Man calling for “peaceful ethnic cleansing” gets attacked

[Darkeon]

Get off the high horse there buddy. When somebody is calling for ethnic cleansing he loses any semblance of trying to be part of a rational discussion.

Kinda like resorting to violence when dealing with opposite ideas. I know, shocking!

[munkeyinorbit]

No one surpressed his first admendment rights. The first amendment doesnt pritect you from society checking your ass when you say something stupid. It protect you from the government arresting you.

And stated earlier, nothing is more American than punching Nazis.

I beg to differ. Isn't the constitution the basis for the whole legal framework in America? First amendment rights protect your free speech and some guy punching you in the face breaks the law, which is based on the constitution which means that punching Nazis is Un-american. Maybe you just like suppressing people, isn't that what Nazis did? So punching someone in the face sort of makes you a Nazi and is unamerican.

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Get off the high horse there buddy. When somebody is calling for ethnic cleansing he loses any semblance of trying to be part of a rational discussion.

So it's OK to just pop someone in the face because they are not in a rational discussion? That is pretty fascists. Didn't the Nazis use violence to get what they wanted?

[Cthulhu 2020]

I'm too old for memes, man.

What he meant to say was, "Are you sure you aren't part of the alt-reich?!"

I did nazi that coming.

[Ryzek]

It would also be in his rights to pull a gun and blow the brains out of the person who assualted him.

You don't attack people because you dislike them...

Yes he could do that, and I'm fine if he did that but he didn't too bad. Yes you can attack people if you dislike them but you will suffer the consequences for it, but nothing is stopping people from doing just that.

[artemishunter1]

Ahhh one of our forum racists is back. And FYI I don't think rioting and burning are OK. But unlike you I understand the underlying reasons and I don't blame it on a persons skin color. But its nice of you to come out and defend "peaceful ethnic cleansing", that good old fashioned Nazi idea where "undesirable races" would be relocated away from "us" Arians.

That you somehow believe this is OK, shows everyone exactly what sort of person you are to anyone who might have doubted everything I said about you earlier. Indeed you've gone and exceeded my worst expectations.

Oh an FYI you don't tolerate intolerance. You don't accept it. You don't normalize it. You tell anyone who believes the sort of things you do what sorts of trash they are.

would not not tolerating the black and hispanic violence fit your agenda. Are you normalizing their violence by making excuse for them? As you said it is "understandable"

[artemishunter1]

What does "Peaceful Ethnic Cleansing" even mean?

the way it is being done to white people i.e. via Tax Laws. You make it prohibitingly difficult for a particular race to reproduce though social pressure. Since, most whites are middle class, you tax them at 25% and higher, and give them no welfare or gov't help. So, they have to limit their children to 2 or less to maintain good lifestyle. While you subsidize 6 or 7 children of hispanic, arab or black race by taxing the middle class white, increasing their population, while decreasing White People. Promoting interracial dating and marriage for ONLY white people, while Ignoring all other races.

[primalmatter]

Yes he could do that, and I'm fine if he did that but he didn't too bad. Yes you can attack people if you dislike them but you will suffer the consequences for it, but nothing is stopping people from doing just that.

I just don't really get the desire to escalate violence people have. He wasn't damaging property nor calling for violence he was speaking his mind in a public venue where his idea should of been weighted and mocked.

Attacking someone for talking is just so utterly idiotic it boggles my mind. All this does is give him creedance he wouldn't have otherwise.

[Yarathir]

Seems principled to oppose this simply on the basis that suppressing opinions using physical violence seems fairly fascist and not at all like a morally upstanding thing to do, let alone someone to praise someone for.

I mean, I think Richard Spencer is a douchebag, likewise for Gazi Kodzo, but I don't condone physical violence against them based on the views they possess alone.

The moment they act on those views get physical themselves, though, that's different. But until then, I don't hit someone to punish him for unacceptable views and feel morally righteous over it.

I'm also not too happy about the precedent set by so many people on the left approving, condoning and lauding an act of violence in response to views held by one. It isn't something you can or get to apply selectively. Once we claim something that is considered a hateful view being held on its own is enough reason to get physically violent, it goes for all views or ideologies held that can be considered hateful. Can't pick and choose.

[BelziBhaal]

Yes, you do! We have images to prove it:

All it proves to me is that there's a disgusting savage out there that needs to be incarcerated for the safety of the public.

[pathora44]

the way it is being done to white people i.e. via Tax Laws. You make it prohibitingly difficult for a particular race to reproduce though social pressure. Since, most whites are middle class, you tax them at 25% and higher, and give them no welfare or gov't help. So, they have to limit their children to 2 or less to maintain good lifestyle. While you subsidize 6 or 7 children of hispanic, arab or black race by taxing the middle class white, increasing their population, while decreasing White People. Promoting interracial dating and marriage for ONLY white people, while Ignoring all other races.

You're seriously blaming minorities for this your such a tool of Trump and his kind. Blame Reaganomics and his trickle down economic ideals. The 1% get richer and richer and everyone else gets poorer and poorer. Sorry Fox News may tell you to blame all the minorities but the real problem is the 1% who own everything and continue to rake everything else in. Continue to think that minorities are getting richer and white people poorer when in fact everyone is getting poorer except for your good ole corporate overlords. They don't even need to buy off the politicians anymore the Electoral college and under a quarter of the voting population voted him in and he placed millionaires and billionaires in all his cabinet positions.

