Kerry: Air conditioners as big a threat as ISIS + New HFC regulations.

[Paranoid Android]

It was a dumb fucking statement by Kerry.

What is almost worst is people here literally taking an A/C as weapon or killing someone directly.

[Felya]

Are you saying we shouldn't be concerned about ISIS and their ever increasing propaganda and social media usage, which has lead to a surge of violence and attacks?

Which of these is propaganda and which of these is just the truth?:

ISIS - it is the way of Muslims to rise up and jihad against the west. Those who claim it's untrue are not true Muslims, but are infidels.

Fear Mongers "fighting" ISIS - it is the way of Muslims to rise up and jihad against the west. Those who claim it's untrue are cuks, SJW, regressive left, liberals, socialist, Shillary...........

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There are only 2 camps that claim Muslims are terrorists, even if they have infinite flavors. Groups like ISIS that try to recruit and groups like Trump supporters who claim to be their most aggressive opponents. It makes it very difficult for normal people, to exist between what seems to be the same rhetoric coming from both, those who want to kill us and those who claim they want to save us. It seems like they agree, terrorist attacks should be more prevalent in the future.

[Orlong]

Climate change is set to change far more lives in negative ways than a few radicals with guns, at least in the United States.

Any negatives from climate change can be overcome with modern technology

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40% of the world's population lives within 100km of the coast. I'd say the impact of global warming is pretty massive.

And they can move inland if necessary

[Tradewind]

13 pages in and people still going on about taking away your air conditioning and fridges...fuckin retarded.

[Nir]

You guys know what's even worse ?
ISIS fighter driving in a car with AC on and open windows !

[Grapemask]

I mean, we're on course to kill the planet within our own lifetimes, but dear lord no, don't fix it by harming the poor free market! NOT THE FREE MARKET!

[Masark]

Please explain to me in what twisted sense of spacetime reality you live in where you can blame an attack in 2002 on a war that didnt START until a year later.

That sentence was about ozone depletion->skin cancer.

And you still didn't explain how attacking Kerry for something dumb that his sister said makes sense.

[Waniou]

Global Warming does exist though. We call it Summer.

You... you do realise summer doesn't happen everywhere in the globe at once, right? There's a northern hemisphere, where I assume you live, and a southern hemisphere, where I live and it's not summer here right now.

These are the people who are trying to claim climate change isn't a thing. *head desk*

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Any negatives from climate change can be overcome with modern technology

Possibly. But we can also prevent much of climate change with modern technology, for much less.

And they can move inland if necessary

You do realise that this is something that would cost upwards of trillions of dollars, right?

[Garnier Fructis]

Possibly. But we can also prevent much of climate change with modern technology, for much less.

I consider unbounded optimism in human ingenuity to be a really dangerous idea. Not only is it lazy, but it justifies laziness. This is the idea that, if anything does, will kill us before we leave the Solar System.

[Xisa]

Cool. Move somewhere it's 90+ degrees in the summer for months on end, and turn off you AC indoors.

Tell me if you're more concerned about the heat or ISIS then.

[Garnier Fructis]

Cool. Move somewhere it's 90+ degrees in the summer for months on end, and turn off you AC indoors.

Tell me if you're more concerned about the heat or ISIS then.

Kerry isn't trying to take your AC. FFS.

[Xisa]

Kerry isn't trying to take your AC. FFS.

Reading comprehension is not your strong suit, I take it.

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[Garnier Fructis]

Reading comprehension is not your strong suit, I take it.

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I may or may not be an idiot.

[Damajin]

I'll be building a home that is Earth Bermed and with the foundation set below the frost line to get that nice and stable internal temperature year round that requires no A/C to cool to and a minimal wood stove or rocket mass heater to heat in colder months. Cost will be more upfront but the savings over time will be immense.

If this guy was really concerned about this shit and not just the giant self promoting toolshed that he is he'd be for more homes built in that style rather than the typical board and drywall throwup suburbs that we keep seeing built everywhere. Often these Bermed homes which are built with a combination of ancient techniques and modern materials are built in spite of current codes, not in conjunction with them. Furthermore it's actually somewhat difficult to get appropriate financing for these projects due to them being nonstandard housing, so if this is so crucial then get the lead out and start pushing for standardized building codes that help support these technologies and building designs and also create the regs that help these projects get financed more readily.

[Jimmy Woods]

Not going to read all 13 pages, but pretty sure the heat wave this summer will kill more Americans this year than ISIS in America and ISIS has had a pretty good year as far as deaths go. So.........
Of course how many died per year back in say 1960 compared to 2016 and what can be attributed to climate change is hard to tell. Either way heat kills more people than ISIS. More heat = more dead people. Therefore Kerry is right. CHECK and MATE

Edit: Looks like deaths attributed to heat has gone up in recent years. Kinda like how the global temperature has gone up too. HMMMM

[Cthulhu 2020]

Cool. Move somewhere it's 90+ degrees in the summer for months on end, and turn off you AC indoors.

Tell me if you're more concerned about the heat or ISIS then.

That's part of Kerry's point, the fact that we're needing AC so much more.

[Orlong]

I'm sure that won't cause any issues whatsoever with the populations that already exist in those spaces.

There are many states where we have millions of square miles of uninhabited land (Wyoming, Montana, Alaska, etc)

[I Push Buttons]

There are many states where we have millions of square miles of uninhabited land (Wyoming, Montana, Alaska, etc)

Yes we should just move the entire population to the frozen tundra or on top of a super massive volcano.

[falagar112]

I'm all for reducing air pollution due to all the bad drawbacks it has on health..

.. but climate warming has to be the biggest hoax in history and the whole human race is falling for it. There is climate warming, sure, but just the simple assumption that we, humanity, is responsible for it, it's a joke. And our governments are using it to let you pay carbon tax and a million other "save the planet" regulations. It's just another way to make money for them.

PS. With a little reading up, you will notice the whole solar system is warming up. Because.. sun activity reaching a peak. Same shit that causes ice ages and all the other heavy temperature fluctuations in history. Which, through carbon dating ice drills and whatnot, they can prove.

Not saying it's not bad, pollution is bad for our health. But the actual heating up of the earth.. we could from today on, put ZERO carbon/methane in the atmosphere, and earth would still warm up. It is just something that we, as a human race, gotta deal with. From what little knowledge i have from astronomy, it's not like this is a never ending cycle up, eventually it cools down again - all the way into a new ice age.

Any astronomer on this forum can confirm what i just said, mars has gained a few celsius, jupiter gained like 40c if i remember correctly, if anything, our atmosphere has protected us from the worst of it

[TwoNineMarine]

I'm just waiting for my AC to get a hold of my rifle.

Shit will get real then.