Would you consider an open relationship?

[Mehrunes]

There's an extremely small minority of people who do not seek companionship in any way. If you can prove that women over represent in this category, by all means. Till then, I expect about an equal representation in people seeking such.

Where the hell did I say it's the women that overrepresent in this category? How the hell does that translate to ease in the context of my arguments about unequal distribution of the genders? Of course it's the men that overrepresent in this category (a sentiment expressed by another woman in this thread as well). Again, difference in frequency of approaching the other gender. Or things like women getting boatloads more messages on Tinder. So women seeking only sex have a larger pool of men seeking only sex to choose from, while men have to compete against each other, which in turn results in more difficulty for them on average.

Because if you're being picky, it stands to reason you're not trying to find as much as you humanly can. That's not exactly a careful and conservative method.

And now you're conflating difficulty with frequency of finding someone that meets your standards (or frequency of sex in general, where did finding as much as you humanly can come from?). While a factor in difficulty, it's not the be-all, end-all. There's still issue of social pressure to initiate being placed on men. And then you're in for a bunch of rejection before finding a partner. How is that equally difficult as just having to wait for a bit for a guy you don't want to reject?

I'm saying there's no proof if it going that way, but yet that is how some claim it does. It's not counter to the earlier point, in which I said that if all men indeed have such hard time, then women aren't going to find anything either. That being an actual impossibility, for all women to get laid whenever they want, but no man can get laid.

Aside for things like gender dynamics observable on dating sites, including Tinder that's evolved largely towards hookups showing how things are skewed in favor of women, that is. Also, less easy. No man can get laid. Nope, not even in Anduin's posts which are somewhat extreme with all that alpha nonsense and whatnot, there was no claim of no man being able to get laid. Alas, straw is fun.

[Firefall]

No sources to back it up then.

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You are contradicting yourself.

No, no I'm not. You said cuckolding does not always refer to cheating. It always refers to cheating. They are not being cheated on, so you could say they are not being cuckolded, either. But that's what the fetish means. IE, you can fulfill a rape/ravishment fantasy without actually being raped.

[Stelio Kontos]

I sometimes get the underlying vibe that a lot of the angry bitter internet boys might prefer if women had no choice in partners.

I guess that enlightened gentlemen such as themselves should just be given a woman and she should be grateful for it

[Mehrunes]

Oh please. You are linking an article where person makes a spambot to spam people, and doesn't find anyone? Shocking? Would you be impressed by spambot contacting you, instead of a person bothering to do it?

Quality > quantity.

Oh please. Because the article didn't cover anything else. Reading the article > reading the title.

[Dug]

I sometimes get the underlying vibe that a lot of the angry bitter internet boys might prefer if women had no choice in partners.

I guess that enlightened gentlemen such as themselves should just be given a woman and she should be grateful for it

Hey but remember, no fatties

[Mehrunes]

No. You can't consent to being cheated on. Cucks watch their partner getting fucked. How would they not know about it then? You're not poly if you watch your wife having sex with another guy, you're just a cuck.

Roleplaying is a thing. You can't consent to being raped, yet rape fetish and rapeplay exist.

[Firefall]

Oh please. Because the article didn't cover anything else. Reading the article > reading the title.

I gotta say, I read the article and it sounds like a pretty bad one to link. Guy sounds like a loony and at the end says he only wouldn't sell his spambot for copyright reasons? And he got a ton of dates. Maybe he's just creepy in person.

[Vicivia]

No sources to back it up then.

Neither do you... You just want to spew viscous hatred all over a forum about how those dirty bastards with more than one woman at a time are secretly getting cucked, and you aren't miserable, just a (stereotypical) guy looking from the sidelines at all those cucks and sluts. If you want to post your evidence, I'll take the time to post mine. I'm not going to spend the next 2 hours re-tracking down sources when you clearly neither desire to consider other opinions as it is, nor actually have any evidence to back up your ramblings.

[Deleted]

No, no I'm not. You said cuckolding does not always refer to cheating. It always refers to cheating. They are not being cheated on, so you could say they are not being cuckolded, either. But that's what the fetish means. IE, you can fulfill a rape/ravishment fantasy without actually being raped.

You first say being cuckolded is about being cheated on, then say that they are not being cheated on. That's a contradiction.

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Neither do you... You just want to spew viscous hatred all over a forum about how those dirty bastards with more than one woman at a time are secretly getting cucked, and you aren't miserable, just a (stereotypical) guy looking from the sidelines at all those cucks and sluts. If you want to post your evidence, I'll take the time to post mine. I'm not going to spend the next 2 hours re-tracking down sources when you clearly neither desire to consider other opinions as it is, nor actually have any evidence to back up your ramblings.

Sources to back up what? That "open relationships" are not real relationships? That they are not a good idea? It's common sense.

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Roleplaying is a thing. You can't consent to being raped, yet rape fetish and rapeplay exist.

They are not roleplaying anything. She has sex with another guy and he watches.

[Deleted]

I sometimes get the underlying vibe that a lot of the angry bitter internet boys might prefer if women had no choice in partners.

I guess that enlightened gentlemen such as themselves should just be given a woman and she should be grateful for it

I'm thinking with some guys (and girls) they want a far more traditional relationship.

As long as theyre willing to work for it and it works, I'm all for it. Otherwise it's just downright laziness and whining.

[Firefall]

You first say being cuckolded is about being cheated on, then say that they are not being cheated on. That's a contradiction.

