Alberta man gets 4.5 years in prison in sex tourism case

[Tennis]

An Alberta man has been handed a four-and-a-half year prison sentence after admitting to meeting a teen online and then twice travelling to Ireland to have sex with her.

Jashua Tremblay, 34, first made online contact with the girl in 2012, when she was 13. They exchanged nude images online. When she turned 14, he flew to Ireland and had sex with her.

Court heard that Tremblay returned to Ireland to have sex with the girl on a second trip. That’s when he was caught by authorities.

Jashua Tremblay, 34, has been handed a four-and-a-half year prison sentence for charges related to luring.

Tremblay pleaded guilty to three charges related to luring to facilitate child pornography, luring for sexual contact as well as flying to Ireland for actual sexual contact with a child.

He was handed his sentence in court on Wednesday.

Crown Attorney Craig Krieger told reporters after the sentencing that he gives credit to police in Ireland, who put a “tremendous amount of effort to prove the identity of who this adult was that had come to violate one of their kids.”

After Tremblay’s sentence is complete he will face a 10-year ban on internet contact with children, or from attending any place where children might gather.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/alberta...case-1.3367070

Seriously? Only 4.5 years for this?
What's going on with these short sentences!

[the game]

Canada really needs to crack down on their sexual predators. What can we do about this?

[Heladys]

Canada really needs to crack down on their sexual predators. What can we do about this?

You can all keep calling the FBI about Tennisace every chance you get.

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[Socialhealer]

she was 14 and it sounds consensual he's hardly a monster, but he did break the law.

also places like brazil and china have age of consent of 14, while the middle east basically has no age requirement except marriage.

oh and child pornography just sounds much worse than it is, basically she sent nudes = child porn

if he was blackmailing her into sending nudes and having sex that's one thing, but the law states a minor cannot consent = everything is his fault, he raped her etc etc even if she wanted him.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

The question is why wasn't he extracted to Ireland? Will he be after he serves his time here?

[Tennis]

After reading the article, it seems like the sex was consensual. Four and a half years seems a bit much.

The article said he was preying on a 13 year old girl. That isn't ok.

[Ghostpanther]

After reading the article, it seems like the sex was consensual. Four and a half years seems a bit much.

At 14 you are not developed enough to fully understand the risks and consequences of such behavior. That is why it is against the law to have sex with someone under age. 4.5 years would be enough if the prison he is sent to is a real prison. You know, do some road work busting your ass and sweating like a pig chained to other prisoners. Not some confined resort. :P

[Bryntrollian]

After reading the article, it seems like the sex was consensual. Four and a half years seems a bit much.

The law says a person of that age is incapable of admitting consent, therefore the sex wasn't consensual.

[Berengil]

At 14 you are not developed enough to fully understand the risks and consequences of such behavior. That is why it is against the law to have sex with someone under age. 4.5 years would be enough if the prison he is sent to is a real prison. You know, do some road work busting your ass and sweating like a pig chained to other prisoners. Not some confined resort. :P

I don't see it as an absolute line. I'd personally be for giving judges far more leeway to decide if a teen was mature enough to consent. I know I was at 13. One of the best days of my life. God bless 17 year old girls whose little extra bit of body fat lowers their self-esteem (really not that much, but you know some women). That was a good day.

[ramjb]

Clinton, Weiner, Lena Dunham (who is proud to have sexually molested her sister), Canada. Liberals are all moral degenerates. Thank God that Republicans with their Christian values won last election.

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[Bryntrollian]

Perhaps we are reading two different things. The article mentioned that the two exchanged nude photos. That is why i think it was mutual.

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Ok, this is true. But, it was mutual.

The only way to get true consent in that case is if it comes from that minor's parents but that would still be a problem.

[Wyrt]

Clinton, Weiner, Lena Dunham (who is proud to have sexually molested her sister), Canada. Liberals are all moral degenerates. Thank God that Republicans with their Christian values won last election.

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Yeah! With Christian values it would be a boy instead of a girl.

[Ghostpanther]

I don't see it as an absolute line. I'd personally be for giving judges far more leeway to decide if a teen was mature enough to consent. I know I was at 13. One of the best days of my life. God bless 17 year old girls whose little extra bit of body fat lowers their self-esteem (really not that much, but you know some women). That was a good day.

You may not, but the law sees it differently. And the law needs to be obeyed. Judges can not ignore the law and be much of a judge. And 17 may not seem like much difference. But at that age, 3 years can make a difference. Which why there is a cut off. :P

[Torto]

How does this story translate to sex tourism?

sex tourism
noun
the organization of holidays with the purpose of taking advantage of the lack of restrictions imposed on sexual activity and prostitution by some foreign countries.

