Bonereaver's Hook Discussion (mainly)

**c21684** · 2016-10-02, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by Raiz

Assuming it's the case, it means it couldn't be inside caverns, or karahzan, or inside any bookself where you can't mount (thinking about some of the 12 books you have to look for the hidden disc appearance).

Still, it feels weird to be able to cast it while mounted "inside" a laboratory. I guess, the lab doesn't allow you to mount, just that the journal teleports you.

I don't think a "trigger" would be castable I think that castable stuff under it isn't anything because its a trigger I would assume it may work like the warrior cave trigger or the druid dreamwalk trigger (similar to those) again just a guess

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oops that mage musta posted while I was typing mine up but yeah maybe when u trigger the journal it ports you to the lab

**Efrit** · 2016-10-02, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by sleepykins

Hey Irador here from the mage Discord (You guys really should get a discord..and a fancy word doc)

Here's my general advise, I could be wrong, this is just how it worked out for us. If npcs exist, they can be datamined. If a quest exists, it can be datamined. If you have to use a specific ability, its probably tied to a quest directly. (For us it was 5 zone Polymorphs).

Additionally for us, our phased area (likely your putricide hidden lab) was the last part of the chain. I can't imagine Bliz just fucked over DKs and made your AK requirements higher, so there has to be a way to activate it, unless its a later step. It seems like Trigger ---> Spell is cast (maybe you end up being Tpd into the phase) --> Journal. (You'd assume this would be somewhere in Icecrown) but you might need to do something in your order hall first. Or maybe even somewhere else.

My best guesses are the hook artifact makes me think of Stitches. So either your ability, or another Abom with a hook.

Also in our experience, Blizzard will never tell you. We tried our hardest to get them to admit things were AK locked for weeks and they insisted stuff was available so there's probably very little point in that.

Mind you I'm just guessing, I don't actually know and could be completely wrong about all of that.

I don't have a DK at 110 so sadly I can't really help much I don't think. Either way good luck guys.

Thanks for your input. We've tried just about anything that would make sense, that's the frustrating part. I personally have tried exploding corpses, controlling almost every type of undead i see. Idk what to try next honestly.

Deleted · 2016-10-02, 02:50 PM

Something to mention as well guys, everything you test in BI, do it with your abomination combat ally and try his hook ability. Seems very relevant, maybe the journal can't even spawn without him present.

**sleepykins** · 2016-10-02, 02:52 PM

Trust me I know. We tried everything only to realize it was an AK6 gate and something as simple as stepping over a spot in our order hall thousands of times. Didn't require any crazy spells or doing anything super creative. But we had a quest for that. The lack of quest for you guys is what concerns me, unless yours is just programmed way differently.

**Viscereality** · 2016-10-02, 02:55 PM

Only because its amusing, the Decaying Journal stack of books model is in the Archeology shop under a table.

**jVensaint** · 2016-10-02, 03:00 PM

Sorry if it already was, but it makes sense - if u took the belcher talent then u can sum pet with the name of putricide aboms.

**Viscereality** · 2016-10-02, 03:01 PM

Also is there any way we can have a script give us a true\false if a certain prop ID is near us? Couldn't we find whatever ID the decaying journal model uses and just scan for that until we know every location where it is?

I still think the model is sitting in the world and "triggering" it causes an NPC with the same model to spawn in the same spot that either teleports us or we interact with to teleport.

**Nnyco** · 2016-10-02, 03:18 PM

i dont wanna pop your guys bubble with all your fancy scripts but didnt simca already check if anyone seen that journal and comfirmed that no one ever yet came across it?

**c21684** · 2016-10-02, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by Viscereality

Also is there any way we can have a script give us a true\false if a certain prop ID is near us? Couldn't we find whatever ID the decaying journal model uses and just scan for that until we know every location where it is?

I still think the model is sitting in the world and "triggering" it causes an NPC with the same model to spawn in the same spot that either teleports us or we interact with to teleport.

yes please script for that and I agree with your point also

Deleted · 2016-10-02, 03:23 PM

Has anyone tried Control Undead on any mob in BI, after AK6, and maybe be able to interact with your 'pet' ?

