China prepares for ‘sudden, cruel & short’ modern war

[Stormspellz]

The same United States that can't even hold Afghanistan and Iraq?

Those aren't straight up modern warfare, conquering Iraq wasn't even a speed bump, rebuilding and inserting our ideals in there culture on the other hand.

[Gaexion Ramza Beoulve]

Don't mess with vietnam...please learn from our mistakes. Shortbrowns have no problem killing palefaces-be they chinese/japanese/amerikano.

If china starts a war with southeast asia the only thing that will happen is it will unite the 4 Tigers, and centralize their drug cartels.

They're bad dudes, just strike from the shadows like everyone else has been doing for the past century.

[Rasulis]

Don't mess with vietnam...please learn from our mistakes. Shortbrowns have no problem killing palefaces-be they chinese/japanese/amerikano.

If china starts a war with southeast asia the only thing that will happen is it will unite the 4 Tigers, and centralize their drug cartels.

They're bad dudes, just strike from the shadows like everyone else has been doing for the past century.

We are not talking about China invading Vietnam and starting a land based war. That would be sheer foolishness.

We are talking about South China Sea. Without the U.S., Japan and India, Vietnam really does not have any way to control China’s military activities in South China Sea.

[ringpriest]

The United States would have no problem destroying the Chinese Airforce and Navy

There's nothing like the smell of foolish overconfidence in the morning! Or is it jingoism? It's so hard to tell the difference until thing are actually burning..."Navy's Harpoon Missile Misses Target During Test Fire" (July 21, 2016)

"The Navy's venerable Harpoon anti-ship missile certainly looked majestic as it fired from the USS Coronado. But the missile crashed into the sea shortly afterward, resulting in a failed launch at the RIMPAC 2016 multinational exercises."

Perhaps if the US asks nicely, the Chinese will refrain form starting a war until the US finishes selecting, buying, and operationally deploying a new, high-tech, functional, anti-ship missile? (It's probably won't take much more than a decade - surely the PLAN will be content to twiddle its thumbs and train for that long.)

[Kellhound]

There's nothing like the smell of foolish overconfidence in the morning! Or is it jingoism? It's so hard to tell the difference until thing are actually burning..."Navy's Harpoon Missile Misses Target During Test Fire" (July 21, 2016)

"The Navy's venerable Harpoon anti-ship missile certainly looked majestic as it fired from the USS Coronado. But the missile crashed into the sea shortly afterward, resulting in a failed launch at the RIMPAC 2016 multinational exercises."

Perhaps if the US asks nicely, the Chinese will refrain form starting a war until the US finishes selecting, buying, and operationally deploying a new, high-tech, functional, anti-ship missile? (It's probably won't take much more than a decade - surely the PLAN will be content to twiddle its thumbs and train for that long.)

Block 1C is obsolete, and if the Navy followed normal protocol, the missile used was one of the oldest ones in inventory.

Plus, the USN showed earlier this year it already has a MACH 3.5+ missile capable of sinking a 3000 ton warship with one hit.

[IIamaKing]

Holy misleading click bait title TC.

Many nations do war games, often.

[tylenol]

There's nothing like the smell of foolish overconfidence in the morning! Or is it jingoism? It's so hard to tell the difference until thing are actually burning..."Navy's Harpoon Missile Misses Target During Test Fire" (July 21, 2016)

"The Navy's venerable Harpoon anti-ship missile certainly looked majestic as it fired from the USS Coronado. But the missile crashed into the sea shortly afterward, resulting in a failed launch at the RIMPAC 2016 multinational exercises."

Perhaps if the US asks nicely, the Chinese will refrain form starting a war until the US finishes selecting, buying, and operationally deploying a new, high-tech, functional, anti-ship missile? (It's probably won't take much more than a decade - surely the PLAN will be content to twiddle its thumbs and train for that long.)

China is a regional power at best so I'm going to assume they will refrain from starting a war with anyone that is noteworthy, France and the UK rank higher then they do in terms of military power, how many countries will really help them? a handful of insignificant countries and Russia possibly? I don't think Putin is that stupid honestly because he is aware of MAD but who knows

Now ask yourself the same question but for the US...an endless list of countries fighting an actual country for a good reason this time and not fighting randoms in a desert who hide among civilians for very questionable reasons, that is a recipe for no more China

[Tempguy]

Super Aircraft Carrier >>>>Anything else the world has at the moment.

Unless you wanna go nuclear, and yeah, we got that too.