Is this an industry promoted by Ireland?

[Ghostpanther]

The only way to get true consent in that case is if it comes from that minor's parents but that would still be a problem.

Even that would be illegal here in the States. Maybe not in some other country which does not have our standards of law.

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Well, legal consent, yes. It still seems weird that he is going to prison for four and a half years for something that is (not using the legal term) consensual.

He broke the law by having sex with a minor. Why is it weird? It is not lawful consent if the one is under age. As such, he should be punished.

[Mormolyce]

I know that she's under the Irish age of consent but:

It is understood the investigation was launched when people living in the area noticed inappropriate behaviour between the two.
Without the intervention by neighbours "the case may never have come to light let alone end up in a prosecution" the source added.

"This case highlights the level of engagement between gardai and other countries in these cases and shows that international borders don't hinder an investigation like this."
During the investigation it emerged that he convinced the young girl they were in a legitimate relationship and told her he wanted “100 kids”.

When in Ireland the pair stayed in hotels, a campsite and a holiday home.

Neighbours living near the holiday home in an Irish seaside down alerted gardai when they became suspicious about the level of affection between the two.
It is understood Tremblay told gardai initially he was the girl’s father.

Edmonton Law Courts in Alberta heard details of how Tremblay preyed on the vulnerable teen who had recently lost her mother.

He sent her naked images and encouraged her to reciprocate.
The girl told her father she was staying with a friend during Tremblay’s visits.

When her dad read an excerpt from a letter he had sent the victim and became concerned Tremblay lied about his age and promised to cease contact.

He continued the relationship however and returned to Ireland for a second time.
In a victim impact statement the girl’s father revealed the stress induced by the incident for the family and said his daughter had been brainwashed by Tremblay.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news...-35619893.html

I see no evidence here that she was not a willing participant in this relationship. So the reason that this is illegal is that the government of Ireland has decided that a 14 year old girl is incapable of giving consent, and it has taken away her ability to do so.

You may agree with that or not, but at the end of the day this is only a crime because of speculation about this girl's mental, emotional and sexual development. Which is subjective and by no means universally accepted. If he'd travelled to Germany, Austria, Italy, Hungary, Portugal, Liechtenstein or Macedonia then this would've been a legal relationship.

Lena Dunham (who is proud to have sexually molested her sister)

We're still repeating this lie are we?

[Ghostpanther]

I know that she's under the Irish age of consent but:


http://www.independent.ie/irish-news...-35619893.html

I see no evidence here that she was not a willing participant in this relationship. So the reason that this is illegal is that the government of Ireland has decided that a 14 year old girl is incapable of giving consent, and it has taken away her ability to do so.

You may agree with that or not, but at the end of the day this is only a crime because of speculation about this girl's mental, emotional and sexual development. Which is subjective and by no means universally accepted. If he'd travelled to Germany, Austria, Italy, Hungary, Portugal, Liechtenstein or Macedonia then this would've been a legal relationship.

Good for Ireland to have such a law. It is the same in the US. So next time he wants to brainwash and seduce a young, not fully developed girl , he should do it in another country which it is legal and while he is at it, stay there. :P Also child pornography is illegal in the US and I assume is in Canada. Arrest his ass for contributing to that if he sends and receives nude pics of a underage girl in his country.

[Tennis]

I am not questioning that. But, if a cop stops you for running a red light, he may let you off with only a warning or he could give you a ticket. In this case, because they both consented (not in the legal sense) to it, i think it too harsh of a punishment.

Her mom just died and he's clearly taking advantage of her. He's a father as well and yet here he is, taking advantage of a teenager. How awful!

[Ghostpanther]

I am not questioning that. But, if a cop stops you for running a red light, he may let you off with only a warning or he could give you a ticket. In this case, because they both consented (not in the legal sense) to it, i think it too harsh of a punishment.

Judges are giving some discretion. And the punishment can vary. As long as it falls within the law. Running a red light is a misdemeanor offense. If the one running the red light is a minor who should not even be driving, I can guarantee the cop is not going to let it pass with just a warning ticket. So that is not in the same league as sex with a minor.

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And, i totally agree with this. It is indeed against the law. But, the law literally just picks a number out of a hat and then declares one mentally fit to make such a decision. The law needs to be changed.

But that excuse is not going to carry much weight when you face a judge for breaking the law.

If one thinks a law is unfair, there are ways to get it changed.

[Mormolyce]

So next time he wants to brainwash and seduce a young, not fully developed girl

At what exact age does a girl become fully developed and therefore able to exercise her own free will in who she sleeps with? Down to the hour if possible.