Dont see any problem with trying to stop these domestic terrorists
He's not trying to take the land, you moron...he's stopping oil companies from destroying it.
Infracted. Flaming is not tolerated here
Last edited by Darsithis; 2016-12-30 at 04:27 AM.
Orlong, you never fail to disappoint with your online persona. That terrible commie Obama, protecting federal lands! What will he do next??
The lands were government lands to begin with, this entire thing started because he refused to pay rightful fees for grazing on lands that were not his. Now his family is up in arms because the government is making decisions about its own land. You just can't make this shit up, it's comedy gold.
Good.
People are dirty, irresponsible assholes that desecrate and destroy countless acres of public land on a yearly basis. So many forest fires are started by people who don't put out their campfires. Animals are killed by garbage people throw willy-nilly into lakes, rivers, and forests because they can't be assed to put it in a damn bag and take it with them when they leave. They purposely damage natural wonders for "fun". I'd rather keep them all away and to designated areas meant to handle them.
If the land in question was managed by the Russians this problem wouldn't exist. Thanks Obama!
The state where I live has a national monument named "El Morro National Monument", I think people still visit it, seeing as how it is a tourist attraction. It's actually very close to where I live. And I think I have actually been there myself when I was a child.
Oh, what am I saying? What good are facts when "OBUMMER IS TAKING LAND! HERPA DERP!" is such a convincing argument.
Say, do national parks serve similar purposes as national monuments? Cause maybe the Appalachian Trail needs some liberation... Because that is a 2,000+ mile hiking trail owned and protected by the government, although, during the spring through fall months, many people hike through it because it is a nice place to visit apparently.
Oh, wait, there's that pesky facts again.
The rub is the federal government already controls most of the West. The feds own: 85% of Nevada, 65% of Utah, 62% of Idaho, 61% of Alaska, 53% of Oregon.... The lowest % of any state west of the Rockies is Washington at 28%, which is still higher than the national average. In fact, there are only 4 states east of the Mountain States that the feds own 10% or more of: Hawaii (20%), New Hampshire (14%), Florida (13%), and Michigan (10%). Overall, the feds own just under 50% of the entire Western US NOT INCLUDING ALASKA, but it still isnt enough.....
Orlong is right though. Plain featureless land isn't a monument. Obama is abusing the Antiquities Act and now Trump/Congress has to respond which could potentially end up jeopardizing the Act itself. Plus this abuse of power is one of the very thing why the country handed control of the entire government over to Republicans. People are tired of this stuff. There's no justification for this other than the fact that a lame-duck President is trying to throw up as many roadblocks as he possibly can.
MAGA
When all you do is WIN WIN WIN
SO much confusion in your post. Are saying this "overreach" of the presidents already designated power is the main reason republicans are going to be in control of government? Also, what does making land the government already owns protected have to do with throwing up roadblocks? This faux outrage is getting silly.
Edit: Also here is the definition of the Antiquities Act: This law gives the President of the United States the authority to, by presidential proclamation, create national monuments from federal lands to protect significant natural, cultural, or scientific features.
Last edited by belleflop; 2016-12-30 at 08:14 AM.
You saying the Bears Ears:
Is featureless?
Don't forget the Native American ruins that are there in the canyons.
http://image.oregonlive.com/home/oli...00a0154644.jpg
Sorry, I will go with Obama on this one over someone that doesn't know what the fuck they are talking about.