4.3 million HP DPS, Gear MATTERS!

[Saverem]

I'm at 9% increase in stats at 896 on my demon hunter and I have 3.3 million in BGs. Find it hard to believe a frost dk had 4.3 million dps, even if he did have 910-920 equipped.

I have the same ilvl and stat increase on my WW and I'm at 2.99 million. The HP templates vary from class to class. I know Warriors and DKs have more HP than the average player while Rogues and Mages have less than the average.

[Deleted]

Please stop with this over 35 traits give more hp/dmg.. they dont period.. your hp doesn't move after 34 traits.. that's a fact.. only way for it to go up is by ilvl and that's barely.. as MM 2.710m vs 2.740m (roughly) that is at 890 vs 900 ilvl

[Kagthul]

Please stop with this over 35 traits give more hp/dmg.. they dont period.. your hp doesn't move after 34 traits.. that's a fact.. only way for it to go up is by ilvl and that's barely.. as MM 2.710m vs 2.740m (roughly) that is at 890 vs 900 ilvl

wrong. asked and answered on the Blizzard dev twitter. As of 7.1 you get the .75% stam for all traits, all the way to 54.

Try to keep up.

[Soisoisoi]

wrong. asked and answered on the Blizzard dev twitter. As of 7.1 you get the .75% stam for all traits, all the way to 54.

Try to keep up.

Pretty sure they reverted that and kept it at 34 due to the whining.

[Deleted]

wrong. asked and answered on the Blizzard dev twitter. As of 7.1 you get the .75% stam for all traits, all the way to 54.

Try to keep up.

You get more hp, but not 0.75 % it seemed to be a lineary 15k I believe for every trait after 35 from personal testing.

Edit could also be 25k been some time since I checked it out

[Charge me Doctor]

you sure it wasn't a fury warrior? It's hard to take them apart, both of them are melee, both have empty resource bar, both of them use two weapons...
Seriously, if you were as shocked as you pretend here to be, you would have made a screenshot, now it's just your word against elses

[FelPlague]

Sorry I forgot to take a screen shot but the guy was decked out in Mythic raid gear ..

that still wouldent matter, he prob had a fuck ton of buffs

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wrong. asked and answered on the Blizzard dev twitter. As of 7.1 you get the .75% stam for all traits, all the way to 54.

Try to keep up.

pvp only counts to 34 right now (mind showing a source for this "they confirmed it will go to 54" because they planned to but feedback stopped them
and 0.75% stamina is not a 0.75% health increase because you have alot of base health just for being level 110 that doesent come from stam

[Kagthul]

Pretty sure they reverted that and kept it at 34 due to the whining.

No, what you're thinking about is that they were going to enable the Paragon trait (the extra 5-10% damage, 10-20% armor, or 5-10% healing).

They dropped that.

The stamina gain for ALL 54 traits was in since launch, the tooltip just said it stopped at 34 (it did not), the tooltip was corrected in 7.1

Seriously, go look at the tooltip. It no longer says it stops at 34, it merely sais "Stamina increased by .75% for every trait purchased."

Period.

It applies in PvP, because its a flat buff to your template.

I seriously (check the last page) just checked on my Hunter. 34 traits on MM weapon - 54 on BM weapon.. sure enough roughly 15% stam difference. (a bit off because BM gets a slightly higher base stam on its template).

[Deleted]

So I just tested it out on the warrior .. Had trait 39 ready to go to 40.

Base health no gear 431k
3749k in pvp - went to 3749k
3675 in none pvp - went to 3695k after

Confirmed not increasing hp in pvp sorry Kagthul .. WRONG again

[shoegazing]

maybe a few % doesn't matter much in casual but it is a HUGE disparity in rated, the difference between a win and a loss

[Kagthul]

So I just tested it out on the warrior .. Had trait 39 ready to go to 40.

