Originally Posted by
CaptainV
I recently played Warcraft 3 and TFT again, especially TFT which really gets to show you alot more of Sylvanas and her rise to power.
I will be honest, she is pretty damn evil and has been quite consistant with that throughout. Lets detail a few things she did in her lifetime from TFT to Now:
In the frozen throne, she is freed from Arthas control after Illidan tries to destroy Icecrown with the Eye of Sargeras, this freedom allows her to manipulate the local living populace into helping her defeat the dreadlords that command Lordaeron. She uses her banshee's to possess bandits, ogres, and murlocs into fighting for her and killing her foes. Then, she manipulated Garithos, the not-so-honorable racist human leader of the Alliance of Lordaeron's remenant into helping her defeat Balnazzar and take Lordaeron for her. After which, she forces Varimathras to break a sacred Dreadlord vow and kill his own brother, then, betrays the not-so-honorable Garithos and gives him a justly brutal ending.
She even vows then and there that she will slaughter anyone that stands in her way, being the first footsteps of her rise to power.
She intended to create the plague as early as Vanillia wow and only in Wrath because of Varimathras trechery she was somewhat foiled because he used it against her.
The plague that was used was heavily modified by putricide EDIT: Nevermind this bold part
In Cata she decides to do alot more than just kill Genn's son and turn Gilneas into a plague ridden fallout 4 wasteland. She also invades Silverpine unprovoked, kills a Kirin'tor village without any justified reason other than needing the magi on her side which sounds more like mind control than free choice.
Silverpine always has been horde territory, the one who invaded where the gilneans. Now i might be wrong about this specifically, but I believe the kirin tor have no place in being in a horde territory, also she does not mind control the forsaken
In Hillsbrad, you find that her own loyal subjects are going too far for even their own experiments to be acceptable when one of the plagued camps has most of its residents turned into scourge like abominations. She turns Hillsbrad into a swamp of death and disease especially southshore which is permanently destroyed by her plague attacks.
Thats is war. And if you are talking about the concentration camp -like quest hub that was other peoples doing. Don't try to pin on her crimes of other forsaken. And if it is that hub, Sylvanas codemns that shit and you work with her agent to destroy the concentration camp
She destroys the Alliance there and finishes off the Kirin'tor that remained at the restoration project, then adding insult to injury, she goes to WPL, where the Alliance and Argent Crusade are rebuilding the land, and destroys Andorhal a second time to prevent the Alliance ever rebuilding, and plagues several farms nearby causing the Argent Crusade to grow heavily concerned.
Andorhal was a warzone, she did not destroy it, she conquered it. Also, the farms were already plagued, though I will admit that i do not remember what happens in that questline
She even captures Koltria just because he tried to save lives by honoring a friendship he had with Thaussaurian.
Sadly, Koltiras betrayed the cause, he let his personal feelings rule his decision even when he himselfs admit that it was smarter and safer to attack as soon as the lich died. He chose to betray the forsaken by postponing their victory and costing resources and forsaken lives(?) in the process
Finally, she tried to take over Arathi by raising Danath's Nephew and fails, and is thwarted in Alterac when she tries to plague it aswell.
Again, it was war, in cata the truce had been broken, ofc she will kill enemies, you might be arguing that it was not the most honorable way to kill people, but that does not matter at all.
Her entire storyline was driven entirley by a mad desire for expansion and power at every opportunity. In the novels she tries to kill her -own- sister and turn her into an undead by peacefully convincing her to come to undercity with the plan of murdering her when she arrives. It fails mostly because Vareesa decides she loves her kids too much to go with Sylvanas, which causes her to have a hissy fit and allegedly murder most of Tristfals Wildlife.
She just hunt a lot to vent, she doesnt wipe out all of tirisfal wildlife, she has been in search of power , but since cataclysm her arc revolves around staying alive and avoind warcraft version of hell, she plainly states that she does not see her people as arrows in a quiver.
And after -all- this you wonder if shes a good guy?
Oh no, she is not a good guy at all, but she is not as bad as ppl say
Legion has been the first actual sign that Sylvanas has shown a redeeming quality. I think Sylvanas is an interesting redeemed villian if they go down that route because I want her to be like Garrosh, unappologetic and merciless but now that she understands she must lead more than just the dead, perhaps she will finally learn to have unity with the living.
She reminds me of Rick Grimes from walking dead, shes seen some serious shit, shes done some seriously bad things and questionable things. And yet despite all this, Sylvanas may be exactly -what- the Horde needs as a leader, to survive.
Someone that is willing to be an utter bitch to make the people safe. Someone that "will" use the plague without hesitation on the enemies of the Horde and raise their dead to bolster her ranks.
Someone that will intimidate her allies into serving her, in order to protect them and keep them under her banner.
Someone who "will" listen to the guidence of Baine, of Lor'themar and -consider- their proposals, enough so, to be a more accepted tyrant than Garrosh was.
As Vol'jin said it best:
"But you MUST Step outta da shadows... and lead..."
A quote that honestly gives me shivers to this day, that literally was the one thing she needed to hear, that she cant run anymore, she cant pretend she doesnt have a responsiblity to those around her, or to what shes done.
If she is really going to commit to this path, she must do it for the sake of everyone around her, not just herself, and her people.
That, is what interests me, what path will the Banshee Queen take... now that shes been -forced- to step into the light.