First presidential debate - September 26: Trump vs Hillary

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And you prove my comment of being a Hypocrite all in the same sentence! Thanks again! You're very easy. ^_^

I think you don't understand what a hypocrite. I have no real emotional investment in this discourse, He or she won't be my president. But the fact remains Hillary is probably one of, if not the most crooked person in American politics aside from George Bush.

She's a horrible woman who has abused everything she can to get into power.

I mean honestly, Look at this.

[cubby]

Last I checked, nobody could have died from Trump's fuckups compared to Hillary's.

... you didn't actually read many of the emails did you?

You didn't really pay attention to anything that disagreed with your internal narrative, did you? Name five separate things Hillary has done that you find more deplorable than anything Trump has done.

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Isn't it? I'd say that video is beautiful if it wasn't so absolutely HORRIFIC to hear all 176 unbelievably morally deplorable horrible things Donald Dump has done since the Primary! >_<

Many of them were things like "Said Obama was a traitor"

How is that a morally deplorable thing? It's an opinion, a Hyperbolic opinion, but an opinion none the less.

[Deletedaccount1]

Trump is more of a criminal than Hillary if you look even a tiny bit into his history.

He's been found guilty in 38 civil cases against him and settled in over a hundred, basically meaning he lost and chose not to fight it. Trump U is just one in a long line of Trump scamming people. He's a con artist, and you've fallen for his scam.

The repercussions of their decision making is far greater with Clinton. The net suffering she has caused is far greater than Trump I.e. Libya and her support of Obama's drone program.

Unfortunately arguments against a candidate can't be made in a vacuum. Trump might be a criminal businessesman who has broken a longer list of rules than Clinton but his lack of tax returns doesn't seem quite as serious as fanning the flames of a civil war and ignoring international law to kill people without trial.

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You didn't really pay attention to anything that disagreed with your internal narrative, did you? Name five separate things Hillary has done that you find more deplorable than anything Trump has done.

Lied in literally everything she ever does.

Edit: Also what Knadra said.

[TwoNineMarine]

I can see people not learning much about Hilary - but Trump could get his collective ass kicked, depending on if he holds his temper and if the moderator is fact-checking. They could learn a lot about what a lying sack of shit he really is.

I meant more about actual policy and their plans for the US.

But I see your point. Either way both are lying sacks of shit.

[Breccia]

How is that a morally deplorable thing?

Did you just ask if accusing the President of the United States of treason, without anything remotely like proof, is deplorable?

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Lied in literally everything she ever does.

That's not what literally means. No really try five. We're waiting.

[cubby]

Lied in literally everything she ever does.

Edit: Also what Knadra said.

So you can't even find one thing?

Name 10 separate things Hillary has done that you find deplorable?

[mvaliz]

Last I checked, nobody could have died from Trump's fuckups compared to Hillary's.

...was Donald Dump ever involved in any decision making via the US military? Hrmmmm... Last I checked his focus was bankrupting casinos, selling mexican/chineese manufactured clothes, bullshit business "Certificates" and dead cow meat.

That's ok - I'm sure all the people he screwed over with his 6 bankruptcies and those who dumped their life savings for a bullshit Certificate are doing pretty OK today and nothing bad happened to them... So, yeah, lets put that behind the wheel of Nuclear Weapons arsenal! Nobody can surely be hurt then compared to the 4 dead in a situation that has probably more to do with Kevin Bacon than Hillary Clinton! :P

[cubby]

I meant more about actual policy and their plans for the US.

Yeah, Trump has made zero policy plan speeches - all his stuff is basically MAGA. He has policy initiatives, but not once has he personally laid it out, in detail, live.

But I see your point. Either way both are lying sacks of shit.

They aren't, but it's not your fault you don't know that - the media has been horrible in their treatment of Hillary and their lack of treatment (until recently) of Trump.

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That's not what literally means. No really try five. We're waiting.

Her Stance on Gay Marriage and her Political stance has changed dramatically every time it suits her.

She claimed she was broke when leaving the white house and that is false.

She claimed she was under sniper fire, but we have videos proving that is false.

She claimed all her grandparents were Immigrants, but only one was.

Benghazi,

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...was Donald Dump ever involved in any decision making via the US military? Hrmmmm... Last I checked his focus was bankrupting casinos, selling mexican/chineese manufactured clothes, bullshit business "Certificates" and dead cow meat.

