Why are so many against skimpier armor?

[MasterHamster]

I don't really respect using sex-appeal to garner attention. But I suppose it's not as bad as those shitty mobile games whose ads are 95% boobs 5% MOBA gameplay.

[Sigxy]

And captain nipple ring?

Whenever I see that image, I can't help but think of the situation where Grom went "Roight, chaps, today is the day I will get PIERCINGS for my NIPPLES! FOR THE HORDE!"

I mean really, why. o_o Or was it just one of those 'Drunken teenage moments'?

[Deleted]

I loathe sluts. Such armours are nothing more than cavespawned primitivism designed for nothing more than an attempt at mating ritual.

It is important to differentiate nudity of males and females though. While they serve similar roles, their execution is vastly different.

Modesty is divine.

[Srg56]

Why are so many against skimpier armor?

First of all, i'm not too sure about the "so many". It's also about where you look for opinions and most importantly how sincere the people you're talking to are. Having said that, there are two main camps on the anti female skin showing that i've been able to identify:

Firstly:
The ideological camp of feminism which pathologizes male sexuality. Men looking at women they find attractive is "male gaze" and other such nonsese. It's based on a deep seated inferiority complex and sexual insecurity which lashes out at depictions of female beauty to which they cannot measure up.(this isn't strictly physical beauty, but also the way in which a lady carries herself in society, mannerisms, etc)

Secondly:
The realism crowd which cherry picks what they find realistic based on what they like or not. They like when games are unrealistic in the sense that they feature women being just as physically strong as men, so that's quitely swept under the rug and kept away from their "realism" hammer they like to swing about. Women in revealing clothing? Whack that sucker right on the head. It's like eating their cake and having it too. Bit hypocritical, but eh, what do you expect?

[Nnyco]

cant you just watch porn instead if ur that desperate if u look for it in wow

[Danuru]

And as a Priest of the Light, it would be better for you to show off your body? Isn't that sort of against what Priests are intended to be? (I only bring this up since we're talking realism now)

High Inquisitor Whitemane would like a word with you.

[Sigxy]

High Inquisitor Whitemane would like a word with you.

I know she and the 'Argent Crusade' version of her (forgot the name) show off their thighs a bit, but they are still covering the rest up, and they are using a tabard that hangs down too.

Then again, these days, Whitemane doesn't really wear her usual clothing after converting to undeath...

[Lex Icon]

First of all, i'm not too sure about the "so many". It's also about where you look for opinions and most importantly how sincere the people you're talking to are. Having said that, there are two main camps on the anti female skin showing that i've been able to identify:

Firstly:
The ideological camp of feminism which pathologizes male sexuality. Men looking at women they find attractive is "male gaze" and other such nonsese. It's based on a deep seated inferiority complex and sexual insecurity which lashes out at depictions of female beauty to which they cannot measure up.(this isn't strictly physical beauty, but also the way in which a lady carries herself in society, mannerisms, etc)

Secondly:
The realism crowd which cherry picks what they find realistic based on what they like or not. They like when games are unrealistic in the sense that they feature women being just as physically strong as men, so that's quitely swept under the rug and kept away from their "realism" hammer they like to swing about. Women in revealing clothing? Whack that sucker right on the head. It's like eating their cake and having it too. Bit hypocritical, but eh, what do you expect?

i think that second part is more to do with games that have lots of slut mogs tend to end up in 90% of the players chars being half naked females so it's pretty much all you see every day. imagine how that would make wow look from a pr perspective for a second.

[Somarlane]

I just think that male characters should have equal opportunity at "slutmogs". This is as close as I could get on my demon hunter. (Side note: I now can't picture him wearing anything else. It's so awful looking to my eyes that it's traversed the line from "ugh" to "lol".) Meanwhile, on my main female character, she can go almost full "it's too hot in the jungle to wear anything else."

