Anyone know whats happening in Sweden?

[ExileOC]

Its not even less immigration, educate yourself. obama flooded america with people. many of which have diseases. Mumps, measles and TB have been popping up all over. We want controlled immigration. People need to be tested for diseases. People need background checks, which these 7 countries are unstable with a severe lack of information on immigrants to properly vet them.

His "muslim" ban didnt ban 9 of the top 10 muslim populated countries, why? because theyre countries where we have more imformation to vet people.

Building a wall and blocking all immigration for a few years wouldve been my answer. We cant help others until we fix our home. We have 95 million americans out of the work force many of whom mooch off the government. Lets get these people educated and back to work first before we help others. Thats my opinion but no one would go that far.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ople-out-work/

[caervek]

Haha, talk about comical:

'Trump Was Right': While the media was busy Monday trying to dismiss Trump's claims of troubles in Sweden. Migrants Riot, Loot, Fight With Police And Set Cars On Fire In Sweden

http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=56298

[Deleted]

I love how people are just whining about Trump while sweden is in flames . Classic sjws.

[TITAN308]

About as smart as Trump's answer.

And good luck paying for that wall. Because now it's to be the taxpayers' burden to pay for it...LOL. (Congress has already said "Hell no!" to that.)

I'm curious as I honestly don't know the answer.

Is the cost of a wall greater than what is already spent on illegal aliens?

I see various reports citing over 100 billion for federal, state, and local (edit: annually). However I don't know if these are accurate or not.

Also another question, does anyone have any reports on how much it will cost to maintain the wall?

[zenkai]

Meanwhile in the USA:

Did that happen on not my presidents day?

[alexw]

I can relate. The British NHS has been struggling recently and for certain things, our public healthcare has had to pay for me to be treated with private hospital equipment, because public hospitals couldn't afford the fancy shit.

But, all of Sweden's problems with housing, social services and healthcare are not going to be made any better by suddenly taking in the equivalent of 1.4% of your population. Many of whom do not speak the language, will take several months or years to start contributing to tax revenue (if ever, since many will be to old to work) and are likely to increase the population size more rapidly than the people who are already there because of higher birthrates.

Then, there's all the crime statistics (and authorities attempting to cover them up and speak in half-truths).

That is because of the aging population. The number of people in their 70's, 80's, and 90's is skyrocketing due to the aging of the baby boomer wave. It has nothing to do with immigration. If anything immigration is countering this trend as it raises the number of taxable working age people relative to the very old.

[zenkai]

I'm curious as I honestly don't know the answer.

Is the cost of a wall greater than what is already spent on illegal aliens?

I see various reports citing over 100 billion for federal, state, and local. However I don't know if these are accurate or not.

Also another question, does anyone have any reports on how much it will cost to maintain the wall?

I wondered that myself.

[alexw]

Its not even less immigration, educate yourself. obama flooded america with people. many of which have diseases. Mumps, measles and TB have been popping up all over. We want controlled immigration. People need to be tested for diseases. People need background checks, which these 7 countries are unstable with a severe lack of information on immigrants to properly vet them.

His "muslim" ban didnt ban 9 of the top 10 muslim populated countries, why? because theyre countries where we have more imformation to vet people.

Building a wall and blocking all immigration for a few years wouldve been my answer. We cant help others until we fix our home. We have 95 million americans out of the work force many of whom mooch off the government. Lets get these people educated and back to work first before we help others. Thats my opinion but no one would go that far.

Delusional nutjob nonsense. It's so chock full of lies and things that are utterly wrong that I'm not going to even bother, as I would have to correct just about every statement you have made.

[TITAN308]

Other reports seem to indicate that a wall might actually make migration problems even worse. Who would want to pay a fortune for a wall while it would cause even higher illegal immigration numbers?

What is the general ideas the reports are stating?

For face value that doesn't seem to make sense.

[Zeth Hawkins]

Here are some general numbers for your perusal. Make of them what you will.

https://www.bra.se/bra/bra-in-englis...-offences.html

https://www.bra.se/bra/bra-in-englis...slaughter.html

[Aggrophobic]

I move to China. I gain citizenship. I'm American-born, speak English, green eyed and brown haired. Next to me is Huang, a Chinese native and a street vendor. He looks the part, sells pork buns and speaks flawless Mandarin. His family's lived there for the last 500 years.

