"1984" Sales Surge after "alternative facts"

[Deleted]

Ideologues are incredibly shortsighted and emotionall, be it repubs or denocrats.

[Spectral]

As in 1984, the goal of stating falsehoods isn't to get people to believe them, it's to humiliate people that notice they're false and can't do anything about it. There may also be a loyalty test along the lines of Point Deer Make Horse.

Of course, this is awful, but I don't see it as strikingly different from various other fastidious rejections of facts that have been noticeable over the last decade or so.

[zenkai]

blah nevermind

[Tyrianth]

Well, if Trump is getting people to buy books, it can't be all bad.

Until they get one step closer and start burning them.

[NED funded]

1. President lies
2. President tells press secretary to gather the press an lie to their faces on easily verifiable facts, even contradicting himself
3.White house official Conway justifies president and press secretary lies by stating that these are not lies, they're "alternative facts".

Everything checks out.

[RobertMugabe]

It's really ironic, considering how the whole Tumblr / Politically Correct culture is literally the embodiment of 1984. War is Peace (Islam and Unesco), Freedom is Slavery (Capitalism/Free market vs Socialism, taxation and welfare), Ignorance is Strength (free spaces, facts = 'hate speech', etc)

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Animal farm is literally the description of any socialistic regime. Even Orwell himself didn't even try to hide it.

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...are you for real?

You DO realize, that national-socialism is the leftest left there can possibly be, right? Or are you one of those people who claims that REAL SOCIALISM/COMMUNISM WERE NEVER TRIED?

This is the most retarted thing I have read in the last couple of weeks and I've read quite some dumb shit. You are embarrassing the whole human race with your bullshit.

[zoomgpally]

You DO realize, that national-socialism is the leftest left there can possibly be, right? Or are you one of those people who claims that REAL SOCIALISM/COMMUNISM WERE NEVER TRIED?

National-socialism's prime example is/was Nazi Germany, which was left(but not nearly as left as communism) on economic policy, but far right on social policy(exterminating minorities such as Jews and gays, shitting on the disabled etc)

[LaplaceNoMa]

National-socialism's prime example is/was Nazi Germany, which was left(but not nearly as left as communism) on economic policy, but far right on social policy(exterminating minorities such as Jews and gays, shitting on the disabled etc)

Are you sure you realize what is 'left' and what is 'right'? How is the things you mentioned 'far right on social policy'? You do realize that 'right' = 'individualism' and 'left = collectivism', so anything that involves anything revolving nations, races, classes etc is left in its nature from the beginning?

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This is the most retarted thing I have read in the last couple of weeks and I've read quite some dumb shit. You are embarrassing the whole human race with your bullshit.

Yes, this thought policing and level of argument is exactly what Orwell was writing about and is exactly the type of argument people were getting used to with the whole PC bullshit. Good thing it's most likely gone now and arguments will be about logic and truth, and not emotions and bandwagoning.

[s_bushido]

Are you sure you realize what is 'left' and what is 'right'? How is the things you mentioned 'far right on social policy'? You do realize that 'right' = 'individualism' and 'left = collectivism', so anything that involves anything revolving nations, races, classes etc is left in its nature from the beginning?

lol

Nationalism was never a right-wing ideology. Nope, not never not once. If you want to hold beliefs that are contrary to reality, that's your prerogative. Just try not to sound so authoritative when pulling things out of your ass. Otherwise people are just going to laugh at you.

Good thing it's most likely gone now and arguments will be about logic and truth, and not emotions and bandwagoning.

The guy who wants to call other people Nazis is going to lecture someone else for relying emotions and bandwagoning? Again: lol

[Wiyld]

Isnt the tyranny from farenheint 451 a little more reminiscent of trump? It is to me

Thats what I was thinking.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

Your source is "MSN" how about stop falling for fake news.
Also buying books isn't a bad thing but claiming "1984" heavy reading is because of Trump just makes them and you look like a fool.
1984 is the tactic the left have been using for sometime now.

How about you go read it or watch the movie version if you are lazy and take yourself out of the propaganda mind set and have a look back at the past eight years.

What source would you prefer?

https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid...84+sales+spike

[Independent voter]

1984 says more about people who try to apply it to the US than it says about the US.

[Deleted]

Oh not again... I wish that book came with an explanation piece, because so often people don't get half of the message.

Oh and also that people would use it to be goddamn self critical, because help me divine is that a rare trait at this point.

[unbound]

I wonder how many people that buy the book are actually able to read the whole thing.

I wonder how many people will actually be able to understand what it all means.

[Zecora]

Your source is "MSN" how about stop falling for fake news.

Don't you mean "alternative facts"?

-Oh, wait, it's only "alternative facts" when it comes from Trump, amrite?

[Protean]

Oh not again... I wish that book came with an explanation piece, because so often people don't get half of the message.

Oh and also that people would use it to be goddamn self critical, because help me divine is that a rare trait at this point.

Honestly, in current day western society, being self-critical is more a flaw and a defect than an ideal trait.

You're just going to be worse off than someone boisterous just blasting through the crowd taking advantage of everybody being too afraid to talk against him and screaming down those who do make a peep in his/her general direction. You get what you want and you don't feel shame because you aren't looking at yourself.

I can't think of a more American thing than shamelessness and western culture is rewarding that kind of behavior.

[Deleted]

Honestly, in current day western society, being self-critical is more a flaw and a defect than an ideal trait.

You're just going to be worse off than someone boisterous just blasting through the crowd taking advantage of everybody being too afraid to talk against him and screaming down those who do make a peep in his/her general direction. You get what you want and you don't feel shame because you aren't looking at yourself.

I can't think of a more American thing than shamelessness and western culture is rewarding that kind of behavior.

No I mean towards what we believe, what we vote, what political affiliate that we have.

[monkmastaeq]

Orwellian tactics from the establishment is not something that just popped up with Trump, Obama was one of the biggest violators of privacy and infringement upon your (and mine infact) rights, in modern western history.

You americans need to tell your leaders to stop, entirely not just when it's not your party being despots.

you can't use logic on these people, patriot act exists , but everything is trumps fault he's responsible for what bush and obama did to spy on the average citizen. Keep using facebook though guys right? its not an invasive data collecting spying tool at all

[Rooflesstoofless]

I always felt we were closer to F451 than 1984, but to each their own.

Yes it feels very 1984 right now. I'm not sure that the right-wing base is even noticing, though. My Republican friends seem to be carrying on as if nothing unusual in the slightest is happening.

It's depressing.

That boat sailed a looooong time ago with the signing of the Patriot Act.

[Molis]

I am no Trump fan, but from what I have seen Trumps policies have nothing to do with the premise of 1984.

Where do people get this shit?

Must be the new cool thing to do.