Trump finally accepts it was the Russians doing the hacking.

[Deleted]

That isn't true at all. America's economy was much stronger than Russia's and that left America with the ability to increase military strength. And the Soviet Union's failure in Afghanistan also lead to it. Star wars had nothing to do with it.

http://russianforces.org/podvig/2013..._the_col.shtml
http://www.wsj.com/articles/star-war...pse-1446839909
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...e-1463972.html

[Sakred]

http://russianforces.org/podvig/2013..._the_col.shtml
http://www.wsj.com/articles/star-war...pse-1446839909
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...e-1463972.html

A nation doesn't crumble because the other side says "Hey we have this super duper weapon we can use.". If the soviet union remained strong economically things wouldn't have lead to where they did.

[Deleted]

A nation doesn't crumble because the other side says "Hey we have this super duper weapon we can use.". If the soviet union remained strong economically things wouldn't have lead to where they did.

Yet, former soviet government leaders and generals do admitted all over the years that the Star Wars Program was one big key, because Soviet Union didn't had the economical power for a new arms and tech race. They believed on Reagan's bluff and quit the game.

[Soeroah]

why do people care so much about trump ? it makes no sense , you dont control trump so why be so obsessed

Are you serious?

People care about Trump because the idiot can reduce a company's stock price by over a billion dollars by making a single uninformed, opinionated tweet.

People care about Trump because he's filling his cabinet with loyalists, CEOs of big banks and businesses and putting people into positions that are the antithesis of what they stand for, despite promising to "drain the swamp".

People care about Trump because he's a massive threat to not only the US' future stability, but much of the developed world. He's in a position where he can affect other countries with his actions.

Your statement is like saying why do people care if North Korea developed intercontinental nukes, we can't control the Dear Leader, why obsess over it?

[Prothynyas]

Are you serious?

People care about Trump because the idiot can reduce a company's stock price by over a billion dollars by making a single uninformed, opinionated tweet.

People care about Trump because he's filling his cabinet with loyalists, CEOs of big banks and businesses and putting people into positions that are the antithesis of what they stand for, despite promising to "drain the swamp".

People care about Trump because he's a massive threat to not only the US' future stability, but much of the developed world. He's in a position where he can affect other countries with his actions.

Your statement is like saying why do people care if North Korea developed intercontinental nukes, we can't control the Dear Leader, why obsess over it?

nobody has ever obsessed about north korea's nukes , and why dont you wait and see what really happens before jumping to conclusions , you let obama happen you let hilary happen .
so in all fairness let trump happen and see what happens , also why are you guys so easly offended and why do you guys panic so easly over nothing
makes absolutely no sense to waste energy and time on that
and a matter of fact that the media was so super biased towards hilary , that nobody would care now
meaning its the after effect still in effect, so my advice to you just wait it out see what happens
because nothing has happened yet , you are just in a panic mode just calm down , you'll be fine

[Stacyrect]

It's Russia, and they also have information stolen from the RNC and the Trump campaign. You are just playing into the scenario Putin wanted to happen; side with his obfuscations and misinformation at the expense of the national security of your country, because Putin realizes republicans support and create conspiracy theories and misinformation better than anyone else outside of Russia.

The information taken from the RNC was from an old email account several years old, so no, they don't have information on Trumps campaign. But keep repeating the propaganda, if you wish it enough and click your heels three times it will become true.

The scenario that played out was a report which had a well detailed map on how the infiltrations happened. What it didn't have was sufficient evidence to connect the dots to Russia. This was aptly pointed out by media who actually have journalistic integrity. Never mind coming from the same intelligence leadership that has been caught lying to the american people multiple times under Obama's administration.

Just because I didn't open wide for the msm bukakai hurricane, like many of you did, doesn't mean those who didn't are drinking putins kool aid. It was wise not to jump to conclusions.

While their certainly seems to be a lot of fake news running around, it will never measure up to how fake the DNC has proven itself to be. The hilarious part is watching them dodge and try to side step anyone who asks them how did their shit get to stink that bad.

[Sakred]

Yet, former soviet government leaders and generals do admitted all over the years that the Star Wars Program was one big key, because Soviet Union didn't had the economical power for a new arms and tech race. They believed on Reagan's bluff and quit the game.

Yeah, exactly. They didn't not just have money for an arms race, they were financially devastated period.

