Varrian a possible end boss?

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Blackhand was blown to bits, by an Iron Star, during levelling.... Yet he was endboss in... Fek, can't even remember the name of the raid, just before HFC...

you clearly saw him surive in the cinematic.

[Zaanm4n]

Well it could be possible!

We dont see him die..all we see is an explosion.

But Romire...we all saw him die

While you may saw him die, Blizz is known for pulling rabbits from their hats and keeping secerts, its possible that it could happen.

heck we even may find his sword about as well

If this happens this expac will be really disappointing for me. No matter how great content is if the story line is going to be so stale im literally going to be so cheesed off by it.

[-aiko-]

If this happens this expac will be really disappointing for me. No matter how great content is if the story line is going to be so stale im literally going to be so cheesed off by it.

No joke, if they bring back Varian in any form I am so done.

[shoooter]

He lítterally exploded. He's dead. Even the flame in Shalaymane dying was a clear symbol to the fact that Varian, is no more.

Cue opening shot of cut scene for patch 7.4: A shot of Varian's extinguished sword on the Broken Shore. Suddenly it glows to life again... green.

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Changed the fact you (Maiev) killed Illidan. Then added in the story that Demon Hunters was on X mission and showed up right after illidan was beat.

Anyone else remember some Demon Hunters showing up? I don't.

they couldve shown up just after the players left.

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He was disenchanted no way hes gonna be anything then dust

[Musta]

You seen ash? because I watched the video there was no ash.

Now there was a fel explosion but that isn't ash.

I would not be surprised if they made him a boss in a raid, You do NOT see his death. You see gul'dan putting some fel in him,him screaming and then a fel explosion. The explosion is just like the ones the adds have before you fight kilrogg.

So ya its ether A) hes dead or B) Hes a gul'dan tool now.

Blizzard just reconned the whole ending to BT and Illidian so don't rule out a Fel-Varrian boss fight.

They are not allowing anyone to test Gul'Dan so he could be part of that fight even if its Mythic Only.

I vote hes a Gul'Dan tool in someway. If he wanted him dead he would have just killed him.

Im pretty sure what my eyes saw was him being torn apart and ashes.. but hey I could be wrong it happened before

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you literally see him getting turned into dust.
you see this:

you dont see an explosion around him, you dont see gul'dan covering him in fel, its his own body that gets vaporized.
from the inside.

Im trying to explain that it cant be more graphic than that about someone turning to dust... but ppl wont listen

[I stand in fire]

Well it could be possible!

We dont see him die..all we see is an explosion.

But Romire...we all saw him die

While you may saw him die, Blizz is known for pulling rabbits from their hats and keeping secerts, its possible that it could happen.

heck we even may find his sword about as well

It's definitely possible,

Varrian is too big of a character to just kill off like that, sure his death was an epic one, but being this early in the story it feels unresolved. That explosion we saw could be a red herring for a possible return during the final tier of legion. We saw Vol'jin die and hand the Horde to Sylvanas, something we did NOT see in the Alliance cinematics, but Varrian's "death" was in both and the fact that the cinematic cuts away at the last second implies it was foreshadowing.

Is he the final boss? No, that goes to the Avatar of Sargeras, but Varrian will have an important role to play in that tier either as a corrupted raid boss fighting with the legion or an unfortunate slave of the legion that was deformed by their corruption.

Anduin is king now, and he will stay that way. During legion we will see Anduin grow as a character as the new leader of the Alliance. Potentially we will see really emotional payoff at the end.

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I don't like Varian dying was one of my fabourites. But he's dead, Vol'jin too no shananigans except maybe a spirit we talk to for a moment.

Okey admittingly Varian is a warrior and we have Valhalla...........hallo why isn't he there?!?!?

[I stand in fire]

Im pretty sure what my eyes saw was him being torn apart and ashes.. but hey I could be wrong it happened before

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Im trying to explain that it cant be more graphic than that about someone turning to dust... but ppl wont listen

Because people are looking at storytelling tropes. His death feels sudden, out of place for that important of a character to die this early in the story, and it smacks of foreshadowing. Varrian will not be the first person to be "brought back" in Warcraft and he won't be the last if makes a surprise appearance in the last tier.

