King Tut's DNA is Western European

[Theinquisition]

http://www.eutimes.net/2010/06/king-...tern-european/

I wasn't expecting this, interesting.

Despite the refusal of the Secretary General of the Egyptian Supreme Council of Antiquities, Zahi Hawass, to release any DNA results which might indicate the racial ancestry of Pharaoh Tutankhamen, the leaked results reveal that King Tut’s DNA is a 99.6 percent match with Western European Y chromosomes.

The DNA test results were inadvertently revealed on a Discovery Channel TV documentary filmed with Hawass’s permission — but it seems as if the Egyptian failed to spot the giveaway part of the documentary which revealed the test results.

Hawass previously announced that he would not release the racial DNA results of Egyptian mummies — obviously because he feared the consequences of such a revelation.

On the Discovery Channel broadcast, which can be seen on the Discovery Channel website here, or if they pull it, on YouTube here, at approximately 1:53 into the video, the camera pans over a printout of DNA test results from King Tut.

Firstly, here is a brief explanation of the results visible in the video. It is a list of what is called Short Tandem Repeats (STRs).

STRs are repeated DNA sequences which are “short repeat units” whose characteristics make them especially suitable for human identification.

These STR values for 17 markers visible in the video are as follows:
DYS 19 – 14 (? not clear)
DYS 385a – 11
DYS 385b – 14
DYS 389i – 13
DYS 389ii – 30
DYS 390 – 24
DYS 391 – 11
DYS 392 – 13
DYS 393 – 13
DYS 437 – 14 (? not clear)
DYS 438 – 12
DYS 439 – 10
DYS 448 – 19
DYS 456 – 15
DYS 458 – 16
DYS 635 – 23
YGATAH4 – 11

What does this mean? Fortunately, a genius by the name of Whit Athey provides the key to this list. Mr Athey is a retired physicist whose working career was primarily at the Food and Drug Administration where he was chief of one of the medical device labs.

Mr Athey received his doctorate in physics and biochemistry at Tufts University, and undergraduate (engineering) and masters (math) degrees at Auburn University. For several years during the 1980s, he also taught one course each semester in the electrical engineering department of the University of Maryland. Besides his interest in genetic genealogy, he is an amateur astronomer and has his own small observatory near his home in Brookeville, MD.

He also runs a very valuable website called the “Haplogroup Predictor” which allows users to input STR data and generate the haplogroup which marks those STR data.

For those who want to know what a haplogroup is, here is a “simple” definition: a haplogroup is a group of similar haplotypes that share a common ancestor with a single nucleotide polymorphism (SNP) mutation.

Still none the wiser? Damn these scientists.

Ok, let’s try it this way: a haplotype is a combination of multiple specific locations of a gene or DNA sequence on a chromosome.

Haplogroups are assigned letters of the alphabet, and refinements consist of additional number and letter combinations, for example R1b or R1b1. Y-chromosome and mitochondrial DNA haplogroups have different haplogroup designations. In essence, haplogroups give an inisight into ancestral origins dating back thousands of years.

By entering all the STR data inadvertently shown on the Discovery video, a 99.6 percent fit with the R1b haplogroup is revealed.

The significance is, of course, that R1b is the most common Y-chromosome haplogroup in Europe reaching its highest concentrations in Ireland, Scotland, western England and the European Atlantic seaboard — in other words, European through and through.

[Puupi]

Not surprising. The ancient Egyptians in Lower Egypt were white and the people in Upper Egypt, mostly Nubians, were black.

PS. Zahi Hawass is full of shit.

[Techno-Druid]

Doesn't surprise me. Egypt was a major area of trade between Europe, Africa and Western Asia. Admixture between these groups was likely not uncommon.

[Deleted]

we wuz kings?

[derpkitteh]

i mean, if you see the image of what he was thought to have looked like, he looks like a tan russian.

i don't get the point of hiding it. everyone knows modern day egyptians aren't really the same people from back in the day, but even modern egyptians are caucasians. what's the big fucking deal?

[downnola]

we wuz kings?

There goes my coffee all over the keyboard.

