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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomatketchup View Post
    Nope.

    Noooooooope.

    I mean get your head out of your arse, do you have any ideas of how Jews were treated back then? And that includes before WW2! "Hope is the last to die" by Halina Birenbaum, there you have a great book on how Jews were treated before being sent to the death camps. Educate yourself.
    I dunno man. The way white people are demonized nowadays makes me think that all we need is a left wing hitler-like for us to end up like them.
    I will admit though, we're not there... yet.

  2. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    Thats why you usually don´t just have left to right but also authoritarian to libertarian.
    Still authoritarian is considered right, while libertarian is considered left.

    Here a picture:
    But... that picture has both Authoritarian and Libertarian in the middle, simply on a different axis. And it puts Hitler centrally between left and right. Which is what I said.
    Authoritarian can be "considered" right, but the term isn't really accurate, like I could "consider" a basset hound to be an elephant because it has four legs and big ears. Technically that's true, but that's not how you determine whether or not something is an elephant.
    You can have Authoritarian governments that lean either right-wing or left-wing, depending on what system they choose to impose. Authoritarianism by itself isn't right or left, its something different, which is what I said and your picture supports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzudzadzo View Post
    I dunno man. The way white people are demonized nowadays makes me think that all we need is a left wing hitler-like for us to end up like them.
    I will admit though, we're not there... yet.
    Of course.
    Apart the fact that we are still the overwhelming majority in our countries and that no oppression of the sort is happening apart maybe in the head of some members of some extreme groups.

  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    This probably made a lot of sense in your head. Here is what you just wrote, without the meaningless nonsense:

    Hitler
    Hated school... similar to modern activists hating the established classes
    in his Youth... similar to modern activists are all young people
    purposely didn't lend any effort towards it... similar to modern activists are slacktivists
    later wrote to regret... similar to modern activists will later regret their actions

    Conclusion: Modern activists are literally Hitler.
    Nice try but no... The only literal Hitler was Hitler himself. Anything else is similiar at best.
    My point is some individuals on the left are becoming too similiar to him and PC culture doesnt seem least bit concerned about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzudzadzo View Post
    Nice try but no... The only literal Hitler was Hitler himself. Anything else is similiar at best.
    My point is some individuals on the left are becoming too similiar to him and PC culture doesnt seem least bit concerned about it.
    Some individuals on the left are becoming similar to Hitler...
    Ah well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master of Coins View Post
    You basically just wrote that when modern activists finally regret their earlier life choices and get a change of heart they'll turn into Hitler.

    So the opposite of modern activists = Hitler.

    Okay.
    Stop putting words in my mouth please.
    My point was they are becoming somewhat similiar.
    Checkout "Stormfront or SJW" reddit.
    If that doesnt prove Horse Shoe theory than I dont know what does.

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    I'm just going to go out on a limb here and say.. you're a Trump supporter aren't you?
    Im not even American...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzudzadzo View Post
    Stop putting words in my mouth please.
    My point was they are becoming somewhat similiar.
    Checkout "Stormfront or SJW" reddit.
    If that doesnt prove Horse Shoe theory than I dont know what does.

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    Im not even American...
    Your point? Putin likes Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djalil View Post
    Of course.
    Apart the fact that we are still the overwhelming majority in our countries and that no oppression of the sort is happening apart maybe in the head of some members of some extreme groups.
    I'll admit that its not happening acitvely and systematically... yet.

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    Your point? Putin likes Trump.
    What's yours then? You make no sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arikan View Post
    But... that picture has both Authoritarian and Libertarian in the middle, simply on a different axis. And it puts Hitler centrally between left and right. Which is what I said.
    Authoritarian can be "considered" right, but the term isn't really accurate, like I could "consider" a basset hound to be an elephant because it has four legs and big ears. Technically that's true, but that's not how you determine whether or not something is an elephant.
    You can have Authoritarian governments that lean either right-wing or left-wing, depending on what system they choose to impose. Authoritarianism by itself isn't right or left, its something different, which is what I said and your picture supports.
    Look at it like a compass where you can be Left, LeftRight, Right, RightRight, Right, RightLeft, Left, LeftLeft. We rarely use the terms authoritarian or libertarian in europe.
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    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzudzadzo View Post
    I'll admit that its not happening acitvely and systematically... yet.

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    What's yours then? You make no sense.
    sigh.. nevermind.

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    Dear Diary,

    Today Djalil learnt the hard way what the term 'liberal arts' means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    Look at it like a compass where you can be Left, LeftRight, Right, RightRight, Right, RightLeft, Left, LeftLeft. We rarely use the terms authoritarian or libertarian in europe.
    All you keep trying to do is say what I'm saying differently but still be in general agreement. I don't understand what your goal is. Looking at it like a compass, on the axes you posted Authoritarian would correspond to North, with Left being West and Right being East. You can go northwest or you can go northeast, but north by itself is north, its not east or west. Which is what I'm saying, that Authoritarianism (or Libertarianism) by itself is neither Left nor Right but can veer either way.

