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    as i've said before, get mad.

    apparently my state actually IS a battleground state, so every vote helps a small amount. i've got three people i can take to the polls with me, that's 4 trump votes. it's not much, but at least i can say i tried and got others to try as well.
    That's what you are supposed to do. And I, and many others, will be bringing people to vote for Hillary. President Hillary for the win But we won't be mad, we'll be glad!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matchles View Post
    What is the issue with it being a sanctuary city? Philadelphia's population is less than 10% Hispanic and less than .5% Mexican. If it is getting worse because of its status as a sanctuary city, must be our neighbors to the north ruining it.
    I didn't mention race but in this article it discusses how the city itself is in danger of losing millions of federal money due to complications about being a sanctuary city. Losing millions in federal money hurts the city greatly. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...atus-but-just/

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    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    as i've said before, get mad.

    apparently my state actually IS a battleground state, so every vote helps a small amount. i've got three people i can take to the polls with me, that's 4 trump votes. it's not much, but at least i can say i tried and got others to try as well.
    I'm not mad. I'm amused.

    Have a party, friend.

    Spoiler alert: Hillary is winning over a lot of center-right people who detest Trump with the military people the DNC trotted out today. The Conservasphere is going nuts, particularly over Khan and Allen's speeches.

    I just want to state for the record, I predicted exactly this like 54 months ago, in this very forum. I said Hillary will mostly need moderates and conservatives in swing states who vastly outnumber disgruntled Sanderista liberals in those places. It doesn't matter if Sanderistas stay home in California. However what matters more, the one Sanderista in Florida or the six moderates or four anti-Trump Republicans? She should appeal to the largest voter pool to win.

    That isn't liberal Democrats. That's moderates. Because the point is to win, not make a statement of principle.

    And now you're seeing that come true. I hope you choke on that truth. You'll learn something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobotripin View Post
    Only around 4% of refugees have found jobs in germany and they let in a lot more than 65,000. What is clinton going to do once the refugees get here? Who's supporting them? I sure as hell don't want my money supporting people who aren't supporting themselves.
    Yeah I'm really going to believe trash statistics you got from breitbart of wherever. It'll be just like all the other trash the Trumpists put forward.
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    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
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    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matchles View Post
    What is the issue with it being a sanctuary city? Philadelphia's population is less than 10% Hispanic and less than .5% Mexican. If it is getting worse because of its status as a sanctuary city, must be our neighbors to the north ruining it.
    Because it doesn't respect the supremacy clause. Sanctuary cities are nonsense. Once the case being pursued in san francisco makes it to the supreme court sanctuary cities will be overruled. So enjoy it while it lasts if you like this type of crap or thing it's legal.
    Last edited by Barnabas; 2016-07-29 at 04:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    Yeah I'm really going to believe trash statistics you got from breitbart of wherever. It'll be just like all the other trash the Trumpists put forward.
    You can read all about it from a german site if you'd like? http://www.zeit.de/2015/47/integrati...erausforderung Sorry its not from the clintion biased networks of CNN or MSNBC for your liking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobotripin View Post
    I didn't mention race but in this article it discusses how the city itself is in danger of losing millions of federal money due to complications about being a sanctuary city. Losing millions in federal money hurts the city greatly. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...atus-but-just/
    No bill has passed and despite the DOJ warning no funds have been pulled. Sanctuary city status has had zero effect on the federal funds received so far.

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    Spoiler alert: Hillary is winning over a lot of center-right people who detest Trump with the military people the DNC trotted out today. The Conservasphere is going nuts, particularly over Khan and Allen's speeches.

    I just want to state for the record, I predicted exactly this like 54 months ago, in this very forum. I said Hillary will mostly need moderates and conservatives in swing states who vastly outnumber disgruntled Sanderista liberals in those places. It doesn't matter if Sanderistas stay home in California. However what matters more, the one Sanderista in Florida or the six moderates or four anti-Trump Republicans? She should appeal to the largest voter pool to win.

    That isn't liberal Democrats. That's moderates.

    And now you're seeing that come true. I hope you choke on it.
    I hope you are right. And this is also why I could never be a serious candidate anywhere. Way too liberal for the rest of the country (but I think I would fit in perfectly well in Europe or Canada).

    But I do have my practical side to me. I am ecstatic that Hillary moved as far to the left as she did with a lot of her domestic policy positions. I can't imagine that many Sanders supporters will not be fully supporting her by the time November rolls around. And I hope you are correct that she did enough to attract moderates to vote for her.

    Since you do a better job of promoting Hillary than I could ever do... I encourage you to post as much as you can (and I'll post less so as not to step on your message!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barnabas View Post
    Because it doesn't respect the supremacy clause. Sanctuary cities are nonsense. Once the case being pursued in san francisco makes it to the supreme court sanctuary cities will be overruled. So enjoy it while it lasts if you like this type of crap or thing it's legal.
    Same with legalization of pot, medicinal or otherwise. Good luck getting standing to bring a case on sanctuary cities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matchles View Post
    Same with legalization of pot, medicinal or otherwise. Good luck getting standing to bring a case on sanctuary cities.
    It's already happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobotripin View Post
    You can read all about it from a german site if you'd like? http://www.zeit.de/2015/47/integrati...erausforderung Sorry its not from the clintion biased networks of CNN or MSNBC for your liking.
    Sorry I don't read German.
    Quote Originally Posted by Redtower View Post
    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
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    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    Sorry I don't read German.
    Well from director of economics in munich, 2/3 of the migrants can't read and only 2% are ready to even get a job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobotripin View Post
    Well from director of economics in munich, 2/3 of the migrants can't read and only 2% are ready to even get a job.
    Yes and I'm going to take your word for it because Trumpists are such an honest and non-biased folk.
    Quote Originally Posted by Redtower View Post
    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
    Quote Originally Posted by Hooked View Post
    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barnabas View Post
    It's already happening.
    You can file a case. Doesn't mean the court won't throw it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    I'm not mad. I'm amused.