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The information taken from the RNC was from an old email account several years old, so no, they don't have information on Trumps campaign. But keep repeating the propaganda, if you wish it enough and click your heels three times it will become true.

The scenario that played out was a report which had a well detailed map on how the infiltrations happened. What it didn't have was sufficient evidence to connect the dots to Russia. This was aptly pointed out by media who actually have journalistic integrity. Never mind coming from the same intelligence leadership that has been caught lying to the american people multiple times under Obama's administration.

Just because I didn't open wide for the msm bukakai hurricane, like many of you did, doesn't mean those who didn't are drinking putins kool aid. It was wise not to jump to conclusions.

While their certainly seems to be a lot of fake news running around, it will never measure up to how fake the DNC has proven itself to be. The hilarious part is watching them dodge and try to side step anyone who asks them how did their shit get to stink that bad.

You're getting a bukakki shower. Just because you want to believe something doesn't mean it's true. Your hole is just as used up from the ramming of the alt right machine.

Infracted. Keep it constructive.

[Bloodbourne]

Going through articles posted a lot of the stuff is purely conjecture. They have ZERO in the way of hard evidence. They know something was likely done and simply agree upon that it was the Russians, because...they HAVE COME TO THE CONCLUSION that it must've been because it fits what they want to belief...As someone who's relatively center and to his shame used to be center left. I'd rather argue with most non religious conservatives than with the left any day of the week.

That was my point exactly but for some reason you are looking the other way and it puzzles me.
Even if the evidence was fully disclosed, even if Putin himself announced it publicly, there is nothing that would convince the conservatives that its real.
Be real. If you had evidence it's just dismissed because it doesn't fit with your initial impressions of the hack, right? If you were presented with compelling evidence would you admit that the other side could have some credence?
If the answer is, "No, I will do whatever Fox news and conservatives tell me", then just disregard and go to another post. This isn't worth your time.
Let's talk about evidence then: https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf. Would you like to discuss this or just discuss the foundation of a belief structure built on homogeneous political party consensus making and talking points?
I was saying that it is difficult to have a constructive discussion with conservatives because they insist on using information from their own spinning media alone (and yes, Fox IS main stream media, btw- more main stream than most networks). Is there anything in the pdf that would give you any pause? I am guessing not.
But similarly, I can assume that the reason you don't debate religious conservatives is because they use circular logic and evidence from sources that aren't reliable but believe no matter how strong the evidence is against their position? I feel ya. I really do.

[Daelak]

The information taken from the RNC was from an old email account several years old, so no, they don't have information on Trumps campaign. But keep repeating the propaganda, if you wish it enough and click your heels three times it will become true.

The scenario that played out was a report which had a well detailed map on how the infiltrations happened. What it didn't have was sufficient evidence to connect the dots to Russia. This was aptly pointed out by media who actually have journalistic integrity. Never mind coming from the same intelligence leadership that has been caught lying to the american people multiple times under Obama's administration.

Just because I didn't open wide for the msm bukakai hurricane, like many of you did, doesn't mean those who didn't are drinking putins kool aid. It was wise not to jump to conclusions.

While their certainly seems to be a lot of fake news running around, it will never measure up to how fake the DNC has proven itself to be. The hilarious part is watching them dodge and try to side step anyone who asks them how did their shit get to stink that bad.

They definitely do, the RNC is denying it because they don't want the political fallout, but US intelligence knows. The Russians will use it in combination with another fake news and misinformation campaign to force Trump and republicans to a weaker position in the future.

You will continue to support the actions of a hostile foreign state because you want the same thing Putin wants, chaos and weakening of the western liberal democracies hegemony over global trade.

[Shalcker]

They definitely do, the RNC is denying it because they don't want the political fallout, but US intelligence knows. The Russians will use it in combination with another fake news and misinformation campaign to force Trump and republicans to a weaker position in the future.

You will continue to support the actions of a hostile foreign state because you want the same thing Putin wants, chaos and weakening of the western liberal democracies hegemony over global trade.

Thanks, Comrade, for helping our Russian domination by maintaining divisiveness in American society and planting doubt in results of liberal democracy, as well as overplaying their vulnerability to outside influence!

Keep up the good work!

Soon in their attempt to eradicate fake news and outside influence Western world will turn into police state, and then we'll be all equal and speaking same policy language!

P.S. Also, that "moderate confidence" by NSA? That is obviously our mole. That's where we actually got all info on DNC and RNC to force them into submission regardless of election outcome, hack was a distraction!