    To pivot, you can be on the Left. While being on the Left you can have Authoritarian or Libertarian leanings. Being on the Left does not automatically ascribe you to either. You can point in any direction, but you still need four independent directions.

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    "As the decisive event of his transformation into an anti-Semite, Hitler mentions-in 1924, to be sure, in Mein Kampf- an encounter with an Eastern Jew. The apparition in a black caftan and black hair locks merely made him wonder: Is this a Jew? was my first thought. And : Is this a German? Once again, he says, this experience caused him to read up on the subject: For a few hellers I bought the first anti-Semitic pamphlets of my life. What happened then, he continues, was what may be called a radical anti-Semite's typical obsession : Since I had begun to concern myself with this question and to take cognizance of the Jews, Vienna appeared to me in a different light than before. Wherever I went, I began to see Jews , and the more I saw, the more sharply they became distinguished in my eyes from the rest of humanity. The upshot of this dramatic development, Hitler claims, was the realization regarding Social Democracy's Jewish character: When I recognized the Jew as the leader of the Social Democracy, the scales dropped from my eyes. A long soul struggle had reached its conclusion."
    http://www.porges.net/JewsInVienna/5...ntiSemite.html

    Seems pretty clear why.
    The problem is the source. Mein Kampf is, for all intents and purposes, pure propaganda. It has so much nonsense in it that researchers basically disregard it when they want to know the real Hitler.

    I would recommend reading any biography about Hitler written in the 21st century, because writers from the 20th century still saw Hitler as "unhuman" and many biographies from that period are riddled with obvious bias. The 21st century's biographies usually provide more serious and humane insights into Hitler's life. Hitler is an exceptionally interesting person to study once you start studying him as a human being.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dzudzadzo View Post
    I dunno man. The way white people are demonized nowadays makes me think that all we need is a left wing hitler-like for us to end up like them.
    I will admit though, we're not there... yet.
    Then you should definitely read up more on how minorities have been, and are, treated. Because I can safely say that as a CIS white male I have it infinitely easier in life than my other friends, especially if they're women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomatketchup View Post
    CIS white male
    I don't know what that means.

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    Being ignorant is one thing, being convinced (or attempting to convince others) you as a white male are actually oppressed in the way that minority groups around the world have been and are currently oppressed is something else. Here's the thing: those of us who actually know our history are aware of this little trick. It's the same one that the Nazi's used to get into power.

    I'm gonna be real real with you, if you actually believe you as a cis-gendered white male are oppressed and being readied to throw into the gas chambers or anything along those lines, you are either the useful kind of stupid that would be tyrants and despots use to get into power, or you are the sort of insidious and evil person who would pretend to be stupid in order to spread such ideas to rally support for said tyrants and despots.

    If you're feeling oppressed it is because your ideology is declining, your world view and way of life simply are not sustainable and the vast majority of people on the planet actually don't agree with you because they're not ignorant and sooner or later you're just gonna have to come to terms with that and deal with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arikan View Post
    I don't know what that means.
    It means his (?) gender role aligns with his sexual organs.

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    It didn't come as any shock to me that Hitler was a liberal arts major. Hitler was a man of the left. That he is today instead associated with the right is one of the most significant deceptions of our time.

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    Did the Vienna Academy of Art teach only art or did they teach other things, if you get a degree in art today they make you take a variety of courses, algebra, history, etc

    I don't think the Vienna Academy of Art ever accepted him though.

    Today Hitler's art sells for a lot of money, but not because of the artistry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratyrel View Post
    It means his (?) gender role aligns with his sexual organs.
    ?
    Does this really need its own label and to be specified?
    "I'm a man with a penis who identifies as a man."
    So.... a man?

  20. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerfest View Post
    It didn't come as any shock to me that Hitler was a liberal arts major. Hitler was a man of the left. That he is today instead associated with the right is one of the most significant deceptions of our time.
    Seriously this. I'm surprised liberals actually believe he was right wing.

    - Created mostly government-funded jobs (especially in roads and infrastructure)
    - Public schooling with government-funded and government-enforced curriculum
    - Nationalized healthcare
    - Forcefully took money from the rich
    - Gun control
    - Government funded abortion
    - Strong police state (thanks, gun control)
    - NAZI literally stands for National Socialist Workers Party.

    "B...But DAE not real socialism?!?!" Please, tell me how that's not socialism.

    Hell, replace persecuting jews with white males and you have a modern liberal utopia.

    Bonus: Hitler was even a big fan of Muslims!
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