Man Says Son Is Too "Handsome" For Assault

[Kathandira]

The sex offender registry is wrong, imo. I think crimes should be punished with the appropriate sentence, and then the criminal should be forgiven and be allowed to rejoin society. I understand that pedophiles, for example, likely cannot be cured. The solution to that is initial sentencing, not a life of being a second class citizen. In addition, the registry doesn't really work, in any way. All it does is make people scared of their neighbors. Furthermore, as other posters have pointed out, not everyone on the registry is a pedophile. There is little evidence to show that standard rapists cannot be cured, like pedophiles. In my opinion, the registry is cruel and unusual punishment, and should be challenged in the SCOTUS.

Our post sentence treatment is all screwed up. A convicted fellon can't own a gun.

[Tijuana]

Our post sentence treatment is all screwed up. A convicted fellon can't own a gun.

I agree that felons should not have firearms. However, I do not agree that felons should not be able to vote. And, I certainly don't agree with it being legal to deny a felon a job. What's the point of letting someone out of jail if they can never provide for themselves and their family? We should forgive and forget, and we would greatly improve recidivism figures.

[Felya]

If the father was found guilty, does that mean he is ugly?

[Belloc]

https://www.nsopw.gov/

Feel free to pull up some names of people who are registered sex offenders due to peeing in public. I'll wait.

I'm not going to play your stupid game. Instead, I'll link this: http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com...aw-penalty.htm

Also, how about the 15 year-old that got caught with pictures of his 16 year-old girlfriend's boobs?

Or how about the teenager having consensual sex with his teenage girlfriend, whose fundamentally religious parents have him arrested for rape?

Or the couple caught having sex in an empty public area?

The point still stands: Sex offender doesn't mean rapist. There are plenty of morally upstanding people who are sex offenders.

[Rotted]

Actually if you read the story, it raises the question of why a registered sex offender is even allowed back onto the streets.

All the article says is he has a background, no specific details, quite a few things can get you on that list,

Prostitute visits,
pissing in a public area
Flashing,

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure he's probably not been done for one of those, but regardless, thats not the point of the article.

Anyways, a lot of people raising the same point or something similar as the above quoted, lets remember some key things here:

1) Don't label the son based on the fathers actions
2) In his class mates eyes, (or even in general) he might have a successful future in football, clearly making him popular,
3) We don't know if alcohol was involved or not or even drugs.
4) If I have the right school here, according to this description, it is a catholic school, the girl might have been willing and had immediate regret, possibly thinking crying rape wouldn't get her in a shit storm if her parents found out. By all means I'm not saying this is the case, but it is a possibility.

I'm sure I could go on listing a few more, but thats what investigators are for, and you shouldn't jump to conclusions, If it turns out his innocent, it doesn't matter, more than likely (if it was in the works) his football career will be over before its finished, odds are majority of locals will be "Oh theres that rapist that got away with it" because fuck evidence right.

Anyways back on topic, regardless of the outcome:

That is a fucking retarded statement as to why someone wouldn't rape anyone

[Kathandira]

I agree that felons should not have firearms. However, I do not agree that felons should not be able to vote. And, I certainly don't agree with it being legal to deny a felon a job. What's the point of letting someone out of jail if they can never provide for themselves and their family? We should forgive and forget, and we would greatly improve recidivism figures.

My issue is that not all felonies are violent. Tax evasion is a felony.

However, I may be ignorant to any fine details to that law, and it might only pertain to violent felons. I may need to be corrected on that if I am missing some information.

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Every "news outlet" that labels a POTENTIAL victim of a rape, which is NOT YET PROVEN in a court of law, as a "survivor", is not trustworthy, it's just your typical 3rd wave stupidism propaganda.

That is a very good point which has been overlooked. Good call

[Tijuana]

My issue is that not all felonies are violent. Tax evasion is a felony.

However, I may be ignorant to any fine details to that law, and it might only pertain to violent felons. I may need to be corrected on that if I am missing some information.