[Deleted]

Our naval and air forces would decimate their entire fleet in a matter of hours.

not really.

the US has one, maybe two aircraft carriers + their support fleets within "a matter of hours" of china. that's a formidable force but i'm sure it's not overwhelming force to the chinese forces.

Now ofcourse if tensions rose the US can sent more forces there in anticipation of a conflict, but they really can't sent more then 3 carrier groups due to obligations elsewhere.

Logistics also wouldn't be on the US side, and china would most likely get first strike advantages. Sure chinas stuff is older not knife to a gunfight older.

heck just the mobilization required on the US part to sent more carrier groups there would probably cause another economic crisis, especially if they had to pull carriers out of their standard maintenance shifts.

[Tommi]

Our naval and air forces would decimate their entire fleet in a matter of hours.

Really? They might end up targeting their own ships with US record of friendly fire XD

[Purpleisbetter]

To underestimate US forces is the absolute wisest thing to do.

People here or on youtube or whatever confuses war with Starcraft or Risiko and totally miss what makes the US a suicide to challenge.

[Macaquerie]

The same United States that can't even hold Afghanistan and Iraq?

I do think there is some obsession among certain posters (not to mention policy makers) to find a conflict where the US military could really take the gloves off and show its full power unhindered by any political considerations. This hasn't really been possible in Iraq and Afghanistan because the optics are just terrible - the general inability of our foes to fight back directly means that any concerted attack on our part just looks like mass terror bombing of civilians. However, if we could somehow lure China or Russia into an ill-advised conflict, then the thinking goes that the power imbalance would be large enough to ensure a rapid US victory, but small enough to allow us to deploy our full military might without having to feel guilty about it.

[Belize]

The same United States that can't even hold Afghanistan and Iraq?

Boats can't hide amongst civilians, nor can they hide in mountain caves.

Comparing apples to screwdrivers here bud.

[Deleted]

To underestimate US forces is the absolute wisest thing to do.

People here or on youtube or whatever confuses war with Starcraft or Risiko and totally miss what makes the US a suicide to challenge.

depends on the objectives of the conflict. you don't always have to win militarily to come out ahead.

china can lose ships left and right and still gain more territory after an armistice is signed when the conflict becomes to expensive/unpopular in the west.

if they manage to sink a carrier it's probably instant peace offerings from the US, they can't take those kind of losses. if they don't it's a bit more up to grabs what happens but chances are china can entrench themselves on some landgrabs early on and not let those go.

[Purpleisbetter]

The fact, no matter what happens, the US fights over your soil not theirs.

Plus, US basically pulled a net around the biggest antagonists...if China goes into war, you can rest assured most of Asia will join the carnage. All the SEA, India,Japan rest of the Nato...and with the right incentives, some guys at Kremlin might be extremely tempted to take a seat and enjoy the feast...

Besides, is it wise for a country that lives on exporting goodies to actually war against those who massively buy the stuff they produce?

Sounds like the usual saber rattling...none of the major countries actually would actually give a f*k about what happens over that sea.

There's so much to loose, nothing to gain.

[chrisfover87]

The United States would have no problem destroying the Chinese Airforce and Navy

I dont think US government could actually afford it.

[Deleted]

All the SEA, India,Japan rest of the Nato...

LOL, Europe won't move a finger, much less Turkey.

[Testaxc]

I dont think US government could actually afford it.

That's because our Navy and Air Force already dwarfs any other nations lol.

[Kellhound]

not really.

the US has one, maybe two aircraft carriers + their support fleets within "a matter of hours" of china. that's a formidable force but i'm sure it's not overwhelming force to the chinese forces.

Now ofcourse if tensions rose the US can sent more forces there in anticipation of a conflict, but they really can't sent more then 3 carrier groups due to obligations elsewhere.

Logistics also wouldn't be on the US side, and china would most likely get first strike advantages. Sure chinas stuff is older not knife to a gunfight older.

heck just the mobilization required on the US part to sent more carrier groups there would probably cause another economic crisis, especially if they had to pull carriers out of their standard maintenance shifts.

That all depends on where the fight took place, China's advantage drops off fast as you move away from Hainan.

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I dont think US government could actually afford it.

Neither can China, but then again China cant afford to back down, and neither can the US.

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LOL, Europe won't move a finger, much less Turkey.

Europe generally has little naval power, they would be of little help.

[vastx]

The same United States that can't even hold Afghanistan and Iraq?

Yes the very same United States with the highly restrictive ROEs.