[7.3] Azortharion's Hunter Guides

[Krazzorx]

How will the crafted legendary compare when we can finally craft it for each spec since it does have 3 gem slots?

[Azortharion]

Interesting to see if Azor will start giving a shit about BM now that it's significantly ahead of MM in every single target fight in NH.

You're representing BM players pretty well as always.

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How will the crafted legendary compare when we can finally craft it for each spec since it does have 3 gem slots?

Will add to legendary sims for all specs.

[Chelly]

So, first off sorry for being a lazy bum, I cba reading 700 pages - but are Carrion birds, scorpids, and riverbeasts still the best pets for Survival hunters? Or did they fix the extra mongoose bite proc thing from their 2nd abilities?

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How will the crafted legendary compare when we can finally craft it for each spec since it does have 3 gem slots?

3 gems =450 mastery, so I guess they will still be behind even Heal helm and pants as they got +700s crit.

[JoshuaNLG]

So, first off sorry for being a lazy bum, I cba reading 700 pages - but are Carrion birds, scorpids, and riverbeasts still the best pets for Survival hunters? Or did they fix the extra mongoose bite proc thing from their 2nd abilities?

It was fixed, you can pretty much go with whatever pet you want.

[Eapoe]

3 gems =450 mastery, so I guess they will still be behind even Heal helm and pants as they got +700s crit.

The basic concept is that they are a giant stat stick and depending on what legendary items you have they can still be a decent addition to what you are running. If they sim decent they could be an alternative to running KJ, for example, and frees up a trinket slot for better performance.
Mainly I think the crafted legendaries are for alts or new(ish) players, but with stat sticks being high up, they could be decent.
Main issue is definitely going to be losing the ability to run 2p tier 19 and 4p tier 20. This is also the reason I'm not too upset about the nerf/change in 7.2.5 to BM shoulders.

[Azortharion]

The leggo sim is updated with Vigilance Perch. It's second-worst.

[Chelly]

It was fixed, you can pretty much go with whatever pet you want.

Coolio, thanks.

[Tycondriel]

The leggo sim is updated with Vigilance Perch. It's second-worst.

Hey Azor - I wanted to confirm the data that was updated on Icy Veins today. It appears as though the Apex Predator's Claw jumped up quite a bit. Based on the hotfixes that I saw, I don't guess I understand why it went ahead of the trinket and especially the boots. Is this accurate?

Thanks!
Uniel

[Skul]

Hey Azor - I wanted to confirm the data that was updated on Icy Veins today. It appears as though the Apex Predator's Claw jumped up quite a bit. Based on the hotfixes that I saw, I don't guess I understand why it went ahead of the trinket and especially the boots. Is this accurate?

Thanks!
Uniel

I have the same question. Have sims changed / been updated? I do not see the reason why the boots suddenly drop below the ring. I am sure there IS a reason, I just don't see it.

[Qman]

I have the same question. Have sims changed / been updated? I do not see the reason why the boots suddenly drop below the ring. I am sure there IS a reason, I just don't see it.

May be because ring improves Thunderlash damage?

[Hatexon]

May be because ring improves Thunderlash damage?

Didn't Thunderlash get nerfed recently and Cobra commander get buffed?

[Eapoe]

Didn't Thunderlash get nerfed recently and Cobra commander get buffed?

Yes, but it still improves the damage. Also, I'm not running the sims or writing the guide, it's possible this was summed before the nerf.
Although, does anyone know of the ring also buffs the snakes from CC?

[ma73]

Hey, i got a few questions(asked in discord but there was a lot of different answers and people raged @ me with "read guide", which i have and yet am still unsure.
1. is it worth delaying titan's thunder and BW to use them at the same time.
2. pretty much depends on the answers for the 1st question, but if you end up using them both on CD, should i just macro them together?

thanks so much, I've read the guide, I just could not see anything about delaying it or not, i know it says to use it on CD but i play DH and know how strong stacking cds can become.

[HappyLuckBox]

Is it more important to prolong the duration of dire frenzy by staggering it so that we can have more uptime on multiple stacks, especially during aspect of the wild,

OR

Is it more important to not waste bestial wrath cooldown reduction when BW is say less than 5 seconds from coming off CD?

I often come into situations where BW is a few seconds from coming off CD, but my 3 stacks of dire frenzy are about to drop, and I'm unsure if I should cast dire frenzy to maintain the 3 stacks, but waste a potential 20+ seconds of BW Cooldown Reduction.

[Beardymess]

SV Question:

Any reason to take AI over WotM with Echoes of Ohn'ara? Damage is between 1-2%, because i am not using FS that much..

[Khrux]

SV Question:

Any reason to take AI over WotM with Echoes of Ohn'ara? Damage is between 1-2%, because i am not using FS that much..

Echoes is a pretty small overall % of dmg done, something like 4% max with optimal Mok'nathal useage(90%+).

Flanking Strike should be your 2nd highest contributor at 12-15%. It has strong synergy with the t19 4pc, allowing a lower mastery cap for more haste/crit/vers and is your 2nd hardest hitting ability. Its value is pretty consistent in terms of DpE, cdr on vital skills and itself, plus mongoose generation.

Even with Echoes, I'd still consider AI/WotM personal choice. WotM is actually a stronger AoE talent.

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you should ask in discord where people with an actual clue will help you ^^

[Deleted]

Hi all

I'm new on this forum. forgive me if ask you somes things are still exist.
I'd like to know if the MM spec is always good for raid encounter in Nightold.
I don't like to play BM or Survival spec.

Another question. I will playing horde soon which race are good for MM. I choose a Blood elf ?

[Rehija]

MM is always good at every Raid, sometimes more, sometimes less. You are doing nothing wrong when playing Marks, and when we look at the ongoing Nerf and Buffs stay with the specc you like and have fun

Troll or Belf in my opinion. The racials are so close to one another that it doesnt make any real difference, BUT !, when playing Belf NEVER ! choose Male. NEVER !