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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    Already did, Still doesn't make this article and information wrong. And it still doesn't help your case that that video was true.
    Well, maybe it's true.
    Just saying, CNN and Washington post are infamous for being highly impartial to the point of tricking people to get their agenda trough and their owned by people who has clearly expressed their dislike for Donald Trump, so them attempting to frame him is not out of the question neither.

    But like Hillary's Emails, this will probably just get buried soon in the mountain of information feed overload both sides are conducting to make finding out the truth a pain in the arse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    That's strange, I've only seen the term pop up with fervor over the past couple weeks. I like to monitor word usage, it shows where people get their information. Before this morning, you have never used that term on this site, yet you've said it three times today. I have seen it pop up on two different threads in the past 24 hours, with multiple people using it. That's not a coincidence. Writers and pundits use these words on purpose, so they can shift public perception. Now, one would have to ask why you suddenly started using it, or more importantly, who you've been listening to and reading.

    Thanks for proving my point.
    Sorry that term upsets you but any quick look around would show it's a fairly common term, like shadow government, and they've been used interchangeably for years. Nothing new though it may be new to some on this site.

    That you want to obsess on it and claim it's some reason for..what I don't know...is up to you. I used it in this thread because it was apt, that's all.

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    I didn't know I'd ever live to see this: The US in the hands of a snake oil peddling gang which is more busy with itself, the campaign, ratings of shows, whack-a-moling leaks and business affairs of their families. This is worthy for a plot of a grade C afternoon crime series but not the US.
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  4. #464
    Quote Originally Posted by vexew View Post
    But like Hillary's Emails, this will probably just get buried soon in the mountain of information feed overload both sides are conducting to make finding out the truth a pain in the arse.
    Thank God for info wars amirite!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinpachi View Post
    I can tell you like to hear yourself talk, and see yourself type. Let's play a game of who can get the last word in, I'm willing to bet that you win.
    Probably.
    Anyways, do you have anything to contribute other than attacking others?

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    Quote Originally Posted by schwarzkopf View Post
    Indeed... status quo might not be perfect, but it tends to be survivable.

    Disintegrating the USA with 5000 nukes .. that's a recipe for disaster.
    Is not that what Hillary wanted to accomplish with her wanting to attack Syria with Russia backing Assad?

  7. #467
    Quote Originally Posted by Caolela View Post
    Sorry that term upsets you but any quick look around would show it's a fairly common term, like shadow government, and they've been used interchangeably for years. Nothing new though it may be new to some on this site.

    That you want to obsess on it and claim it's some reason for..what I don't know...is up to you. I used it in this thread because it was apt, that's all.
    You literally started using it this morning on this site. You never used it before, so there's a reason you decided to bring it out, now. Like I said, I like to watch how information flows, and it's clear that there is a reason for the uptick in the usage of the word. It shows how easily people can be swayed and brainwashed.

  8. #468
    Quote Originally Posted by Caolela View Post
    Nothing was said about joining Russia to fight terrorists, but you had to invent something, hmm? Any moron would know the U.S. has no interest in seeing that excuse for more wars and defense expenditure going to waste. See Syria et al. Not even a decent try, you waste of bandwidth.

    But Flynn didn't like the Iran deal, and Obama's crew was out to get him for that.

    The Clinton Neo-Libs hated him too (oh umm...that would be YOU!), after he gave them what for at the RNC:



    Lately you can't manage to have a mind at all since your girl Hillary bit the dust. Evidently, you've had to retool your grandiose plans for whatever get-rich-quick scheme you had in the wings if she'd won, and geez it must hurt. My heart goes out to you in your time of need.

    Guess you'll have to stick to your anti-Trump rallies, ice cream socials and posting on MMO-C like a rabid gerbil.
    Nothing you stated in here is factual. First off, I know I am not Skroe, but he is most certainly not a neo-liberal. He isn't a Hillary supporter at all either but he fucking HATED Trump with a passion because of how retarded Trump is. And this latest bullshit just enhances the retardedness. Also, who the fuck is that source you used?

  9. #469
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    Quote Originally Posted by schwarzkopf View Post
    1. Edited, overdubbed with propaganda ... and also they didnt' say biggest ones, they said "we couldn't have helped her more". Score : 0
    2. No CNN attribution, footage is outtakes/not to air content - not part of final result. Score : 0
    3. Fake overlay, obscuring the CNN footer ... no way to determining context due to editing.
    4. Not bothering - seems more of the same.

    When you are accusing CNN of doing something, how come you aren't linking to any CNN channels, or CNN websites.

    All the stuff about Trump is straight from the government, straight from Trump himself, straight from Trump's official people - there is no intermediate edits or crap.

    Here is Trump lying just 20 minutes ago. Notice that I'm not having to have some intermediate editing or source - I am using words stated by the person in question. Just asking you to do the same directly with CNN.



    Now, I don't know which of the two is the lie, but one of them has to be by definition.
    And why is Donald Trump wrong?