[Theinquisition]

i mean, if you see the image of what he was thought to have looked like, he looks like a tan russian.

i don't get the point of hiding it. everyone knows modern day egyptians aren't really the same people from back in the day, but even modern egyptians are caucasians. what's the big fucking deal?

not a big deal per say, I just wasn't expecting that. Maybe middle eastern and southeast European.

[Deleted]

the fuck is this source, couldn't find the stormfront link ?

[Puupi]

i mean, if you see the image of what he was thought to have looked like, he looks like a tan russian.

i don't get the point of hiding it. everyone knows modern day egyptians aren't really the same people from back in the day, but even modern egyptians are caucasians. what's the big fucking deal?

Modern Egyptians are mainly Arabs.

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the fuck is this source, couldn't find the stormfront link ?

It's a low budget mixture of breitbart and stormfront.

[Techno-Druid]

People seem to think that human beings were somehow restricted by geography until modern times. Miscegenation and admixture between populations has existed for as long as human beings have existed.

[Shinra1]

This is revisionist history propaganda.

I can't wait for the usual suspects to come in here and swear up and down that the lower Egyptians were in fact white and thus Europeans built the pyramids.

Culture vultures, NOT today satan, NOT 2 day

[Kraenen]

This is revisionist history propaganda.

Afrocentrists get upset when their race myths get shattered

[Azadina]

People seem to think that human beings were somehow restricted by geography until modern times. Miscegenation and admixture between populations has existed for as long as human beings have existed.

In one way it might have been simpler back then. Now if you try randomly going somewhere, you get stopped at borders unless paperwork matches.

[Ironhorn]

Not surprising. The ancient Egyptians in Lower Egypt were white and the people in Upper Egypt, mostly Nubians, were black.

PS. Zahi Hawass is full of shit.

Nubians were from Sudan in the south they invaded Egypt and took over. They had a short dynasty of 96 years until the Assyrian Empire invaded and put a native Egyptian back on the throne..

[Shinra1]

i mean, if you see the image of what he was thought to have looked like, he looks like a tan russian.

i don't get the point of hiding it. everyone knows modern day egyptians aren't really the same people from back in the day, but even modern egyptians are caucasians. what's the big fucking deal?

The big deal is this BS. You're lying to yourself honey. Get your facts straight.


You first claimed cleopatra as white when the records indicate otherwise but now you want to lay claim to the rest of the pharoahs too? Hahaha BYE

[derpkitteh]

not a big deal per say, I just wasn't expecting that. Maybe middle eastern and southeast European.

oh, i didn't mean you. i meant the dude trying to hide it, i don't get why it's being made that big of a deal by the guy trying to hide it.

Modern Egyptians are mainly Arabs.

yeah, and arabs are caucasian.

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The big deal is this BS. You're lying to yourself honey. Get your facts straight.


You first claimed cleopatra as white when the records indicate otherwise but now you want to lay claim to the rest of the pharoahs too? Hahaha BYE

the main peoples that built the pyramids and shit were caucasian, that's all there is to it. the only blacks in ancient egypt were the nubians.

[Puupi]

Nubians were from Sudan in the south they invaded Egypt and took over. They had a short dynasty of 96 years until the Assyrian Empire invaded and put a native Egyptian back on the throne..

The Kushite kingdom was Egyptian as well. After the Assyrians invaded Kush was integrated to Egypt...

[Techno-Druid]

The big deal is this BS. You're lying to yourself honey. Get your facts straight.


You first claimed cleopatra as white when the records indicate otherwise but now you want to lay claim to the rest of the pharoahs too? Hahaha BYE

Cleopatra was not a Native Egyptian. I'm a little fuzzy on history, but I'm pretty sure she was half-Greek and half-Bactrian. An indication might be that she actually had to learn Egyptian (and was the first of her line of pharaohs placed on the throne by Alexander the Great to do so).

[Puupi]

yeah, and arabs are caucasian.

Yes, but my point was that ancient Egyptians weren't Arabs. Even though both people are Caucasians.

[Deleted]

We wuz kings and shieet