Russian critic Vladimir Kara-Murza suffers sudden organ failure

[Independent voter]

These Russian opposition leaders are some brave MFs to stand up to Putin.

Looks like the FSB poisoned another one. I don't know if the state accused him of child pornography but that is a common FSB tactic too.

I guess with all the news Trump is generating the Russians figure they can kill opposition leaders and nobody will notice.






http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38844292

A prominent Russian opposition activist has been hospitalised with organ failure, two years after he almost died of suspected poisoning.
Journalist Vladimir Kara-Murza, who works for pro-democracy group Open Russia, fell ill at about 05:00 local time (02:00 GMT).
Mr Kara-Murza's wife told the BBC she was on her way to hospital where her husband is in a medically-induced coma.
The activist nearly died when he suffered sudden kidney failure in 2015.
"He is already on life support and in a medicated coma. It's the same clinical picture [as last time]," Evgenia Kara-Murza told the BBC.
"The reason is unclear like last time. He's been active and healthy [recently]."
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The journalist's wife said he had suffered the same sudden onset of symptoms as in his previous illness.
"The ambulance took him directly to the hospital where the same medical team has since been trying to determine what is happening," she said.
"He was brought there conscious but was put in a medicated coma and on life support later, because his organs began shutting down like last time."
Mr Kara-Murza had spent the previous evening at the home of his parents-in-law.
On Wednesday he had posted a Facebook tribute to his friend Boris Nemtsov, an opposition leader and former deputy prime minister of Russia who was shot dead in February 2015.
Writing in Russian, he shared a photo of roses on the Bolshoy Moskvoretsky Bridge where Mr Nemtsov was killed, and the words: "We're here. We remember."

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Mr Kara-Murza posted a tribute to Mr Nemtsov on Facebook a day before he fell ill
No cause was ever established for Mr Kara-Murza's last illness, but tests confirmed that he had ingested a poisonous substance.
Then aged 33, he was in a coma for almost a week and struggled to communicate when he regained consciousness.
Fears were raised that the journalist could have been deliberately poisoned.
In 2015, the chief doctor at the Moscow hospital treating Mr Kara-Murza told the BBC that tests had revealed traces of an anti-depressant.
He speculated that the citalopram, which the activist was taking, may have accumulated in his body if he had a prior, undetected kidney problem.
It may also have reacted with an antihistamine Mr Kara-Murza used for hay fever.
His father rejected that theory, saying he did not believe an innocuous nasal spray could have triggered the "nuclear explosion" in his son's kidneys.

[Belize]

Oh look. Another Putin opposition has an "accident"/"illness".

Are we even surprised at this point?

[Antbregante]

I;m sure Putin will look into this death personally to make sure there was no foul play.

[Independent voter]

Oh look. Another Putin opposition has an "accident"/"illness".

Are we even surprised at this point?

The last time the Russians murdered a Russian opposition leader they used radioactive palladium, if memory serves, the KGB/FSB put it in his food.

My guess is the Russians want everyone to know they are murdering their opposition leaders, that way it suppresses opposition.

[KrazyK923]

She's just experiencing alternative organ life.

[Deleted]

That seems very unfortunate. Weird how nature do that.

[Stormspark]

The last time the Russians murdered a Russian opposition leader they used radioactive palladium, if memory serves, the KGB/FSB put it in his food.

My guess is the Russians want everyone to know they are murdering their opposition leaders, that way it suppresses opposition.

Polonium, not palladium. Polonium-210 specifically. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isotop...polonium#210Po

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poison...der_Litvinenko

It has the unique property of being purely an alpha emitter, with a stable decay product. So it can't be detected by most standard radiation detectors. Radiation detectors have to have a very specific type of probe to be able to detect it (for instance, alpha particles cannot penetrate the tube on a standard geiger counter, so without a specially designed probe it won't be detected). For a geiger counter you have to use a specially designed pancake probe to be able to detect alpha.