More seriously, though: How does another player's avatar's appearance hurt me? If I go to the effort to collect the gear, I can have the same options for myself. Like I once wrote in another forum, what one player may call a slutmog may be another player's canon for their character. My blood elf female warrior used to rock a plate set that was almost plate-kini. It was her way of saying to the world (of Warcraft) that she's just that good at what she does - a visual taunt to her foes.

Just stay away from Lion's Pride Inn and all will be well, if the sexuality gets to bothering a person.

[LaserChild9]

Historically knights also didnt fight dragons, didn't fight minotaurs, and didn't have to deal with magic.

Also, while yes kids dont exactly need to be exposed to skimpy armor, I would say they also don't need to be exposed to many of the other games themes. Like all the horrible crap the demons are doing in Legion.

Ok, so I guess you didn't get the point that no knight or warrior in history ever wore less protection than was requiredjust so the guy behind them could look at their arse, because that's what this is really about isn't it? You want to see blood elf arse in all its glorious pixels.

Historical knights and warriors did not go without head protection, did not have spikes or other big ornaments on their armor that risk transform a glancing blow to a solid hit or act as a lever helpe overturn the knight and add unnecessary weight.

My point is that some male plate armor in wow is atleast as unrealistic as steel bikinis.

No it's not lol. Show me an example of it, some of it maybe impractical, and some may just awful, but for the most part, it is a suit of armour that you can believe prevents harm from attacks, How are you supposed to believe that a pair of chaps could stop much?

A part of the problem with the bigger armors is that they'd simply be to cumbersome to even move in. Likewise if you're going to argue a dragon, I dont see how you're supposed to fight one in either plate armor or bikini. Either way the dragon is twenty times your size. I dont know how that argument could be any worse.

That said, I find skimpy armor visually appealing. Not just because its sexy. I find many of WoW's full plate armor to be vastly overblown and kinda goofy looking.

Having options is not a bad thing, and skimpy armor has fit the setting for ages.

Ok, lets not argue dragons as you cant grasp that point. Lets argue established baseline fantasy like Lord of the Rings or Game of Thrones. They could have put kinky armour in those, all of your arguments apply it is still fiction, so why didn't they?

[Deleted]

I've occasionally seen it as a topic on the general forum: players wanting a few more options for skimpy armor. Every time there is a large amount of opposition against it. But why?

The most common argument I've seen is that it isn't realistic. That for example, a Warrior isn't going to go to a fight showing off their legs and middriff. This one I've understood the least since Warcraft is pretty much defined by unrealistic weapons and armor. For instance the first tier in Warlord of Draenor has warriors sporting armor that seems to have an internal furnace built in, spinning chain saws on over sized pauldrons, and a giant lava filled, spiked, fire belching belt, all of which would not only prevent the warrior from moving, but also very likely cause them extreme harm. Not only that, but why would a heavy plated armor defend someone from say, a hyper charge bolt of lightning, any more than skimpy belly showing armor? Not to mention no one has any problem with hiding head gear.

Another common argument is the all to common "You're just immature if you want sexy armor". Once more, looking at other armors in the game they tend to be over designed, filled with bright colors, completely none-sensical, often with themes that you would most commonly find doodled in a middle schoolers text book. Warcraft is more or less defined by rule of cool. Saying a plate-kini is any more immature than wearing the glowing bones of a dragon is asanine. They are both their own kind of immature, and thats fine. Thats what the setting is all about. Its a setting where people go around wielding giant swords bigger than they are with edgy backstories like "This sword drank the darkness of an evil god" or "These swords are from the remnants of a vampiric soul eating rune blade".

So why are so many against skimpy armor? Seems even blizzard is, which is a bit ironic given how many of their designs are blatantly pandering especially when it comes to showing off men.

I'm with you, Skimpy armors are fun. People cry about ''unrealistic'' but if you see old real life weapons, 99% wow weapons and armours are unrealistic, so who care if there is a half naked warrior?

[Plutarch78]

No skimpy armor. That's Patriarchy! We can't send such harmful messages to young girls about what society expects of them.

