[Beta] Havoc Discussion

[Unkhrahuun the Atoned]

About two weeks.

There's 2 5x class table missions that are about a day each with a day respawn

Bummer, but good to know.

Actually, that's not too bad I reckon. Could've been a lot longer.

[Deleted]

U Bros mad?
-Lesser Soul Fragments seem to work with Feast on the Souls, but not provide a damage boost when proccing off a Demon. Will double check after work. Absofuckinglutely love that FotS works on lesser soul fragments.

Thats correct, no dmg boost when the lesser soul fragments are off a demon!

[Unkhrahuun the Atoned]

Thats correct, no dmg boost when the lesser soul fragments are off a demon!

Good to hear it's not just me

I'm okay with not getting the damage boost, that'd be straight up OP coupled with Nemesis. Sincerely hoping that them working with Feast on the Souls is intended.

[Deleted]

I have a question about the momentum build: Is there any dummy (or mob) in the world to practice this with a "normal" Boss hitbox?
On the training dummy I miss effective uptime...

[Lokasu]

I have a question about the momentum build: Is there any dummy (or mob) in the world to practice this with a "normal" Boss hitbox?
On the training dummy I miss effective uptime...

You could try the "harder" rares/world bosses.

[Shirofune]

I have a question about the momentum build: Is there any dummy (or mob) in the world to practice this with a "normal" Boss hitbox?
On the training dummy I miss effective uptime...

Don't think so. Dummies are among the smallest hitboxes in the game :/

[Deleted]

ok, not what I like to hear, but thank you

[jayinjersey]

Go fight Nalak back on the isle of Thunder.


He had a "decent" hitbox...
Didn't have a one shot mechanic...
And is quite a little wimp at 110



Only downside is he isn't locked in position so he follows you...you can fix that by borrowing a tank that wants to run their rotations a bit.

Other than that, there is the Sha of Anger...but I think he can still MC you at 110
And Sha's hitbox was huge

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If Feast on the souls are intended to work on Lesser Fragments, shouldn't that be like really good then if you get to Anguish of the deceiver, those 2 combines.. should really make Eye Beam good on ST right?

[Zeeket]

If Feast on the souls are intended to work on Lesser Fragments, shouldn't that be like really good then if you get to Anguish of the deceiver, those 2 combines.. should really make Eye Beam good on ST right?

eyebeam is already good single target with anguish

[Qlix]

eyebeam is already good single target with anguish

ONLY with anguish, and by only 1% over just continuing to CS. Almost better just to save it for add cleave unless its a pure ST patchwerk fight.

[Hexxidecimal]

ONLY with anguish, and by only 1% over just continuing to CS. Almost better just to save it for add cleave unless its a pure ST patchwerk fight.

True. Though it's nice to know that I can hit the button for Demonic without feeling like I am loosing damage on my Demonic Trigger over CS

[Zeeket]

ONLY with anguish, and by only 1% over just continuing to CS. Almost better just to save it for add cleave unless its a pure ST patchwerk fight.

Was under the impression Anguish made it slightly better, Anguish + Chaos Vision made it much better, but yeh its kinda a no brainer that you're gunna delay it slightly for adds and shit if not you;re an idiot, but once you know a fight and where/when adds spawn you should be using it for single target as much as possible.

[Deleted]

Go fight Nalak back on the isle of Thunder.


He had a "decent" hitbox...
Didn't have a one shot mechanic...
And is quite a little wimp at 110



Only downside is he isn't locked in position so he follows you...you can fix that by borrowing a tank that wants to run their rotations a bit.

Other than that, there is the Sha of Anger...but I think he can still MC you at 110
And Sha's hitbox was huge

I'll give it a try, thanks a lot!

[Vanyali]

I have a question about the momentum build: Is there any dummy (or mob) in the world to practice this with a "normal" Boss hitbox?
On the training dummy I miss effective uptime...

You can do it on the moragg in our training hall - you can maintain almost 100% uptime on him with proper practice.

[Mamut]

Ok, I leveled my DH to lvl 104 (dont wanna spoil more) and I noticed if I use anything else except Demons Bite/Chaos Strike on single target its a DPS loss. Was sure I should use Eye Beam on every CD even on single target. Dont have yet momentum so fel rush can be hit and miss depends how big is the boss hitbox and how much time I need to go back to melee.

I was testing few classes in beta and when I look in recount it looks really strange when on dumy most builds deal damage with like 10-12 abilities while my DH with like 6-8 and its so much only because meta change chaos strike name to annihilation and Im starting to use blade dance (death sweep in meta?):/

Does it get better with unlocked artifact? Or its only chaos spam build or fel rush/momentum build?

[enchiridion]

You can do it on the moragg in our training hall - you can maintain almost 100% uptime on him with proper practice.

not to be confused with momentum uptime!

[Vanyali]

not to be confused with momentum uptime!

si, melee uptime, not momentum

[Dimzum]

Ok, I leveled my DH to lvl 104 (dont wanna spoil more) and I noticed if I use anything else except Demons Bite/Chaos Strike on single target its a DPS loss. Was sure I should use Eye Beam on every CD even on single target. Dont have yet momentum so fel rush can be hit and miss depends how big is the boss hitbox and how much time I need to go back to melee.

I was testing few classes in beta and when I look in recount it looks really strange when on dumy most builds deal damage with like 10-12 abilities while my DH with like 6-8 and its so much only because meta change chaos strike name to annihilation and Im starting to use blade dance (death sweep in meta?):/

Does it get better with unlocked artifact? Or its only chaos spam build or fel rush/momentum build?

It changes a lot with 110.

Abilities you can/will add.
Felblade or Throw Glaive/Bloodlet
Fel Eruption
Fel Barrage
Rage of the Illidari (artifact)

The artifact will also give you two sources of damage from passive traits.

Also, while other classes "might" have more buttons to push, everyone got their rotations simplified.

Frost DK - Howling Blast, Obliterate, Frost Strike (Frost Scythe and Hungering Cold possibly)
Outlaw Rogue - Run Through, Sabre Slash, Pistol Shot

We're not really any worse off.

[enchiridion]

si, melee uptime, not momentum

shut up, im not an idiot!