[PaterMDx]

Punching Nazis is a god damn American tradition.

Sure, being useless and getting carried around is good american tradition
Never won a war alone.

Peaceful ethnic cleansing sounds nice, but how do you move so much americans, and where? neither englang, germany, spain oder the portugese want these dellusional fucks back?
Or are these guys heading to Atlantis coz there is some oil?

[Ryzek]

I just don't really get the desire to escalate violence people have. He wasn't damaging property nor calling for violence he was speaking his mind in a public venue where his idea should of been weighted and mocked.

Attacking someone for talking is just so utterly idiotic it boggles my mind. All this does is give him creedance he wouldn't have otherwise.

I agree with what you are saying, that would have probably been the best approach. All I'm saying is that everyone has a choice on how to react and this guy decided punching the guy was the way to go and I respect that choice (and should be held responsible for his choice), but I don't necessarily agree with it, even though the gif did make me laugh.

[Anevers]

It would also be in his rights to pull a gun and blow the brains out of the person who assualted him.

You don't attack people because you dislike them...

Not perchance. Deadly force is only applicable if your life is in danger. You don't get to shoot someone dead for sucker punching you.

I beg to differ. Isn't the constitution the basis for the whole legal framework in America? First amendment rights protect your free speech and some guy punching you in the face breaks the law, which is based on the constitution which means that punching Nazis is Un-american. Maybe you just like suppressing people, isn't that what Nazis did? So punching someone in the face sort of makes you a Nazi and is unamerican.

I think you need a refresher course in the first amendment.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Again the intended idea behind the first amendment was to protect you from being jailed for speaking out against the Government. Not to protect you from you from society when you said something they find stupid.

[Mehrunes]

Because it was self-defense.

Haha, are you really throwing ethnic cleansing under the "those that disagree with you"?
Do you people have no shame?

*Butchers the concept of self-defense* "Do you people have no shame".

Just because we start shit then are too big of pussies to throw the first punch doesn't mean we are weak, *spits in the corner* YOU WANNA GO BOOMZY? THE SOUTH IS GOING TO RISE AGAIN ON YOUR DRAGON-ASS

lol okay I'm done here, im entering shitposting levels.

Kinda telling that the South can only rise again on non-existent creatures :3

[alexw]

would not not tolerating the black and hispanic violence fit your agenda. Are you normalizing their violence by making excuse for them? As you said it is "understandable"

I said you can understand why it happens. That does not mean not treating the actions as a crime. Understanding means taking actions to treat the underlying causes (reduce income inequality, tackle systemic racism, invest into the woefully underfunded schools in poor communities, etc, etc, etc) so that there is less criminals in the first place who you now have to lock up.

Everyone in society ends up benefiting - In the next generation you now have a bucket load of productive people who you don't have to pay to lock up, and who become net contributors rather than a net drain.

But of course racists like you don't care about things like that. I already know what you think on this issue given your posting history here. You think white genocide is occurring and that tells me all I need to know about you.

[Mehrunes]

-Things other dont like
-Ethnic cleansing
I think your trying to downplay what ethnic cleansing here means. Yes its illegal to assault someone nobody is denying that, but c'mon dude advocating ethnic cleansing?
His point actually makes more sense than what you write here.

Except they were replying to someone who basically denied this being assault altogether, not just it being illegal. Context is a thing and it matters. Mind = blown.

[Deleted]

People are sympathising with this nazi? That's pathetic. Spencer got what he deserved.

[Dug]

The man who assaulted him should be arrested. Just gives their side more ammo in the war of who's got the biggest shit heads (still the right) but my concern stops there. Could care less about a neo nazi getting decked.

[primalmatter]

I said you can understand why it happens. That does not mean not treating the actions as a crime. Understanding means taking actions to treat the underlying causes (reduce income inequality, tackle systemic racism, invest into the woefully underfunded schools in poor communities, etc, etc, etc) so that there is less criminals in the first place who you now have to lock up.

Everyone in society ends up benefiting - In the next generation you now have a bucket load of productive people who you don't have to pay to lock up, and who become net contributors rather than a net drain.

But of course racists like you don't care about things like that. I already know what you think on this issue given your posting history here. You think white genocide is occurring and that tells me all I need to know about you.

Where is the generation we don't have to lock up?

Crime statistics don't really back you up lad...

[artemishunter1]

You're seriously blaming minorities for this your such a tool of Trump and his kind. Blame Reaganomics and his trickle down economic ideals. The 1% get richer and richer and everyone else gets poorer and poorer. Sorry Fox News may tell you to blame all the minorities but the real problem is the 1% who own everything and continue to rake everything else in. Continue to think that minorities are getting richer and white people poorer when in fact everyone is getting poorer except for your good ole corporate overlords. They don't even need to buy off the politicians anymore the Electoral college and under a quarter of the voting population voted him in and he placed millionaires and billionaires in all his cabinet positions.

its not the minorities. Tax rates are not set by them. Its set up WHITE liberals who use the minorities are support bases, while implementing policies that benefit them at the expance of native population. Its what you get when you IMPORT poor people from cultures that have no concept of personal responsibility and duty. and yes, minorities are going to remain poor forever. Thats what their masters want. Poor people are not idealistic. They are always need driven. Poor people will worship LORD LUCIFER himself, he grants them welfare, because that what they need immediately to survive, idealism like freedom of speech is higher order need.