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  1. #141
    Quote Originally Posted by woozie21 View Post
    I am guessing what some people in this tread are trying to say. If you care so much about your fellow human beings then why in gods name do you need 3 houses?
    Spend the money in charity to help people in need.
    A guy with speeches like he has should not be owning 3 houses, he should be giving a good example to the rest of us.
    Are you sure you understand the differences between taxation and budgeting and charity?

    You can't budget based on wishful thinking. Nor can you borrow, nor can you set an interest rate and so on. Nor can you actually organize a national program of something covering millions of people with all the requisite infrastructure to optimize reach based on wishful thinking and goodwill.

    Also Sanders was running for Public Office, not for Sainthood.

  2. #142
    Why is this a thread? Are you guys really that jealous?

    An old guy works and saves money. He's allowed to buy a home. We aren't in a communist nation.

    He can buy a home and give money to charities and help people at the same fucking time.
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    liberalism is a right wing idealogy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woozie21 View Post
    I am guessing what some people in this tread are trying to say. If you care so much about your fellow human beings then why in gods name do you need 3 houses?
    Spend the money in charity to help people in need.
    A guy with speeches like he has should not be owning 3 houses, he should be giving a good example to the rest of us.
    He was talking about paying more taxes to help the poor, not about helping them from your wallet...

    Quote Originally Posted by Xires View Post
    This is how the left works. They want someone ELSE to pay for your shit as long as it isn't them.
    Bernie paid for this house himself...



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    I can't explain it because I'm an idiot, and I have to live with that post for the rest of my life. Better to just smile and back away slowly. Ignore it so that it can go away.
    Thanks for the avatar goes to Carbot Animations and Sy.

  4. #144
    Quote Originally Posted by May90 View Post
    Is it different in other countries? It is much more convenient to try to destroy your opponent's public image, than to actually make a constructive argument in support of oneself.

    Well, it is different in Japan... But then, that country is something special.
    In other countries from what i've seen either they kill each other, or sit in a big room and argue like morons not doing anything. Its to the point where I honestly believe more people from the UK know about American politics than UK politics. UK politics are so over complicated its crazy. Northern Ireland (my country) has a 50% voter turn out for elections. And its dropping each year. Half of people do not give a fuck, or are too uninformed to give a fuck here.

    UK politicians are the most unrelatable, unlikeable people on the planet. They have managed to make politics so boring, that a lot of the country doesn't even vote. Then you get someone like Nigel Farage, who shows up, makes a scene and we get biggest voter turn out ever in the UK.

    USA politicians on the other hand, do the opposite. Your politics are about spectacle. People tune in for the show, not to be informed. Its like a 4 year wrestling match.
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  5. #145
    Quote Originally Posted by Grosbill View Post
    wtf is a "REAL JOB"?

    There are fake jobs?
    His first real job was at age 42 or thereabouts. Before that, he lived off unemployment and welfare mostly.

  6. #146
    It is possible to be pro socialism and somewhat wealthy without being having to be labeled as a hypocrite. So long as he is obeying any of the laws he helps to legislate there is no issue. Socialism only tries to more evenly distribute wealth, not do away with the idea of there being wealthy people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    Sorry, but we already have safety nets here.


    But if the majority wants free healthcare.. well, tough shit on ya, thats how democracy is supposed to work.
    Or you know.. vote Trump, get rid of Obamacare maybe? And illegals draining taxpayers money and taking jobs.

  8. #148
    Quote Originally Posted by Cherise View Post
    Or you know.. vote Trump, get rid of Obamacare maybe? And illegals draining taxpayers money and taking jobs.
    You mean the illegal immigrants who paid $12 billion in federal, state and local taxes last year, and over $100 billion in Social Security taxes alone over the last 10 years, and because they are illegal immigrants, very rarely benefit from those taxes?
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    We all know he bought that house with the money the Clintons gave him for giving up and endorsing Shillary.




    Am I doing this correctly?

  10. #150
    OK, can anyone just answer the simple question of why it's wrong for him to buy a house?
    The wise wolf who's pride is her wisdom isn't so sharp as drunk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Etrayu View Post
    USA politicians on the other hand, do the opposite. Your politics are about spectacle. People tune in for the show, not to be informed. Its like a 4 year wrestling match.
    Polar opposite of my country, sounds like they got the shit end of the stick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kail View Post
    OK, can anyone just answer the simple question of why it's wrong for him to buy a house?
    Crazy American Politics, thats why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherise View Post
    Or you know.. vote Trump, get rid of Obamacare maybe? And illegals draining taxpayers money and taking jobs.
    Still not 'murican, sorry.

    I always find it entertaining how much some American politicians are hated here, but Trump is something special. He out-crazies everybody else in it, Cruz is also bad, and so is Clinton.. but damn, Trump is going for the world record!

    Just makes me happy we don't got a circus show here, no huge campaigns, no shitty speeches, no day-long conventions that get broadcast and whip everybody in a frenzy, not attacking each other's characters.

  12. #152
    Not bad for having almost no marketable skills.

    I dislike Bernie for a multitude of reasons, but I'm not sure what this is supposed to accomplish. He was elected to office and is using his salary to purchase a home, obviously his constituents are satisfied with his performance, or he wouldn't be re-elected.