*sarcasm*

[Dug]

Because skimpy armor is immature no matter which way you slice it. Some semblance of realism in a fantasy game is necessary for immersion and the fantasy of armor clad warriors battling monsters. If we're just going to throw all that out because weee boobs and "its fantasy!" we all might as well be butt naked because hey who cares?

And sorry but I'd rather not play a game that's known for lots of fan service because as I said it is immature and not something I want in my games.

[Nexsa]

Because skimpy armor is immature no matter which way you slice it. Some semblance of realism in a fantasy game is necessary for immersion and the fantasy of armor clad warriors battling monsters. If we're just going to throw all that out because weee boobs and "its fantasy!" we all might as well be butt naked because hey who cares?

And sorry but I'd rather not play a game that's known for lots of fan service because as I said it is immature and not something I want in my games.

I went back to older expac content and took my armor off while face rolling enemies. Glad you weren't there to have your immersion ruined for you.

[Dug]

I went back to older expac content and took my armor off while face rolling enemies. Glad you weren't there to have your immersion ruined for you.

Glad I wasn't there either.

[Queen of Hamsters]

Because skimpy armor is immature no matter which way you slice it. Some semblance of realism in a fantasy game is necessary for immersion and the fantasy of armor clad warriors battling monsters. If we're just going to throw all that out because weee boobs and "its fantasy!" we all might as well be butt naked because hey who cares?

And sorry but I'd rather not play a game that's known for lots of fan service because as I said it is immature and not something I want in my games.

The game as a whole is immature by default though. People concerned with doing mature things should probably not pursue gaming as a hobby.

I've only ever seen sexiness fall under "mature audiences", so kinda contradicting.

[Sigxy]

No it's not lol. Show me an example of it, some of it maybe impractical, and some may just awful, but for the most part, it is a suit of armour that you can believe prevents harm from attacks, How are you supposed to believe that a pair of chaps could stop much?

As long as it's in WoW, yeah, they look believable to prevent damage. Kind of. Because as much as I love armour and such:

WoW's armour is actually really darn bad...! You can cut them with swords. If you can cut armour like paper (Like you see in a lot of movies and games) then they might as well just wear less - BUT would still be important to cover up the body so you don't get easy scratches from the envrionment and get some nasty infection (since not EVERYONE can use spells to heal them).

But that being said, there is an 'armor' stat and that plate armour does at least increase it, making you take less physical damage than the other types, so I guess it's good enough to wear all that bulky armour that I will NEVER understand how people walk in...!

[Dug]

The game as a whole is immature by default though. People concerned with doing mature things should probably not pursue gaming as a hobby.

I've only ever seen sexiness fall under "mature audiences", so kinda contradicting.

There's levels to it. Fan service for the sake of it and people getting mad when its taken away or not present is a whole other level of immature cringe I can't understand why anyone would want to be apart of. I'd prefer to not turn into some japanese RPG

[Deleted]

Why would people complain about armor looks when transmogrification is a thing? People can wear whatever the heck they like.

Are the complainers some feminazis who all play fat cows or pandas and want to ban all others from looking sexy?

Because skimpy armor is immature no matter which way you slice it. Some semblance of realism in a fantasy game is necessary for immersion and the fantasy of armor clad warriors battling monsters. If we're just going to throw all that out because weee boobs and "its fantasy!" we all might as well be butt naked because hey who cares?

And sorry but I'd rather not play a game that's known for lots of fan service because as I said it is immature and not something I want in my games.

This is what I mean. Why do you care about what other people choose to wear in a game? "Boo-hoo, that elf revealing her midriff is ruining MY game!!!" Well guess what, they pay for the game as well and are entitled to dress up any way they like. Your very presence might very well be ruining someone else's immersion.

[Utigarde]

I'd love skimpy armor on dudes. Give me more male slutmogs, the best I can do right now on my mage is a tight vest and thighs.