Man on PCP tries to kill cop, cop refuses to shoot for fear of public backlash, video

[Polyxo]

I think all of the cops involved should've been fired. They really don't know how to control an uncooperative person. Hips and shoulders. It's really not that hard.

[phitness]

Amazing that not a single cop knows how to choke someone out. They could have ended the whole thing in about 10 secs with a choke hold and put him to sleep. None of the cops in that video look physically capable of doing their jobs unless they mainly act as traffic gaurds. People already dont want to become cops and now the ones that do apply are limp wrist out of shape people that should be sitting behind a desk or behind a mop bucket.

[Jonnusthegreat]

Amazing that not a single cop knows how to choke someone out. They could have ended the whole thing in about 10 secs with a choke hold and put him to sleep. None of the cops in that video look physically capable of doing their jobs unless they mainly act as traffic gaurds. People already dont want to become cops and now the ones that do apply are limp wrist out of shape people that should be sitting behind a desk or behind a mop bucket.

Agreed, I weigh 145 lbs with no formal training and if there were 4 other people holding someone down I could have ended that non-lethally in about 30 seconds.

[Shibito]

Obviously, OP, ''a gud kop'' is one that empty his big manly handgun on suspects when he spots them. Nothing is more virile than firing on unharmed suspects.

Ah nice how you using the gud boy thing that gets people infracted by endus.

[RickJamesLich]

This video just demonstrates why a lot of cops resort to using their weapon - their job is extremely unsafe. It's always easy to criticize the cops when you're an arm chair quarter back tho.

[JohnBrown1917]

Its to thanks to people like the OP that the US has a cop problem.


Please, do not ever move to my country.

[phitness]

Its to thanks to people like the OP that the US has a cop problem.


Please, do not ever move to my country.

If your country is Russia you dont have to worry about anyone wanting to move there.

[PACOX]

When was she supposed to shoot him exactly?

I see a bunch of shitty cops with shitty training. I'll take half that back - I'm not saying they are shitty people because I don't know them but their training is shit and they were obviously ill prepared for that situation. Just about everything they did in their takedown was wrong, from half ass holds to what appeared to be cops just watching as as others got the crap beat out if them.

You don't need a gun in that situation but you do need some hands on training.

Have people not been listening? One of the ingredients in the cake we call "police misconduct" is piss poor training that has led to officers relying on the gun way too much or not being able to handle a situation like the one in the video, thus relying on the gun.

Seriously thought, when was she supposed to use her gun?

[Polyxo]

From an objective standpoint, the guy in the khaki pants is the only one who has the slightest idea of what he's doing. Also, the hyperbolic commentary of the article is fantastic.

[sarahtasher]

When was she supposed to shoot him exactly?

I see a bunch of shitty cops with shitty training. I'll take half that back - I'm not saying they are shitty people because I don't know them but their training is shit and they were obviously ill prepared for that situation. Just about everything they did in their takedown was wrong, from half ass holds to what appeared to be cops just watching as as others got the crap beat out if them.

You don't need a gun in that situation but you do need some hands on training.

Have people not been listening? One of the ingredients in the cake we call "police misconduct" is piss poor training that has led to officers relying on the gun way too much or not being able to handle a situation like the one in the video, thus relying on the gun.



Seriously thought, when was she supposed to use her gun?

The OP said it 0.24

[Mister Cheese]

I doubt Chicago needs any more rioting. You know there's a problem when Cops are afraid to do their jobs now.

[omeomorfismo]

XDXDXD
in a nation where students can go to university only thanks their sports achievement, really yours cops can be fat and dont go to some gym?

[TrumpIsPresident]

The OP said it 0.24

I said 0:24 was when the gun should have been drawn.

This would have been proper procedure in the event that they've approached a suspect that is trying to flee an accident scene and is belligerently ignoring commands, the gun should have come out purely as a measure of caution.

Her gun should have been drawn at the 0:24 mark.

He started aggressive resisting at around 0:35.

She got grabbed around 1:25.

There was time to put him down, and it would have been 100% justified to do so.

As for the time to shoot?

0:44 you hear them start to taze him for the first time off-camera.

0:55 that tick-tick-tick sound stops assuming this is when the off-camera officer stops tazing him.