[Elim Garak]

Apparently Russian opposition activists are supreme beings that never get ill and don't have any serious medical conditions - so when they do get ill - it's quite obvious Putin's fault.

[Shalcker]

The last time the Russians murdered a Russian opposition leader they used radioactive palladium, if memory serves, the KGB/FSB put it in his food.

You're mixing a lot of stuff here...

Litvinenko was killed by Polonium, but that was long ago and he wasn't "opposition leader" - more like traitor that escaped with stolen documents from archives and used them for blackmail.
Last opposition leader that was murdered was Nemtsov, and he was killed with a gun.

My guess is the Russians want everyone to know they are murdering their opposition leaders, that way it suppresses opposition.

If you're opposition Russian you become completely immune to mugging, health problems, medical misdiagnosis, car accidents, only thing you have to worry about is Putin!

Hell, if meteor would fall upon one it would clearly be Putin's fault too /s

[Independent voter]

Apparently Russian opposition activists are supreme beings that never get ill and don't have any serious medical conditions - so when they do get ill - it's quite obvious Putin's fault.

Of course you're going to say that, you don't want to die.

[Aggrophobic]

Apparently Russian opposition activists are supreme beings that never get ill and don't have any serious medical conditions - so when they do get ill - it's quite obvious Putin's fault.

Yes, becuase organ just fail for no reason.
Very common.

[Flarelaine]

The last time the Russians murdered a Russian opposition leader they used radioactive palladium, if memory serves, the KGB/FSB put it in his food.

I thought the last time they did it he was gunned down on the open street in Moscow.

[Elim Garak]

Yes, becuase organ just fail for no reason.
Very common.

1. Organs can fail suddenly, but there's always a reason. Who said there's no reason? One possible reason was even mentioned in the OP.
2. One instance is not very common. You only know about it because he's a Russian opposition activist and that's the fad. Think about it. For once.

[Ahovv]

If Russia was truly behind this, they would have actually killed him, cleaner than Seth Rich-style.

[Aggrophobic]

1. Organs can fail suddenly, but there's always a reason. Who said there's no reason? One possible reason was even mentioned in the OP.
2. One instance is not very common. You only know about it because he's a Russian opposition activist and that's the fad. Think about it. For once.

Think about it, right.
*Thinking*
Yes, being "removed" seems more likely than his organs simply giving up without any indication of other medical conditions beforehand.

[Elim Garak]

Think about it, right.
*Thinking*
Yes, being "removed" seems more likely than his organs simply giving up without any indication of other medical conditions beforehand.

If you choose a conspiracy theory you are not thinking.

It's the second time he got that. So there was previous medical condition. And the first time - doctors found traces of medication that could cause that under some conditions - like hidden kidney defect.

But no scratch the expert opinion, go with the conspiracy theory, go on make a claim that doctors were paid to say that.

[Noradin]

If you're opposition Russian you become completely immune to mugging, health problems, medical misdiagnosis, car accidents, only thing you have to worry about is Putin!

Yes, the same way you become immune to damage after being killed by Ragnaros in WoW.
Unfortunately RL-Bob is on vacation currrently.

[Deleted]

If you choose a conspiracy theory you are not thinking.

It's the second time he got that. So there was previous medical condition. And the first time - doctors found traces of medication that could cause that under some conditions - like hidden kidney defect.

But no scratch the expert opinion, go with the conspiracy theory, go on make a claim that doctors were paid to say that.

The 1st time was a suspected poisoning.

[Aggrophobic]

If you choose a conspiracy theory you are not thinking.

It's the second time he got that. So there was previous medical condition. And the first time - doctors found traces of medication that could cause that under some conditions - like hidden kidney defect.

But no scratch the expert opinion, go with the conspiracy theory, go on make a claim that doctors were paid to say that.

It's not a "conspiracy theory" though.
You could call it that if it wasn't for the fact that Putin likes to remove his competitors and critics that way.

[Frood]

Another case of Russian Flu.

Where is Jessica Hyde?