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  1. #401
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stacyrect View Post
    Keep using the word foreign agent, it totally doesn't make you look like a kool aid drunk sycophant.
    First of all, that's two words.

    Second of all, you do know this is an official classification and we're not the ones inventing i, right?. He has to register and everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triggered Fridgekin View Post
    I'm having a hard time trying to think of what it would take for something to actually happen against Trump which would be universally hated which could jeopardize his presidency. Then I would wonder how long it would take President Pence to pardon Trump of all offenses and grant him some kind of immunity.


    Donnys wh0res will never leave him, Donny himself have said he could shoot someone on 5th avenue and not lose any support. Remember this folks when someday in the future they will claim oh we where never supporting donny. remember who those people where that endangered the country with voting for donny, It isnt like what happen wasnt warned about before the election.

  3. #403
    @Skroe

    What do you make of this?

    http://abcnews.go.com/International/...orted-46381149

    Supposedly protests going on in Russia. There was apparently a live stream showing off the protests along with a massive amount of riot police. If more comes out on Trump and he is eventually impeached / replaced, how do you think sanctions will affect them? Or more specifically, how will the Russian government react you think, as I can see protests like these becoming more common place.

  4. #404
    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    If they are useless then surely Russia doesn't care if they stay in place.
    But we sure love to rub it against West :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    Useless sanctions are useless; they completely failed to achieve stated goals, and they are kept because West doesn't like to own their failures.

    This "putting pressure" is more of "admit your defeat".
    How do you know they are useless?

  6. #406
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    Scott Adams sums it up perfectly

    Seeing as how the brainwashed left have been completely indoctrinated to believe that apparently Russia are the enemy now, let's review both the left's and Donald Trump's proven interactions with Russia.

    First, the left:

    * Hillary Clinton sold 20% of the US's uranium capacity to Russia.
    * Shortly after this, Bill Clinton received half a million dollars for a speech in Russia.
    * Russian money flowed into the Clinton Foundation during the time period of the uranium deal.
    * Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman, John Podesta, bought 75,000 shares in Uranium One, the Russian company who benefited from the uranium deal.
    * The Podesta Group received $170,000 to lobby on behalf of Russia's largest bank, Sberbank. Sberbank has a reputation for close ties to Russian President Vladimir Putin and to Russian intelligence services.
    * Obama was caught on an open mic secretly saying he could be more flexible with Russia after the election.

    Now Donald Trump:

    * Wants to work closer with Russia on mutual goals such as defeating ISIS.

    Given all of the above, it seems incredible that the left are still pushing an anti-Russia narrative. And even more incredible is the fact that large chunks of the brainwashed public are still falling for it!


    The tweet couldn't have summed it up better. If the brainwashed left want to paint Russia as the enemy, then why hasn't Hillary Clinton been charged with treason? Wouldn't selling uranium to the enemies of America constitute treason?

    And if Russia aren't the enemy, as Hillary Clinton presumably herself acknowledged when she approved the uranium deal, then why is it a bad idea to work with Russia to defeat ISIS?

    Of course the whole point of the Russia hysteria from the left is to use it as an excuse for Hillary Clinton losing the election. To claim that Russia were behind the leaked Podesta emails which revealed the dishonesty and corruption of Hillary Clinton, Obama, and the Clinton campaign team.

    Let's be clear, Julian Assange and Craig Murray have repeatedly stated that the Podesta emails didn't come from the Russian government. Do we trust the word of Wikileaks with their ten year record of authenticity? Or do we trust the word of proven liars like Obama, John Brennan, and James Clasper?

    And just as importantly, it can't be stated enough times that everything Wikileaks released was 100% accurate. If the truth damaged Hillary's campaign, that's on her.

    Whoever leaked the Podesta emails is a hero. They helped expose lies. They helped expose corruption. This is what investigative journalists used to do back in the days when journalism was a profession with integrity. The person who leaked the emails is a hero, just as the journalists who exposed Watergate were heroes.

    The anti-Russia narrative being pushed by the left needs to stop. America and Russia share the goal of defeating ISIS. Why is working together with Russia to defeat ISIS such a bad thing?

    And again, if the left remain so keen to paint Russia as the enemy, then why did Hillary Clinton approve the uranium deal?

    Once again, the anti-Russia hysteria needs to stop. It is being fed to gullible sheep looking to validate the things they believe which have no basis in truth and reality. Look again at the list of proven interactions with Russia, then take a look at the following quote which the left may find familiar:

    "The 1980s called, and they want their foreign policy back."

  7. #407
    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Heh, the second story that no conversations are happening with regards to replacing Ryan makes me chuckle. Trump can try to influence people by having Fox News tell them shit all he wants, they aren't Trump. He's the only genius who's that suggestible.
    Yeah, he can keep trying to spin it all he likes. It's not working. Outside of the most partisan and cultists (most people are incapable of realizing they have joined a cult, no one wakes up and says "I wanna join a cult today") his rhetoric is not working.