1:13 both officers lose control of him.

My opinion is this is the point in which the female officer should have aimed, told her partner to create some space, and taken the shot.

She failed to do so and she told us exactly why.

It wasn't just a mistake it was her deliberate intention not to use her weapon.

She needs to be fired or parked behind a desk.

[sarahtasher]

I said 0:24 was when the gun should have been drawn.

This would have been proper procedure in the event that they've approached a suspect that is trying to flee an accident scene and is belligerently ignoring commands, the gun should have come out purely as a measure of caution.



As for the time to shoot?

0:44 you hear them start to taze him for the first time off-camera.

0:55 that tick-tick-tick sound stops assuming this is when the off-camera officer stops tazing him.

1:13 both officers lose control of him.

My opinion is this is the point in which the female officer should have aimed, told her partner to create some space, and taken the shot.

She failed to do so and she told us exactly why.

It wasn't just a mistake it was her deliberate intention not to use her weapon.

She needs to be fired or parked behind a desk.

She should have aimed at him while being punched and thrown to the ground Gotcha. She should have done like ''in duh movies'' and pull up both two big manly guns and shoot dual handled (with, it's convenient, the bullet time that surely happens in real life too)

And kudos for ''put down''. You look so tough and alpha. No doubt that the US need to fire all their ''beta cucks cops'' and ''affirmative action'' (code word) and replace them with virile dudes ''more kompetent than the kops, kauze I have a big AK-47 and I'm willing to fire it anyone that look funny at me''

[Berengil]

If I'm around, you can count on me to bring you the substance that few others will deliver.

I appreciate the gesture, but if I want that kind of substance, I'll click over to Stormfront. Or a cow pattie.


As for the vid: good. Nobody's dead, and crook apprehended.

Cops should hesitate to take a life.

" It's a helluva thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have. (Unforgiven,; 1992)

[TrumpIsPresident]

I appreciate the gesture, but if I want that kind of substance, I'll click over to Stormfront. Or a cow pattie.


As for the vid: good. Nobody's dead, and crook apprehended.

Cops should hesitate to take a life.

" It's a helluva thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have. (Unforgiven,; 1992)

And I always appreciate the sort of radical extremist triggered mentality that looks at criticism of an officer who puts people in danger as being "racist".

Of course if every single factor of this indictment was the same, except for the skin color of the perp, there wouldn't be anybody dropping the "stormfront" meme.


Oh, and you say this is good?

A cop who refuses to do their job isn't good.

Next time it could be her partners life in danger, or a civilians, maybe one day you or a family member is being assaulted and the cop who response fails to do what is necessary to save you because of some misguided SJW brainwashing.

The "Ferguson effect", as they call it, is not good at all.

Its a breakdown of law & order.

[Berengil]

The "Ferguson effect", as they call it, is not good at all.

Its a breakdown of law & order.

The "Ferguson effect" is a good thing.

Cops should be aware that they will be scrutinized to hell and back for every little thing they do. They are public servants, not our masters.

If they aren't prepared to take the risk inherent in hesitating to use deadly force, I have a suggestion for them: quit.

[Orange Joe]

I'm not seeing the issue. They arrested him without anyone dying correct?

That is what police are suppose to do. They are not the be judge, jury and executioner on the streets.

[sarahtasher]

And I always appreciate the sort of radical extremist triggered mentality that looks at criticism of an officer who puts people in danger as being "racist".

Of course if every single factor of this indictment was the same, except for the skin color of the perp, there wouldn't be anybody dropping the "stormfront" meme.


Oh, and you say this is good?

A cop who refuses to do their job isn't good.

Next time it could be her partners life in danger, or a civilians, maybe one day you or a family member is being assaulted and the cop who response fails to do what is necessary to save you because of some misguided SJW brainwashing.

The "Ferguson effect", as they call it, is not good at all.

Its a breakdown of law & order.

And of course, cop job boil down to ''shoot unharmed suspects''

[Sky High]

I'm not seeing the issue. They arrested him without anyone dying correct?

That is what police are suppose to do. They are not the be judge, jury and executioner on the streets.

nope! as Zomb said they should have put the subhuman down like the beast he is. /s