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My opinion is that they ALMOST have a pretty good fantasy with both specs but frost is lacking one crucial thing: Souls. Unholy is mostly about the physical aspects of death. Something that you can see affecting you. Plagues, rot, disease, and raising the corpses of the fallen to fight as mindless slaves. Frost should deal with the internal aspects of life and death. Freezing effects chilling you from the inside out and manipulating the spirits of the fallen and not the corpses. Arthas did both. He would sometimes use ghosts in his army like banshees or whatever the first two bosses of Halls of Reflections were. He ripped out the souls of his enemies and locked them inside of Frostmourne. I feel like this aspect of the death knight class has been completely forgotten somehow. I suppose they don't want the two specs to feel similar but you don't have to make the souls fight for you like a ghoul does for unholy... just something else. I'm not a game designer but I'm sure I could come up with some good ideas that would still be different enough from other specs.
First random BG I tried, it felt like garbage. Then, I gave it another shot, and... it was fucking beastly. If you have competent healers, Frost can dish out a LOT of AoE damage, AND single target pressure at the same time. Solo BG queue, probably better as Blood, unless you feel lucky or have 2+ healers on your team. Only PITA is Razorice not working in PVP instances.
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Just give it a bit man.
Frost is in a good position to get decently balanced for the first time in a long time - they don't have the 2H v. DW excuse anymore, so I'd just say wait.
Also, it's seriously not that big of a deal if you're not the most cutting-edge raider, and if you are, then you would probably be playing Unholy anyway since it typically is the stronger spec.
But just give them some time, that first tuning could at least show us that they're ready to give Frost a good showing.
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Rerolled DK for this expansion. Wanted Frost cause of theme / artifact. Horrible state that spec... At 110 rerolled again.
isnt frost fantasy to be undertuned?
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Frost is a glass cannon in PvP, except it lacks the mobility of DH or sheer retarded design of rogues to be useful. I feel like it'll see some play due to sheer burst potential with a good healer + another super bursty class by it's side, but it's too slow / too glassy to be fun in BGs or 2v2. It does need buffs though. Wraith Walk needs to be a 25-35s cooldown and make you immune to CC, and frost fever slowing should come back in some way to bring frost DK on par with other classes in utility.
Even with that, I feel like unholy is just better in every way. It has less frequent burst but it's not a full rot spec like it was in the past, it can do some very brutal damage if played right. AND it's not boring as sin to play. It's p. mediocre in PvE (Not BAD, but just middle of the pack) so I hope it gets buffed, though at this point I think we're all used to blizz overbuffing mages and nerfing DKs when the former are in top 5 and the latter are BARELY in top 10.
Just play unholy then and shut up.
I am always first in damage at bosses and trash as frost. I never had an instance where I had better gear than my party as well.
In bgs im first, if not, then second in damage done and third-fourth on healing done. But please dont degrade bgs into a damage contest. There are objectives and teamplay going on.
Even in 1v1 pvp situations (this is not a thing, however many idiots like you care for it much), we shine and we have really really awesome damage, burst and defensive cds. We also have the most hp than any class / spec i think.
Now if you are talking about the sims, the raids to come and whatnot, please go away. This is only speculating.
I am 100% happy with my toons performance (both strengths and weaknesses). Its only l2p issue from most of you.
And something else. I had so much "free time" off wow and I read ALL threads regarding frost dks. Every single time I read I always decided to reroll according to the posts... I finally played again and pproved it (again) to myself hoe much you suck.