    It is actively being flung back on his face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MysticSnow View Post
    How do you know they are useless?
    Do you remember why they were put in place? Were those goals met, or even seen any moves in that direction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulslaver View Post
    Scott Adams sums it up perfectly
    Because working with Russia against ISIS, or making deals with them and selling them stuff completely out in the open is totally the same thing as conspiring with them to manipulate the election, right?
    Last edited by Stormspark; 2017-03-26 at 04:40 PM.

  10. #410
    Quote Originally Posted by Soulslaver View Post
    Scott Adams sums it up perfectly
    It takes 5 seconds to fact check this nonsense, honestly you Trumpettes lie more than you tell the truth these days.

    http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinto...m-russia-deal/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    Do you remember why they were put in place? Were those goals met, or even seen any moves in that direction?
    Its right there on the name.

    Yes, Russia's economy took a big hit the following years

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    Quote Originally Posted by For_The_Horde View Post
    It takes 5 seconds to fact check this nonsense, honestly you Trumpettes lie more than you tell the truth these days.

    http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinto...m-russia-deal/
    You're talking to people who think the gold standard in reporting (the NYT) is lying and Alex Jones is telling the truth.
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  13. #413
    Quote Originally Posted by MysticSnow View Post
    Its right there on the name.
    Name of what exactly? :P
    There are several "personal" sanctions freezing US assets for people who shouldn't have had any in the first place, there are loan limits for companies that can pay every loan back, and then there is restriction on oil technology that would make drilling in Arctic harder - drilling that isn't profitable at current oil prices anyway...

    Yes, Russia's economy took a big hit the following years
    Mostly from oil, not from sanctions - and it is projected to grow this year despite them.

  14. #414
    Daily fear bait post #94 since Trump got sworn in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akaihiryuu View Post
    Because working with Russia against ISIS
    Thats one of Trumps goals and what he said. Glad you agree


    or making deals with them and selling them stuff completely out in the open
    Not really open when tons of money gets tunneled to the foundation in exchange for political favours. Its called corruption.
    Or can you else explain how the Clintons made over 240 million? What product were they selling?

    is totally the same thing as conspiring with them to manipulate the election, right?
    You dont have proof for that. What we have proof for however is, as stated in the article "* Obama was caught on an open mic secretly saying he could be more flexible with Russia after the election."

    Sounds like conspiring to me.

    You lost again. Sad story.

  16. #416
    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Rub what ever you want. The sanctions stay in place.
    Until they don't, sooner or later. No rush.

  17. #417
    Quote Originally Posted by Soulslaver View Post
    Thats one of Trumps goals and what he said. Glad you agree




    Not really open when tons of money gets tunneled to the foundation in exchange for political favours. Its called corruption.
    Or can you else explain how the Clintons made over 240 million? What product were they selling?



    You dont have proof for that. What we have proof for however is, as stated in the article "* Obama was caught on an open mic secretly saying he could be more flexible with Russia after the election."

    Sounds like conspiring to me.

    You lost again. Sad story.
    Since when do you Trumpers give 2 damns, 5 shits or 9 fucks about proof? You've never once required it when complaining about Hillary or Obama. You never once cared about proof when it comes to crap that comes out of Trump's mouth.
    Last edited by Bodakane; 2017-03-26 at 05:26 PM.
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  18. #418
    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    He tweeted about it again today blaming the Freedom Caucus... It's so funny that the master negotiator(who couldn't negotiate for @DonaldTrump) is blaming everyone else for this failure... including his son in law for going on a ski trip.
    He's a narcissist. I think he might be incapable of any real self reflection. If this was your average person, no one would pay him the time of day because he is a ridiculous person.

    Sadly, he is now both ridiculous and the most powerful man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodakane View Post
    Since when do you Trumpers give 2 damns, 5 shits or 9 fucks about proof? You've never once required it when complaining about Hillary or Obama. You never once cared about proof when it comes out of Trump's mouth.
    Wrong. We have proof, it's called the flawless record of wikileaks. This then gets foul mouthed by you guys because it exposes the severe corruption of the establishment you are shilling for, making you complicit in their crimes. You guys think brown nosing the corrupt elites will give you valuable brownie points, which is sad.

  20. #420
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    Name of what exactly? :P
    There are several "personal" sanctions freezing US assets for people who shouldn't have had any in the first place, there are loan limits for companies that can pay every loan back, and then there is restriction on oil technology that would make drilling in Arctic harder - drilling that isn't profitable at current oil prices anyway...

    Mostly from oil, not from sanctions - and it is projected to grow this year despite them.
    You asked me if I remeber why they were put in place? To punish Russia economically. An economic sanction. Its on the name.

    If prices remain stable. Current projections for oil prices are not looking good, with shale oil taking over and various megaprojects to meet completition this year and the following one. Also the sanctions still played an effect in worsening the situation.

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