That's ok - I'm sure all the people he screwed over with his 6 bankruptcies and those who dumped their life savings for a bullshit Certificate are doing pretty OK today and nothing bad happened to them... So, yeah, lets put that behind the wheel of Nuclear Weapons arsenal! Nobody can surely be hurt then compared to the 4 dead in a situation that has probably more to do with Kevin Bacon than Hillary Clinton! :P

So by your own admittance Trump has no record of doing anything on the level of Benghazi.

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http://www.politifact.com/personalit...yruling/false/

I think this is a useful tool.

It shows both of them as deplorable people who can't tell the truth.

[Cthulhu 2020]

RBut if we check the magnitude of the crimes, it's no contest.

Trump properties overseas use human trafficking, so yeah, it's no contest.

[Breccia]

Her Stance on Gay Marriage and her Political stance has changed dramatically every time it suits her.

She claimed she was broke when leaving the white house and that is false.

She claimed she was under sniper fire, but we have videos proving that is false.

She claimed all her grandparents were Immigrants, but only one was.

Benghazi,

You think lying about her grandparents...is worse than anything Trump's ever done.

Okay then. I think that just about says it right there.

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Trump properties overseas use human trafficking, so yeah, it's no contest.

Do you have actual proof to back that up?

Because you know, that's still not as bad as Libya and the state run anarchy the Democratic party are encouraging.

[DeadmanWalking]

I always wondered what would happen if the Trump thread and the Hillary thread rubbed genitals and made a baby, thanks to this thread now I know.

[mvaliz]

I think you don't understand what a hypocrite. I have no real emotional investment in this discourse,

...it was at this point, The Fiend has surpassed the number of lies he told in this thread alone that that of which he accuses Hillary Clinton of.

I mean honestly, Look at this.

[video=youtube;-dY77j6uBHI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dY77j6uBHI[video]

I mean, honestly, look at this:



There’s more lies outlined in this video TEN TIMES OVER than anything that video produced.

Tell ya what skippy, you go back up and watch that John Oliver vid from before and ACTUALLY counter the points, and I’ll then watch your whatever vid you posted.

[TwoNineMarine]

Yeah, Trump has made zero policy plan speeches - all his stuff is basically MAGA. He has policy initiatives, but not once has he personally laid it out, in detail, live.




They aren't, but it's not your fault you don't know that - the media has been horrible in their treatment of Hillary and their lack of treatment (until recently) of Trump.

Yup. Trump needs to get actual policy plans, with details, if he even wants to stand a chance.

And the media has been pretty damn fair to Hillary. The vast majority of sites out there are practically trying to blow her.

I know several people (military and law enforcement) who've provided security for her back when Bill and her were tromping around trying to get Bill elected and guys who've worked as additional security for in the past year or so who have some pretty intense stories. Her treatment of them and their co workers and that of the Secret Service while in their presence is abominable. That alone is enough to make me dislike and distrust her.

Feel free to message me if you want examples. I'm about off work and have a long night at the Fire Department ahead haha. So I won't be able to reply here for a while.

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You think lying about her grandparents...is worse than anything Trump's ever done.

Okay then. I think that just about says it right there.

It's just an easy point to make, If you need to lie about a small thing like that, what exactly is wrong in only having one immigrant grandparent?, then how can you trust people with the larger lies?

Hillary is someone who will say anything to get ahead. Trump says whatever he wants. Both lie, but one of them lies because they're a dickhead, the other lies because they are corrupt as fuck.

[TwoNineMarine]

You think lying about her grandparents...is worse than anything Trump's ever done.

Okay then. I think that just about says it right there.

It's not a matter of what's worse necessarily. The point is she's a lying hag who can't be trusted.

[DeadmanWalking]

...it was at this point, The Fiend has surpassed the number of lies he told in this thread alone that that of which he accuses Hillary Clinton of.



I mean, honestly, look at this:



There’s more lies outlined in this video TEN TIMES OVER than anything that video produced.

Tell ya what skippy, you go back up and watch that John Oliver vid from before and ACTUALLY counter the points, and I’ll then watch your whatever vid you posted.

Good luck getting a Trump supporter to watch John Oliver, they are allergic to exposed truth.