US Army Corp of Engineers: Dakota Pipeline to be re-routed

[Nadiru]

Time to invest in BRK.B, I suppose.

[PC2]

Why should they?

Optimal pathing. Civilizational infrastructure trumps the environment.

[Dug]

Good, goes to show that protest really does work. Right wing hates all protest unless it's by God Loving™, Gun Owning™ 'mericans walking into starbucks and wal-mart with ARs strapped across their back.

[Orbitus]

Optimal pathing. Civilizational infrastructure trumps the environment.

So you want to die from toxic water and air? Good, move to China or India.

[Elegiac]

Optimal pathing. Civilizational infrastructure trumps the environment.

Until you're poisoned by crude oil in your drinking water, that is.

[Exedore]

Until you're poisoned by crude oil in your drinking water, that is.

Pipelines are by far the safest way to transport natural resources. But I guess you're happy with the oil staying in the ground. We'll go back to killing whales I guess.

[Machismo]

My biggest issue with the pipeline is still the use of eminent domain, something that's not really being addressed by most people. The army and law enforcement blinked first, and it will come back to haunt them in the long run. They are saying they will re-route the pipeline, but have not properly stated why there is a justification to change the route. Either the choice is completely arbitrary, and they are weak, or they knew it was unsafe from the beginning, and were trying to push it through, anyways. The government put themselves into a very bad position over this.

[Elegiac]

Pipelines are by far the safest way to transport natural resources. But I guess you're happy with the oil staying in the ground. We'll go back to killing whales I guess.

Cool, we can build them next to your house.

[PC2]

So you want to die from toxic water and air? Good, move to China or India.

Until you're poisoned by crude oil in your drinking water, that is.

Nah, the pipes will be built to control the oil so it wont get into the water system. Trace air particles have not stopped life expectancy from increasing overall.

[Exedore]

Cool, we can build them next to your house.

Okay. I'll likely get some money from lease rights on my land, so win-win. I get cheaper oil and I get some cash on the side.

[Elegiac]

Nah, the pipes will be built to control the oil so it wont get into the water system. Trace air particles have not stopped life expectancy from increasing overall.

How many pipeline accidents have we had in the last ten years, I wonder.

[Gorgodeus]

Optimal pathing. Civilizational infrastructure trumps the environment.

Incorrect. There are numerous examples of infrastructure being rerouted around areas deemed worthy of environmental protection. The interstate highway system is a perfect example of this.

[jdbond592]

Government for people?Drain the swamp?

[PC2]

How many pipeline accidents have we had in the last ten years, I wonder.

Not enough to stop building infrastructure because there might be an accident.

[Listrata]

I don't see the point in the delay. There is already a pipe in the same spot. The new pipe was going to paralel the one built in the 1980s. If they are not allowed to build the pipe to go under the river as planned they will just build a bridge for trucks or trains. Silly people cutting their own throat.

[PC2]

Incorrect. There are numerous examples of infrastructure being rerouted around areas deemed worthy of environmental protection. The interstate highway system is a perfect example of this.

Yeah there have been sub-optimal solutions in the past, we can do better.

[Gorgodeus]

Not enough to stop building infrastructure because there might be an accident.

Go educate yourself. It is not a matter of "might" when it routinely happens.

Since 2010, over 3,300 incidents of crude oil and liquefied natural gas leaks or ruptures have occurred on U.S. pipelines. These incidents have killed 80 people, injured 389 more, and cost $2.8 billion in damages. They also released toxic, polluting chemicals in local soil, waterways, and air.

Over 1,000 of these incidents occurred on pipelines carrying crude oil.
http://www.foreffectivegov.org/blog/...ipeline-spills

[nexellent]

about time, now to just persecute the cops as war criminals for using chemical weapons.

[Kaleredar]

On CNN's website, I read that a group of veterans was arriving to support the protesters. Maybe that had something to do with it? Dragging off and handcuffing veterans engaged in protest would look really bad in the news.

Kind of a conflict for right wingers lol.

"Drill, baby, drill" vs "Support Our Troops"
@TITAN308
@10thMountainMan

Any comments?

The republican party has already proven it has the interests of big oil over that of the military.

http://www.politico.com/agenda/story...te-plan-000149

[PC2]

Go educate yourself. It is not a matter of "might" when it routinely happens.

Since 2010, over 3,300 incidents of crude oil and liquefied natural gas leaks or ruptures have occurred on U.S. pipelines. These incidents have killed 80 people, injured 389 more, and cost $2.8 billion in damages. They also released toxic, polluting chemicals in local soil, waterways, and air.

Over 1,000 of these incidents occurred on pipelines carrying crude oil.
http://www.foreffectivegov.org/blog/...ipeline-spills

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I understand, the engineering will have to keep improving until there is zero leaks.

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about time, now to just persecute the cops as war criminals for using chemical weapons.

Not all chemical weapons are illegal.