Are you really saying Huang and me are both Chinese? That you're unable to make the distinction between what is actually a Chinese person and someone who is simply a citizen of the People's Republic?

If you have a swedish citizenship, you are swedish.
No idea how they do things in China.

[Deleted]

Probably trump needs to build walls in planes then as well.

That will help. Solution found. Really great!

[Deleted]

We are all surprised in Sweden. We have no idea wtf Drumpf is talking about as there was no major happening at all yesterday.

The situation is what it is, regarding immigration, but there was no special thing happening yesterday.

Hello, I'm just posting in this thread now after migrants riot in Sweden xD. You must feel so dumb now hahaha

[Deleted]

It was tore down, the reason the poltician got arrested was because he protested it. And I don't think I said jailed, I said arrested.

The second link is a police officer that patrolled with Springare during this period that refutes his claim and says that 90% of the people they apprehended were white.

You wrote jailed and you left out details such as Springare took no part in his ""arrest"" (he was never charged), other than calling, according to your article only a few minutes after this ""arrest"" to tell the officers to let him go.

Also why is a retired cops' opinion more valid than an active one?

[Nitro Fun]

If you have a swedish citizenship, you are swedish.
No idea how they do things in China.

I don't understand why you people ignore that ethnicities exist. A somali doesn't become not somali just because they have left somalia. They'll remain somali no matter where they move. Their ethnicity does not change just because they reside in another location.

Nationality is not ethnicity.

The chinese people aren't going to call me chinese just because I obtain citizenship there, they would be calling me thai or malay or both due to my ethnicity.

[Karfal]

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ople-out-work/

Thanks for proving my point?

[Dezerte]

I don't understand why you people ignore that ethnicities exist. A somali doesn't become not somali just because they have left somalia. They'll remain somali no matter where they move. Their ethnicity does not change just because they reside in another location.

I wonder...

Is someone from Somalia and their future generations doomed to forever be Somali? I mean, when does this change take place that changes their ethnicity? Is it when their skin becomes pale, when they dance around a maypole or is it when they eat meatballs and assemble IKEA furniture in their sleep?

If we want to get real technical, our ancestors came from Africa and did some sexy time with the Neanderthals.

[Nitro Fun]

Is someone from Somalia and their future generations doomed to forever be Somali?

If they mix with other populations, then no. If they stick only to other somalis, then yes.

I don't understand why you call it "doomed" though, you should be proud of what you are.

[Deleted]

Obligatory 'rape is classified differently in Sweden to other countries' comment.

Well ofcourse this is relevant. If you get raped every single day for an entire year in India, and report it, it counts as 1 crime. In Sweden thats 365 crimes. Read this yesterday in "Dagens Nyheter".
Here is a source aswell, in English. We have a different mindset in Sweden where reporting a rape is more okay than in in other countries. We also have a wider definition of what a rape is here than other countries. http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-19592372

[Deleted]

Well ofcourse this is relevant. If you get raped every single day for an entire year in India, and report it, it counts as 1 crime. In Sweden thats 365 crimes. Read this yesterday in "Dagens Nyheter".
Here is a source aswell, in English. We have a different mindset in Sweden where reporting a rape is more okay than in in other countries. We also have a wider definition of what a rape is here than other countries. http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-19592372

This is false. You have to make a report about each of the rapes separately. Close to Nobody is going to sit there and make 365 reports if they were raped daily for a year.

You can look at the increase in sex crimes though, sex crimes has increased. The increase in rapes is largely because of definition changes, the increase in sex crimes however is not.

It's not more okay here than in usa. We have similar reporting rates. 10-20%.

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I wonder...

Is someone from Somalia and their future generations doomed to forever be Somali? I mean, when does this change take place that changes their ethnicity? Is it when their skin becomes pale, when they dance around a maypole or is it when they eat meatballs and assemble IKEA furniture in their sleep?

If we want to get real technical, our ancestors came from Africa and did some sexy time with the Neanderthals.

When you look swedish you can be called swedish.