    Now it's your turn to attempt to prove something, i hope you do a better job then my videos i linked.

  10. #470
    Quote Originally Posted by vexew View Post
    Well, maybe it's true.
    Just saying, CNN and Washington post are infamous for being highly impartial to the point of tricking people to get their agenda trough and their owned by people who has clearly expressed their dislike for Donald Trump, so them attempting to frame him is not out of the question neither.

    But like Hillary's Emails, this will probably just get buried soon in the mountain of information feed overload both sides are conducting to make finding out the truth a pain in the arse.
    Oh, please, by all means. Tell me what they reported that was wrong. I will listen to CNN and Washington post over ANY right wing source, including your conspiracy theory video you posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vexew View Post
    Is not that what Hillary wanted to accomplish with her wanting to attack Syria with Russia backing Assad?
    The simple response to your question is no, it isn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vexew View Post
    Is not that what Hillary wanted to accomplish with her wanting to attack Syria with Russia backing Assad?
    No ... she didn't. That's another of the fake news stories that went around. She had suggested a no fly zone as a possible strategy to help in the fight against ISIL.

    However - fun fact - Clinton isn't president. Republicans got voted in by the few hundred US voters - Clinton is history.

    Challenge Mode : Play WoW like my disability has me play:
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    Briand and John share the same goal, same intentions - but they can't talk to each other, however they can react to each other's in game activities.
    Now see how far Brian and John get in WoW.


  13. #473
    Quote Originally Posted by chrisnumbers View Post
    Is there something that forbids them from "being in contact" with certain Russians?
    Hopefully someone here can cite some law or something, I'm no expert. I'd like to read it.
    The constitution forbids anyone other than congress and the president from dealing with foreign affairs. This extends to their staff. Flynn, Trump and company were not in official capacity to do any of this prior to inauguration.

  14. #474
    Quote Originally Posted by vexew View Post
    And why is Donald Trump wrong?
    He said A and 11 minutes later said not A ... therefore by definition he was wrong on one of those two occasions.

    Challenge Mode : Play WoW like my disability has me play:
    You will need two people, Brian MUST use the mouse for movement/looking and John MUST use the keyboard for casting, attacking, healing etc.
    Briand and John share the same goal, same intentions - but they can't talk to each other, however they can react to each other's in game activities.
    Now see how far Brian and John get in WoW.


  15. #475
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    Oh, please, by all means. Tell me what they reported that was wrong. I will listen to CNN and Washington post over ANY right wing source, including your conspiracy theory video you posted.
    And i will do the opposite, i already listed my reasons why i think their fake-news, now do yours.

  16. #476
    Quote Originally Posted by vexew View Post
    Is not that what Hillary wanted to accomplish with her wanting to attack Syria with Russia backing Assad?
    No. Because Russia knows that if they shoot off their nukes, they pretty much destroy themselves and the rest of the world. Ever heard of MAD, Mutually Assured Destruction? That is why no one has shot off any nukes against populated areas since WW2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vexew View Post
    And i will do the opposite, i already listed my reasons why i think their fake-news, now do yours.
    Probably the fact that, you think they are fake news because you are biased against them. Not that they actually reported something that is fake. You can call them fake news all you want to, but when they have been right literally the last 3 fucking weeks, they aren't fake. But then your sources, either outright ignore it or gloss over it. Simply because it doesn't fit their narrative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vexew View Post
    And why is Donald Trump wrong?

    Now it's your turn to attempt to prove something, i hope you do a better job then my videos i linked.
    20mins ago; no we didn't

    9mins ago; yes we did but that information wasn't supposed to get out

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    Quote Originally Posted by schwarzkopf View Post
    He said A and 11 minutes later said not A ... therefore by definition he was wrong on one of those two occasions.
    Yes, but which one of those statements?
    Is he a Russian plant or not?

  19. #479
    Quote Originally Posted by vexew View Post
    i already listed my reasons why i think their fake-news, now do yours.
    We aren't interested in what you think - that's not how you determine fake news. What is required is evidence.

    For those interested - I have one example of fake news that did make the rounds of CNN/NBC etc, and never got corrected. Fox news was the only one to fix the error.

    Trump did NOT insult a disabled reporter ... that was a fabrication by omission.

    However - a bowl of 1000 green marbles and 2 red marbles isn't a bowl of red marbles.

    Trump is 80% lies, that's around 4 times the level of the worst liars in US political history.

    Challenge Mode : Play WoW like my disability has me play:
    You will need two people, Brian MUST use the mouse for movement/looking and John MUST use the keyboard for casting, attacking, healing etc.
    Briand and John share the same goal, same intentions - but they can't talk to each other, however they can react to each other's in game activities.
    Now see how far Brian and John get in WoW.


  20. #480
    Quote Originally Posted by vexew View Post
    Yes, but which one of those statements?
    Is he a Russian plant or not?
    It's just more evidence that Trump is a liar. Either the news is fake, or the news got leaked, it can't be both. Let me know when that sinks in.

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