I like how all of the usual military hurrah people are so ready to turn on this man's father because he believes a poor decision was made.
I like how all of the usual military hurrah people are so ready to turn on this man's father because he believes a poor decision was made.
Originally Posted by spinner981
No, you just seem to ignore what execute means.
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Yes, and what was the difference between Obama not signing the order and Trump doing it? Obama didn't sign it because time wasn't right, while Trump did. There is nothing to say that Obama would have signed it then, but sure as hell its obvious who did sign it.
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Hey now! If this was someone saying the attack was on those planning "terrorist acts" instead of planning "acts of terror", then we'd have several hearings on it, like Benghazi.
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Cindy Sheehan demanded to meet with Bush, even protesting in front of his ranch in Texas. Bush also had a ban on media showing coffins coming back from the war.
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
How do you know why Obama didnt sign it? You dont think military leaders told Trump just like they would have told Obama, the time is now, we need to do this? Neither Obama/Trump are military leaders. At the time, Trump had the same advisers Obama had. Blaming Trump is a political move and its sickening..
Bullshit! Obama explicitly didn't sign because the time wasn't right. I'm not suggesting why the time wasn't right, but it's blatant that it wasn't... because... gasp! He didn't sign it! Also, Flynn was not Obama's National Security advisor at that time, but was in fact fired years prior. Then had to resign under Trump for lying...
So no, blaming Obama or pretending this is just political, when he explicitly didn't sign it, is just blind defense of Trump.
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
We are at a point that Trump being blamed for signing an order is unfair, because Obama didn't sign it. This is the logic we are dealing with... blame Obama, because by all indications, he knew better than to sign it...
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Yeah, let's hope Tump's whole rhetoric that the previous administration was too soft on terror and we need more swift justice, will only be expressed once.
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
Im not blaming Obama. What I said was you dont know why Obama didnt sign it. Maybe the time wasnt right when he was in office and he was never approached with it. We dont know. All we know is that military leaders decided the time was right when they advised Trump to go ahead with the mission. What is he supposed to do, say no, to people who have been doing this their entire career? Do you think Obama would have gone against their advice? Of course not. The thing that this father is saying, is that if his son was killed while Obama was in office, he would have met him but because its Trump hes not. And ok, thats fine but dont make it into this big ordeal. Its embarrassing to his sons death.
Go run to the bathroom and look in the mirror, because you're going to be staring at a dude who just accused a grieving military father of politicizing his son's death. Did you read the article? Maybe check out a few of this father's points? He's causing embarrassment to his son's death? This is gross and you should be ashamed.
How? The only reason that the Obama Administration did not go through with the mission is because they were waiting for a moonless night, a night that wouldnt be available until Trump took over. The father is an embarrassment, want to know why? Because his son followed the Commander in Chiefs orders and did what he was supposed to do. This is disgusting. You obviously have never been in a Combat Military Arms unit before. Well I have, we are a different breed and this, this is disgusting.
This is not mourning, you do that in private.
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Wrong, they were waiting for a moonless night, a night that if had occurred while Obama was still in office would have went into effect. However, the first moonless night wasnt until Trump took over.
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
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