    Have a party, friend.

    Spoiler alert: Hillary is winning over a lot of center-right people who detest Trump with the military people the DNC trotted out today. The Conservasphere is going nuts, particularly over Khan and Allen's speeches.

    I just want to state for the record, I predicted exactly this like 54 months ago, in this very forum. I said Hillary will mostly need moderates and conservatives in swing states who vastly outnumber disgruntled Sanderista liberals in those places. It doesn't matter if Sanderistas stay home in California. However what matters more, the one Sanderista in Florida or the six moderates or four anti-Trump Republicans? She should appeal to the largest voter pool to win.

    That isn't liberal Democrats. That's moderates. Because the point is to win, not make a statement of principle.

    And now you're seeing that come true. I hope you choke on that truth. You'll learn something.
    Not to mention, she doesn't need to win far lefties - by the time November rolls around, Trump is going to be so awful and terrifying that most of us will be pulling the lever for her anyway, even if we plan to turn right around and oppose virtually everything she does. Very few liberals in swing states are going to walk into the booth and tell themselves "yeah, my conscience is fine with Trump winning because my I'd rather vote for the vanity Green party than for Hillary".
    "In today’s America, conservatives who actually want to conserve are as rare as liberals who actually want to liberate. The once-significant language of an earlier era has had the meaning sucked right out of it, the better to serve as camouflage for a kleptocratic feeding frenzy in which both establishment parties participate with equal abandon" (Taking a break from the criminal, incompetent liars at the NSA, to bring you the above political observation, from The Archdruid Report.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobotripin View Post
    Well from director of economics in munich, 2/3 of the migrants can't read and only 2% are ready to even get a job.
    As a Trump supporter, are you sure quoting a German official badmouthing foreigners and blaming the country's problems on them was a great place to start? Surely there are some French, or UK, or other less...um...fuck it, there's no delicate way to say it. Something less inflammatory to the whole "Trump is a Nazi" discussion? I mean, there's gotta be at least one Allied source you could find.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    Sorry I don't read German.
    Google chrome will most likely be able to translate the page for you...so no excuses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    As a Trump supporter, are you sure quoting a German official badmouthing foreigners and blaming the country's problems on them was a great place to start? Surely there are some French, or UK, or other less...um...fuck it, there's no delicate way to say it. Something less inflammatory to the whole "Trump is a Nazi" discussion? I mean, there's gotta be at least one Allied source you could find.
    Would it have been better from a Russian? LUL. Cmon guys get past the 1940's nazi meme. The Eu is literally getting carried by Germany and Great Britian and one of those is leaving it.

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    I'm impressed. She had much more fire tonight compared to other times I've heard her speaking. She needs to keep this up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    Actually the real reason is the big banks won't work with him. Well Deutsche Bank does but none of the others do (and by all accounts DB is FUBAR and close to failing). Trump has just stiffed too many people in the financial sector and made too many promises he has later reneged on which have then cost them buckets of money. They don't trust him. Its kinda ironic really. The crooks of wall street hate crooks who stiff them.
    So, what you are saying, is that there are a lot of reasons?

    The way I like to put it... Even his colleagues don't want to have him in their football league. He is the kid who gets pissed off that no one picks him to play ball (NFL). So, he starts his own ball game (USFL). Then, at the moment when his new friends least expect it (his main competition in USFL was dying from cancer), he shit on them and runs to the principle at school (lawsuit). The principle shakes his finger at his old friends (Trump won the case against NFL's monopoly) and then gives Trump a lollipop (he was rewarded 3 dollars), while telling him to stop being a brat (the jury states that it was an obvious and conniving attempt at getting an NFL team). His new friends never played a game (it nailed the coffin shut for USFL).

    But, I like sports...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ringpriest View Post
    Not to mention, she doesn't need to win far lefties - by the time November rolls around, Trump is going to be so awful and terrifying that most of us will be pulling the lever for her anyway, even if we plan to turn right around and oppose virtually everything she does. Very few liberals in swing states are going to walk into the booth and tell themselves "yeah, my conscience is fine with Trump winning because my I'd rather vote for the vanity Green party than for Hillary".
    His joke about Russia hacking the US might have convinced me to vote Clinton. I made my choice on Trump 20 years ago, but I don't want to do a lesser of two evils vote. Although, WA is going blue, I'll most likely still write in Spider Jerusalem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sett View Post
    I'm impressed. She had much more fire tonight compared to other times I've heard her speaking. She needs to keep this up.
    TBH, it seemed too much anti-Trump to me. She needs to focus on Hillary and what Hillary is going to do for our country. Not place herself as the anti-Trump candidate. Tell us why we should vote for her. Billing yourself as anti-Trump doesn't win her any votes, IMO.

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