Base health no gear 431k
3749k in pvp - went to 3749k
3675 in none pvp - went to 3695k after

Confirmed not increasing hp in pvp sorry Kagthul .. WRONG again

Glad the game is working differently for you, then. Ive seen it on all 5 of my characters, and Blue posts outright confirm it. Maybe you should report the bug.

[Deleted]

Glad the game is working differently for you, then. Ive seen it on all 5 of my characters, and Blue posts outright confirm it. Maybe you should report the bug.

Maybe you should test your stuff before speaking out.

[Kagthul]

Maybe you should test your stuff before speaking out.

I have. What part of that is hard for you to grasp?

If it isn't working for you, you should report it as a bug. Blue posts from several devs, including Holinka, and tweets from WarcrafteDevs. You are supposed to get the stam gain all the way 54.

How about this? You can join the rest of the drivelbrigade on ignore.

[Cempa]

that still wouldent matter, he prob had a fuck ton of buffs

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pvp only counts to 34 right now (mind showing a source for this "they confirmed it will go to 54" because they planned to but feedback stopped them
and 0.75% stamina is not a 0.75% health increase because you have alot of base health just for being level 110 that doesent come from stam

A poster on the first page said at +900 with x1 stam buff his HP is also 4.3 million.

[Crruor]

I have. What part of that is hard for you to grasp?

If it isn't working for you, you should report it as a bug. Blue posts from several devs, including Holinka, and tweets from WarcrafteDevs. You are supposed to get the stam gain all the way 54.

How about this? You can join the rest of the drivelbrigade on ignore.

They disabled the 54 trait thingy after 2 days of 7.1.5 or so.

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Irony here is that tanks have less HP.... and dont have any better mitigation in (instanced) PvP (in fact, its often worse).

Figure that shit out.

Dont generalize like that, a prot paladin has absurd heals/survivability (in fact prot pala/dps 2s teams last longer then most healer/dps teams do). So it really isnt true for all tanks.

[Sephronz]

My main is a ilvl 887 Assassination Rogue with just under 3.1m hp.

I have the 10% extra health honor talent.

If Operation Murloc is up, you can get the flower buff there that gives 15% stats I think

Going through Suramar and feeding the Nightborne mana addicts gives you a 10% health buff that can stack up to 5 = 50%

Add in a Potion of Prolonged Power and my rogue is suddenly rocking around 5m health ... and thats not including using a stamina flask.

Think thats crazy ... ive seen a bear tank once rocking over 8m health.

[FelPlague]

A poster on the first page said at +900 with x1 stam buff his HP is also 4.3 million.

And what class is that person?
Also you forget. Where you both frost dks? Or was he a frost dk. And you a mage. Of course he's gunna have much more health. Are you 810 and have literally done 0 content? Well you would still only be about 10-12% weaker then him

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I have. What part of that is hard for you to grasp?

If it isn't working for you, you should report it as a bug. Blue posts from several devs, including Holinka, and tweets from WarcrafteDevs. You are supposed to get the stam gain all the way 54.

How about this? You can join the rest of the drivelbrigade on ignore.

Except you haven't. Because your a liar. It was only active for a day or two until they reverted the change because lashback

[Deleted]

Except you haven't. Because your a liar. It was only active for a day or two until they reverted the change because lashback

I'm fairly certain it actually does increase stamina beyond 34 in PvE... PvP is another matter.

Regardless of that; 4,3mio HP... how the heck does a dps obtain that much?
I'm about ilvl 900 and i only sum up to 3.3.

[FelPlague]

I'm fairly certain it actually does increase stamina beyond 34 in PvE... PvP is another matter.

Regardless of that; 4,3mio HP... how the heck does a dps obtain that much?
I'm about ilvl 900 and i only sum up to 3.3.

thats what were talking about, in pvp
also people can gain 4,3 based on their class, spec, and some honor talents increase health
but his gear is not giving him "cheating 2 million more hp" in pvp

[Sencha]

Yay another pvp whining thread from Cempa. Can't wait for the next one in 3 days.