**Raiz** · 2016-10-02, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by Nnyco

i dont wanna pop your guys bubble with all your fancy scripts but didnt simca already check if anyone seen that journal and comfirmed that no one ever yet came across it?

I know, but did we try it with our AK6+ ?

**Rafoel** · 2016-10-02, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by Alystro

As painful as it may be, has anyone tried the whole swimming around all the obscure ocean areas with AK6? I refuse to believe if the journal was just lying somewhere on BI that someone wouldn't have triggered it by now. I don't know, we're desperate at this point. I have no water mount or would do myself

As painful as it sounds, I did. I checked everything around Broken Isles and Acherus, Stormheim, Val'sharah and Suramar. Didn't check Azsuna and Highmountain.

**Viscereality** · 2016-10-02, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by Ephel

I had a thought while doing world quests, Festerface was added as an NPC in the last batch along with all the other random undead. But that's actual BOSS Festerface not an unknown location one. Festerface is comprised of Festergut and Rotface, so on a whim I looked up Rottgut because hes using the missing names technically and found he does in fact have an Undead variant added in the same build with 3 abilities. Location unknown.

http://www.wowhead.com/npc=111237/rottgut Added in Patch 7.0.1 (Build #21796)

**gegalfo** · 2016-10-02, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by Viscereality

I had a thought while doing world quests, Festerface was added as an NPC in the last batch along with all the other random undead. But that's actual BOSS Festerface not an unknown location one. Festerface is comprised of Festergut and Rotface, so on a whim I looked up Rottgut because hes using the missing names technically and found he does in fact have an Undead variant added in the same build with 3 abilities. Location unknown.

http://www.wowhead.com/npc=111237/rottgut Added in Patch 7.0.1 (Build #21796)

have you looked at your companions recently?

**Viscereality** · 2016-10-02, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by gegalfo

have you looked at your companions recently?

Yes smartass, that's not the companion you summon in the world or the one standing in your class hall. When Blizzard pushed a build with all the other scourge enemies they added another NPC version of Rottgut with 2 more abilities besides meat hook.

Rottgut NPC in Acherus Added in Patch 7.0.1 (Build #21737)
Unknown location "Undead" Rottgut Added in Patch 7.0.1 (Build #21796)
Unknown location "Humanoid" Rottgut Added in Patch 7.0.1 (Build #21796)
Champion Rottgut Quest Added in Patch 7.0.3 (Build #22522)

Deleted · 2016-10-02, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by Alystro

As painful as it may be, has anyone tried the whole swimming around all the obscure ocean areas with AK6? I refuse to believe if the journal was just lying somewhere on BI that someone wouldn't have triggered it by now. I don't know, we're desperate at this point. I have no water mount or would do myself

You're a DK, use path of frost.

**MediEvilHero** · 2016-10-02, 04:10 PM

Hello, fellow death knights! Today I had an interesting conversation with the owner of UH hidden artifact skin (1000 HK option to be specific) (Proof: http: //i.imgur.com/qHmgRPm.jpg). So here is the chat conversation I had with him (I edited the name out):

Spoiler:

Can anyone confirm or deny this?

**Viscereality** · 2016-10-02, 04:11 PM

Yes we know about that.

Deleted · 2016-10-02, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by MediEvilHero

Hello, fellow death knights! Today I had an interesting conversation with the owner of UH hidden artifact skin (1000 HK option to be specific) (Proof: http: //i.imgur.com/qHmgRPm.jpg). So here is the chat conversation I had with him (I edited the name out):

Spoiler:

Can anyone confirm or deny this?

It's the infamous bug that is mentioned on 100 of these 229 pages.

**Anakonda** · 2016-10-02, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by MediEvilHero

Hello, fellow death knights! Today I had an interesting conversation with the owner of UH hidden artifact skin (1000 HK option to be specific) (Proof: http: //i.imgur.com/qHmgRPm.jpg). So here is the chat conversation I had with him (I edited the name out):

Spoiler:

Can anyone confirm or deny this?

seriously, can we get a mod here to ban/corpse explode these people?

Or better yet, can we start a new thread where we can write on the first page what NOT to "recommend"?

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