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That is a very good point which has been overlooked. Good call

I am unaware of any distinction. I can see your side of the matter, however.

[Celista]

The point still stands: Sex offender doesn't mean rapist. There are plenty of morally upstanding people who are sex offenders.

No there are not. Just because you pee in public doesn't mean you end up on a sex offender registry. If there is an individual on a sex offender registry there is a REASON they are on that registry. Indecent exposure or public lewdness convictions where you end up on a sex offender registry has to involve incidents where an individual directly exposed themselves to a minor.

People don't just end up on sex offender registries for peeing in bushes, this is the height of paranoia.

[Annoying]

An 18 year old who has sex with a 17 year old "can" be tried as a sex offender.

Depends where you live.
California, Arizona, North Dakota, Virginia, and Wisconsin are the only states that have an AoC at 18 with no close-in-age exception that would result in a crime being committed. Every other state that would be legal.

[Kathandira]

Depends where you live.
California, Arizona, North Dakota, Virginia, and Wisconsin are the only states that have an AoC at 18 with no close-in-age exception that would result in a crime being committed. Every other state that would be legal.

That's why I wanted to accent the word "can". It isn't exactly common for it to happen as it is usually seen as within the range of age of consent.

[Traveler Voltin]

And with that lets add another 10 years to his sentence.

[Belloc]

No there are not. Just because you pee in public doesn't mean you end up on a sex offender registry. If there is an individual on a sex offender registry there is a REASON they are on that registry. Indecent exposure or public lewdness convictions where you end up on a sex offender registry has to involve incidents where an individual directly exposed themselves to a minor.

People don't just end up on sex offender registries for peeing in bushes, this is the height of paranoia.

If you want to remain willfully ignorant of the way the world works, be my guest, but please don't force your mistaken beliefs on the rest of us.

[Celista]

If you want to remain willfully ignorant of the way the world works, be my guest, but please don't force your mistaken beliefs on the rest of us.

I went to law school, I have a feeling that I am better informed on this subject than you are.

[Molis]

Right Said Fred was right all along

[Tomservo]

Yeah right dude. How would you feel if you had 2 young daughters only to realize that Billy next door is a convicted sex offender?

I'd know who not to ask to babysit.

[Tennis]

I'd know who not to ask to babysit.

What about when your kids are walking home from school? You're gonna be comfortable with such individuals living closeby?

[Zenotetsuken]

Actually if you read the story, it raises the question of why a registered sex offender is even allowed back onto the streets.

Oh, what was his offense? "Sex offender" is an EXTREMELY broad label.

Just a few things that are considered "Sex Crimes" that force you to register as a "Sex Offender"

Masturbation anywhere that is considered a public place, including in your car.
Urinating in public within a certain distance (don't know off the top of my head) from a school/playground/park.
Having sex anywhere that is considered a public place, including in your car.
Teenagers having consensual sex.
Solicitation of prostitution.

So please, tell us exactly what this guy did. You seem to know more about him than what is written in the story.

[Tomservo]

What about when your kids are walking home from school? You're gonna be comfortable with such individuals living closeby?

As long as they're masturbating behind closed doors.

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Oh, what was his offense? "Sex offender" is an EXTREMELY broad label.

Depending on where you live, you could end up on the registry for public urination.

[IIamaKing]

Yes it is. What isn't a common practice on the other hand is public registries for sex offenders. Information on criminal background or sentencing is often available upon special request (usually for a limited period of time), but public registries that essentially near guarantee that a person cannot reintegrate after completing his or her sentence is quite unusual.

Yeh, as a father, I am torn on this. If we are letting out folks who we dont trust to be back around kids or what not....why are we letting them out?
And if they are reformed why are they getting the scarlet letter treatment?

Seems unfair as shit.

[Zenotetsuken]

As long as they're masturbating behind closed doors.

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Depending on where you live, you could end up on the registry for public urination.

Yeah, I edited my comment with just a few things that can cause you to have to register as a sex offender.