Raid Tuning and Nighthold Release Date, Prestige Bug

[Supercool]

Story-wise speaking, ToV takes place AFTER NH.

I'm not sure where you got this. That the Nighthold raid was designed before the ToV raid doesn't mean that it takes place earlier in the lore. Heck, Nighthold the raid was finished before the Suramar content leading in to taking over the city and entering the Nighthold.

[Deleted]

Cutting edge: Xavius achivement gets removed with the release of nighthold and replace with Cutting Edge: Guldan

No it doesn't.

The next tier of content is 7.2

[Ezekiah]

No it doesn't.

The next tier of content is 7.2

Blizzard just confirmed that cutting edge for Xavius is gone Jan 17

[Wildpantz]

This could very well be the lowest kill count of a mythic endboss until the next raid tier. Unless of course they end up nerfing Helya mythic before releasing NH. We are a top 100 guild and struggling hard to even get into p3. There is like what, 30 kills on her so far? I personally don't mind the release schedule, but I hope this won't discourage a lot of mythic guilds.

This is still tier 1 even with nighthold. 7.2 tier 2 then 7.3 tier 3

[Krazzorx]

NH is not the next tier - its the FIRST tier. NH was there from the very begining, just not opened until soon. Story-wise speaking, ToV takes place AFTER NH. After release of NH I expect ToV difficulty to drop massively.

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That wouldnt be that bad tbh.
First, the top guilds wouldnt be forced to tryhard so much.
Second, they would have enough time to gear up for the final boss, meaning no overtuned encounter and no need for some gimmicks/suspicious tactics.
Third, the whiners wouldnt complain about the content (that they will never complete anyway) is cleared so fast.

They could do something like ICC. New wing each week (if i remember correctly). Ooooh and only 50 tries for the final boss please

It clearly takes place after because we get Illidan's soul from Helya to put in Xera (soul prism of the illidari follow up) to put in his body which Gul'dan has in NH .

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This is still tier 1 even with nighthold. 7.2 tier 2 then 7.3 tier 3

Blizz has many times mentioned they aren't using the player defined "Tier" terms. This is most clearly shown by Xavius aotc going away when NH hits.

[Shakou]

Cutting edge: Xavius achivement gets removed with the release of nighthold and replace with Cutting Edge: Guldan

False, this is all one tier of content. AOTC/Cutting Edger Xavius is not getting removed until 7.2

[Eleccybubb]

False, this is all one tier of content. AOTC/Cutting Edger Xavius is not getting removed until 7.2

No it's getting removed with Nighthold.

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/...2446734?page=2

As another note, this means that Cutting Edge: Xavius and Ahead of the Curve: Xavius will become unobtainable with the release of Nighthold on January 17.

[Deavane]

They didnt explicitely say it this time.

I guess it's possible. Just highly unlikely in my opinion.

[Shakou]

Blizz has many times mentioned they aren't using the player defined "Tier" terms. This is most clearly shown by Xavius aotc going away when NH hits.

And this is the part where you're misconstruing PLAYER defined terms with Blizzard defined terms, Emerald Nightmare, Trial of Valor and Nighthold are all ONE raiding tier, not multiple tiers of content.

[rykon1459918]

got ahead of the curve last night finally, just in time.

[Deleted]

the date was expected pretty much. i assumed january 18, and thats when its out in europe.

gonna be plast, im sick of EN and ToV.

if you really want to do well eairly on, get your hands on high ilvl jewelry.

[Eleccybubb]

And this is the part where you're misconstruing PLAYER defined terms with Blizzard defined terms, Emerald Nightmare, Trial of Valor and Nighthold are all ONE raiding tier, not multiple tiers of content.

Well according to the source I linked above and stated by a Blue it's going away in Nighthold. So yeah you got till the 17th US and 18th Europe to get your AOTC and Cutting Edge stuff done.

[Shakou]

No it's getting removed with Nighthold.

You guys are talking straight out of your ass and possibly spreading disinfo on purpose to trick gullible people into buying heroic and mythic Xavius kills.

Blizzard has stated very clearly that Emerald Nightmare and Nighthold are part of the same raiding tier.

[Eleccybubb]

You guys are talking out of your ass and possibly spreading disinfo on purpose to rick gullible people into buying heroic and mythic Xavius kills.

Blizzard has stated very clearly that Emerald Nightmare and Nighthold are part of the same raiding tier.

I linked you a source that a blue confirmed. Feel free to ignore solid evidence. So again you are the one spreading misinformation. I would happily believe an official confirmation over some random poster on MMO Champion. So you were saying?

[britishbubba]

You guys are talking straight out of your ass and possibly spreading disinfo on purpose to trick gullible people into buying heroic and mythic Xavius kills.

Blizzard has stated very clearly that Emerald Nightmare and Nighthold are part of the same raiding tier.

You might want to read the blue posts before you say people are talking about of their ass.

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/...page=2#post-24

[Deleted]

And this is the part where you're misconstruing PLAYER defined terms with Blizzard defined terms, Emerald Nightmare, Trial of Valor and Nighthold are all ONE raiding tier, not multiple tiers of content.

Actually you are the one that seems confused and misinformed. Blizzard does not define raids by tiers. They are all separate and as they stated, the achievement for xavius hc goes away with the release of nighthold. its come to a point where we should stop using tier aswell to be honest

[Will]

You guys are talking straight out of your ass and possibly spreading disinfo on purpose to trick gullible people into buying heroic and mythic Xavius kills.

Blizzard has stated very clearly that Emerald Nightmare and Nighthold are part of the same raiding tier.

Bro, people are literally linking you a blue post confirming curve will be removed when Nighthold hits. Who cares about pendatics and what 'defines' a tier when the literal word from the lion's mouth itself says curve will be going away. So maybe less answering back and more paying attention to what a couple of people are trying to tell you, yes?

And it kind of makes sense, too. The gear advantage of NH items would defeat the challenge of curve: Xavius.

[solidbear]

Oh Blizzard.. you never learn do you. Hope we don't get another year long content drought....

With blizzard's track record... get ready for the long haul boys.

[Deleted]

Oh Blizzard.. you never learn do you. Hope we don't get another year long content drought....

With blizzard's track record... get ready for the long haul boys.

What relation does your post have to this thread?

[snackfeat]

You guys are talking straight out of your ass and possibly spreading disinfo on purpose to trick gullible people into buying heroic and mythic Xavius kills.

Blizzard has stated very clearly that Emerald Nightmare and Nighthold are part of the same raiding tier.

Are you actually retarded? Multiple people have even linked a source of blizzard saying that it's going away when nighthold opens.