  13. #153
    Quote Originally Posted by VileGenesis View Post
    Socialism isnt about there not being any rich people, or blocking capitalism, it's about those who have the means pay abit more to help those in need, be it medical or financial...


    Socialism is literally the nicest thing out there as far as treating other people as fellow human beings at least :P
    The biggest bullshit i have read in my entire life.


    Forcing ppl to pay for others is not nice.

  14. #154
    Quote Originally Posted by zEmini View Post
    Manufactured outrage ... coming from the right.

    600k is pretty modest now days ... especially for a vacation home and more importantly for someone like him.
    and more importantly for someone like him
    What is that supposed to mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nehezbegar View Post
    The biggest bullshit i have read in my entire life.


    Forcing ppl to pay for others is not nice.
    and always at the barrel of a gun.

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    1> Socialism doesn't say a darned thing about whether or not people can buy multiple homes. It isn't an economic system where there's no variations of wealth or differences in social class. That's an advanced form of communism, specifically.

    2> $600k is not the bank-busting price for a home that you apparently think. My parents are looking at moving to the outskirts of Ottawa, and a standard 3-bedroom bungalow in those satellite cities' suburbs run $400-700k. I'd imagine Bernie makes more than my parents do. And we're Canadians, so we're as "socialist" as Bernie, really. If they were looking at buying a "cottage" in an in-demand summer vacation area, that price could easily jump up over $900k for a similar house. And we're not talking about cities like Toronto, where a tiny little run-down hovel usually costs over a mill.


  16. #156
    Quote Originally Posted by Gorgodeus View Post
    You mean the illegal immigrants who paid $12 billion in federal, state and local taxes last year, and over $100 billion in Social Security taxes alone over the last 10 years, and because they are illegal immigrants, very rarely benefit from those taxes?
    source?

    It's hard to pay taxes if you're paid under the table (employers know its illegal to hire..well..illegals) and don't have a SS #.

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    This thread, and all the memes I've been seeing on facebook, is just evidence of how limited people's understanding of socialism is.

  18. #158
    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    $600K for a home on Lake Champlain? Man isn't into socialism all that much.





    http://www.sevendaysvt.com/OffMessag...-in-north-hero




    Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is the proud new owner of a summer home in the Champlain Islands, Seven Days has confirmed.

    The Burlington resident last week plopped down nearly $600,000 on a lakefront camp in North Hero.

    Sanders’ new crib has four bedrooms and 500 feet of Lake Champlain beachfront on the east side of the island — facing Vermont, not New York. The Bern will keep his home in Burlington and use the new camp seasonally.

    “We’ve traveled up to the islands many times over the years — almost always on day trips,” Sanders’ wife, Jane O’Meara Sanders, told Seven Days in a written statement. “We’ve been impressed with the North Hero community, eaten at the North Hero House and Shore Acres and have suggested them to friends who were looking for a beautiful place to stay or have dinner. St. Anne’s Shrine in Isle La Motte is my favorite church and it is nearby.”

    Last Tuesday, the day of the closing, a relaxed-looking Bernie Sanders posed for a photo at Hero’s Welcome General Store on Route 2. The store, a bit south of his new abode, serves a sandwich called “Feel the Bun” in the senator’s honor. The $6.99 deli delight consists of a “HUGE” homemade roll, sliced turkey, fresh apple chutney, hot pepper relish, lettuce, tomato and provolone cheese.

    “It’s not fair that the Billionaire Class controls 99 percent of the bread,” the menu description reads. “Here’s a sandwich for the rest of us … to keep us nourished until everything cool is free!”

    Sanders ordered the sandwich during his visit last week. Hero’s Welcome owner, Robert Camp, told Seven Days*the store once offered a Sanders sandwich that poked fun at the senator, but later pulled it. The new version captures the essence of his rise to national prominence, Camp said.

    The popular general store has a line of chairs out front — one side labeled “Republicans,” the other “Democrats.” In the middle, until recently, sat a lone “Sandernistas” chair, Camp said. That chair will be back — as long as the new neighbor doesn’t mind, Camp joked.

    “He’s just been great,” said Camp. “This is going to be his home, so we won’t encourage autographs.”

    The small Grand Isle County town has been abuzz for the last several days with the news. O’Meara Sanders said: “The entire family is very excited about it.”
    It doesn't look like he took money from anyone else to pay for this home, he did it on his own time, on his own dime. I'm not really seeing a problem here. You don't HAVE to be rich to advocate for business owners, and you don't HAVE to be poor to advocate for the lower class. People need to calm their fucking tits for once.

  19. #159
    Quote Originally Posted by Quetzl View Post
    This thread, and all the memes I've been seeing on facebook, is just evidence of how limited people's understanding of socialism is.
    Well, the issue doesn't have to do anything with the merits or pitfalls of socialism. I'm libertarian and dislike almost every position that Bernie takes, but I won't fault the man for buying a house. As long as the money he has acquired is done legally, I don't see what the issue is.

  20. #160
    I am completely certain my house is worth more than Sanders' home... and it's larger. That's a fairly modest home he bought actually. Sanders just has the benefit of location.

    Socialist beliefs don't mean one is against having things either.

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