[kage]

We see fel energy explode outward, WoW isn't going to show the gory details of explosions even if this were for keepsies. That said I feel they'd do more if this was all she wrote, the life leaving his eyes, flashbacks, things like that. This could all be denial on our parts, but on the other hand it would be a cool twist. One they'd have put good deal of effort in after the beloved if last minute "jailer of the damned" ending. But that might be me further hoping we'll get to see Anduin and the New Lich King interact or really just anything with *spoiler* person in it. A for effort if this is a twist, if not I would like more of a send off somewhere down the line. But that's just me.

[Putin-Chan]

Read the latest free comic with Anduin (it's like 3-4 pages). You'll see he wields the sword now

I'm still salty that it wasn't the fury artifact, instead it's Anduin's toothpick.

[kage]

Better than Tirion's, to be sure...

Dude in my group said and I quote "he's got a life bar he's faking" but that could have been a bug. If anyone can survive screening pain and Fel lava it's Tirion.

[HazardousMouse]

The way Varrian went out was perfect. If they bring him back it would be a bad idea and take away from such an emotional moment.

[kage]

Im pretty sure what my eyes saw was him being torn apart and ashes.. but hey I could be wrong it happened before

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Im trying to explain that it cant be more graphic than that about someone turning to dust... but ppl wont listen

By ash do you mean the cloud that explodes outward from either Varian or what's left of Varian? Cause I totally agree they couldn't have gone more graphic, this is a "family" game. However we don't see his body "loose structural integrity". I've seen a lot of animated deaths. There's the "it's just a robot we can rip it's spine out" kind, there's the "fade into sparkles kind", there the "so long as we don't show viscera we're safe" kind, there's the "blood doesn't exist in this universe" kind. There are lots of ways to do it more definitively yet they cut before showing a pile of ash or what have you. I think Blizz wants us speculating. Also this is fun! It's one part hopefulness one part genre savyness on my part.

Also Anyone else think Fel-tainted Varian sounds badass?! I'm hoping for actually still a good guy but with demon powers. *squee*

[Dald]

The way Gul'dan got all shifty eyed with concern is the odd part. It was like "Why hasn't he exploded yet?! How is he resisting?"

[kage]

The way Varrian went out was perfect. If they bring him back it would be a bad idea and take away from such an emotional moment.

Worked pretty well with the ending to Wrath of the Lich King. If he lived he's now irreparably fel-tainted and at the mercy of Gul'dan with no help coming. But you know he's Varian so he'll probably ultimately be a good guy.

[Hisholyness]

He lítterally exploded. He's dead. Even the flame in Shalaymane dying was a clear symbol to the fact that Varian, is no more.

He did explode, but he could be a fel skeleton or something. And the flame dying from Shablagoo only means that Varian was "lost to the light", becoming corrupted by Fel and now its slave.

[Zyky]

heck we even may find his sword about as well

Btw somehow Anduin has his sword after the events of the Broken Shore, see the Anduin Comic for reference.

Changed the fact you (Maiev) killed Illidan. Then added in the story that Demon Hunters was on X mission and showed up right after illidan was beat.

Anyone else remember some Demon Hunters showing up? I don't.

It was after we looted him and hearth out, we didn't see what happened to Illidan. Obviously Maiev put him in a crystal and had other Wardens to help her escort him. Demon Hunters come at this point, not "right after". There was easily 3-5 days between all this happening because she had to get a message to the other Wardens and they had to get to her.

[A Chozo]

I was ready to say "no!", but then I remembered that it's Blizzard and Illidan will be an light-knight. So, Why Not?

- Gul'dan drags his soul into a conduit
- Empowers a Metal Varian, which has his personality, twisted into a zealot of the Legion
- Hit it in the head for loot