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Sources to back up what? That "open relationships" are not real relationships? That they are not a good idea? It's common sense.

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They are not roleplaying anything. She has sex with another guy and he watches.

That's not what I said, nor what is said in the post you just quoted. You are capable of fulfilling a fantasy or kink in a safe, sane, and consensual way. They have a fantasy of being cheated on.

It isn't roleplay in all situations, but it is negotiated. No one is actually being cheated on, but the fantasy is still being fulfilled. Cuckolding specifically refers to this fantasy.

[Mehrunes]

I gotta say, I read the article and it sounds like a pretty bad one to link. Guy sounds like a loony and at the end says he only wouldn't sell his spambot for copyright reasons? And he got a ton of dates. Maybe he's just creepy in person.

It's almost as if there was a part of the article that was not about the guy, but general Tinder trends, including a reference to some research on the topic (and brief mention of an earlier Independent article about said research if one was interested), with bits like women having a difficulty to find something valuable in all the messages they get vs men having low success rates, or something. And it's almost as if that part was much more relevant to the topic here, which could probably potentially maybe be the case why I linked it.

[Nasukkin]

Short answer: No.

Long answer: Fuck no.

Longer answer: Holy shit, NO. No, no, no. I tried this before in the past with the love of my life and it lead to our relationship imploding after almost 9 years of being together. Never again. It won't go the way you think it will.

[Vicivia]

Sources to back up what? That "open relationships" are not real relationships? That they are not a good idea? It's common sense.

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What common sense? Yours? The studies I have seen are closer to common sense than anything you have said in this thread. Communication is FAR more important in any relationship than finances and even number of partners. There have even been studies on open relationships, albeit on slightly smaller sample sizes (in the hundreds), that partners who communicate effectively can not only maintain long term open relationships, but in fact score much happier than the average couple because of the absolute requirement of communicating with your partners in such an arrangement in order to maintain trust.

[Azadina]

Alright, gonna make you another fancy graph.

Just answer me one thing, do you thing women are, on average, pickier than men when choosing partners?

Yes, why?

Where the hell did I say it's the women that overrepresent in this category? How the hell does that translate to ease in the context of my arguments about unequal distribution of the genders? Of course it's the men that overrepresent in this category (a sentiment expressed by another woman in this thread as well). Again, difference in frequency of approaching the other gender. Or things like women getting boatloads more messages on Tinder. So women seeking only sex have a larger pool of men seeking only sex to choose from, while men have to compete against each other, which in turn results in more difficulty for them on average.

And now you're conflating difficulty with frequency of finding someone that meets your standards (or frequency of sex in general, where did finding as much as you humanly can come from?). While a factor in difficulty, it's not the be-all, end-all. There's still issue of social pressure to initiate being placed on men. And then you're in for a bunch of rejection before finding a partner. How is that equally difficult as just having to wait for a bit for a guy you don't want to reject?

Aside for things like gender dynamics observable on dating sites, including Tinder that's evolved largely towards hookups showing how things are skewed in favor of women, that is. Also, less easy. No man can get laid. Nope, not even in Anduin's posts which are somewhat extreme with all that alpha nonsense and whatnot, there was no claim of no man being able to get laid. Alas, straw is fun.

So all the whining about "difficulty" mostly comes from how online dating works, is that a fair assessment? Something men have done to themselves in that specific regard; they troll and spam anyone they see with extreme low effort messages, which won't get anyone anywhere. Sorry if I'm not going to take that seriously as argument for ease and difficulty, when it's done on purpose, despite it not working.

If people aren't interested in person, and just spam them some thoughtless nonsense, just before spamming 1000 others they equally don't know, or care anything about, then guess how it's going to go. That shows a mile away. Then you link some creating spambots to do the work for them, when they can't be bothered with even the low effort "hi" messages.

If you purposefully do something that doesn't work for crap, for obvious reasons of how it's done, then that's ones own fault. If they put an effort into it, I very much doubt they would need to make claims of difficulty.

In summary: self-fulfilling prophecy, and I give 0 amount of legitimacy to such.

[Deleted]

I'm curious about the 21% who voted yes, I've barely seen any comments from them.

Don't be shy, tell us about it!

[Firefall]

It's almost as if there was a part of the article that was not about the guy, but general Tinder trends, including a reference to some research on the topic (and brief mention of an earlier Independent article about said research if one was interested), with bits like women having a difficulty to find something valuable in all the messages they get vs men having low success rates, or something. And it's almost as if that part was much more relevant to the topic here, which could probably potentially maybe be the case why I linked it.

I'm not even sure what you're arguing because looking over your posts we seem to be on the same side? You can tone down the hostility o_0

[Sky High]

eeeeeeeeeeh probably not, just seems like a breeding ground for needless drama.

[Deleted]

Well I see I'm not going to change anyone's mind in here about how idiotic it is to be a cuck. I guess that is what men today are. They'd rather watch porn or see their own girl getting banged by some other dude and masturbate to it, than go out and be a stud instead. Go ahead and massage your noodle while a real alpha gives your woman what she can not get from you. I'll be out there, studying game, being alpha. I'm out.

Here's your anthem

[SilenceRedo]

Yes, I would not only consider it, but is something I want to experience. Physical sex and emotional sex aren't the same thing. There are a lot of gray areas in an open relationship, It only a matter of discussing them your partner in order to avoid problems later.