had to have a job or go to school to even get a visa, and the real crime is not filling out some paperwork. Maybe their application to renew their visa was denied for some silly reason. So by the letter of the law, they should go. Who does that serve, really?
This is why people jump to assumptions about ethnocentrism or prejudice when someone rants about immigrants. That national identity thing. Basically, not white people come here and make our country less white and that somehow lessens what it is to be American. That's not at all what you said. I've heard enough people say it that I understand why some people conflate your argument with that one. Doesn't make it right, but that tends to be why they do it. Not because liberals are dumb.
Illegal immigration can be a problem. It's not a crisis. It's not one of the main problems plaguing the nation. Most illegal immigration cases are based on nitpicking paperwork situations, and not, you know, crime. So I roll my eyes when someone drones on about this stuff because it's mostly a nonissue. You don't deserve to get called a racist or anything of the sort because I haven't seen you say any such thing. You just happen to support a ridiculous issue, and I think it's funny.
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"My successes are my own, but my failures are due to extremist leftist liberals" - Party of Personal Responsibility
Prediction for the future
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La Raza Lawyers of California is an independent unincorporated association of Lawyers organized in 1977 to support Chicano and Latino Lawyers in California and serve as a statewide network for local affiliate La Raza Lawyers Groups. We meet quarterly at various locations around the state and represent 16 different local organizations with over 2,000 attorneys. We are affiliated with the Hispanic National Bar Association.
idk man, those groups tend to favour their own