Global Warming is a Hoax, Fact.

[Deleted]

To the mmo champion forum einsteins who know all and seen all, you just got exposed by this top man of why global warning is a hoax, so enjoy paying that carbon tax, GJ my american friends for pulling out of that deal.

More facts incase your brains havent woken up yet:

[Infracted]

[Aggrophobic]

Sigh... No, it's not.

[ABEEnr2]

i kinda hope u are joking...

[Darometh]

This is going to be a great show

[Thepersona]

To the mmo champion forum einsteins who know all and seen all, you just got exposed by this top man of why global warning is a hoax, so enjoy paying that carbon tax, GJ my american friends for pulling out of that deal.

i'll autoquote myself for the 5th (or 6th time). Climate change (AGW) is fucking real

Hello. I'm posting this because i'm sick of all the lies that some people try to put out in order to generate doubt that AGW exist. Because of that i'll put some reasons on why human-caused climate change exists and discredit some of the conspiracy theories behind the deniers (and i personally think that putting denial links should be treated as conspiracy theory on these forums).
Bear in mind that some of the evidence complements eachother. so its desirable to read all of them.

Before this starts, you should read these links on what does greenhouse gas means, and how does the sun... well heats things

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_gas
http://www.c2es.org/facts-figures/main-ghgs
https://www.reference.com/science/su...014b7e2f6f84e7
http://science.howstuffworks.com/star.htm


First evidence: Carbon (and Methane) has been proven to be a greenhouse gas, or to be more exact, a heat trapping gas. There's even a video on mythbusters that prove it, on a controlled condition. Most of the solar radiation that reaches our planet is on the infrared to visible spectrum.

https://scied.ucar.edu/carbon-dioxid...ared-radiation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPRd5GT0v0I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX4eOg2LaSY
http://naturalfrequency.com/wiki/solar-radiation

Second Evidence: Carbon has been trapped since ancient times in different sources, mainly in coal, oil and natural gas deposits. This acts as a big (very big) carbon sink. its also trapped in the bottom of the oceans and in the permafrost (alongside methane, but this will be discussed on a point later). When any hydrocarbon compound is subjected to a combustion reaction, it releases H2O and CO2 as waste product + heat and light (if the reaction is strong enough). This even happens on most of the chemical reactions that are necessary to life. This carbon (the one that was trapped on the fossi fuels) has been used extensively since the industrial revolution.

http://www.windows2universe.org/eart...co2_cycle.html
http://www.sartep.com/chem/tutorials...ete+Combustion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combustion
https://www.mhi-global.com/discover/.../history.html4

Third evidence: since the industrial revolution the carbon present on the atmosphere has seen increasing numbers, even more in the recent years.for thousand of years, CO2 has been part of our air in a stable proportion. this hasn't been the case since the 1950s, when widespread use of internal combustion engines and plastic usage went global (plastic manufacture also releases CO2). Methane atmospheric levels are higher too, and methane is a waste product of cattle (it's litterally part of cowsh*t). It's needed to be said that we can accurately predict past levels of different gasses present in an ancient atmosphere, mainly because it gets trapped in bubbles on the antarctic ice.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_methane
http://climate.nasa.gov/climate_resources/24/
https://scholarsandrogues.com/2012/0...-year-old-air/

Fourth evidence: Natural causes cannot be accounted for this increase in CO2 and CH4 levels (such as a natural decrease in carbon sinks, or volcanism).
volcanic activity has remained mostly stable in the past 100s of years, so that emissions are also stable. And interestingly, most of the volcanic eruptions produce localized (and global when its a megavolcano) cooling, because of the sulfur compounds that are released that block sunlight (and heat, and add to that the acid rain). Even in a weird way, climate change affects the rate of volcanic eruptions. Solar activity cannot be accounted for the increase of temperature, for it has been stable/lower than before.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...noes-affect-w/
http://ete.cet.edu/gcc/?/globaltemp_carbon_cycle/
http://www.livescience.com/25936-cli...volcanism.html
https://www.skepticalscience.com/sol...g-advanced.htm

Fifth evidence: The global temperature has been higher in the recent years, increasing in a rate never seen before (some scientist say that its even on a rate comparable to a great dying extinction event). It's very important to note not only the absolute temperature, but the speed of said warming

http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/201...climate-change
http://www.astrobio.net/climate/glob...e-great-dying/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temper...ast_1000_years
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Fea...ming/page3.php

Sixth evidence: Ocean acidification. This is part of the increase of CO2 in the atmosphere. As carbon dioxide is dilluted on seawater, it undergoes a chemical reaction that forms carbonic acid. This does, in fact decrease the Ph of the oceanic water (as Ph goes down, it gets more acidic). This makes shell formation (for molluscs) much more difficult, and can prove fatal for many species.

http://ocean.nationalgeographic.com/...acidification/
https://www.skepticalscience.com/oce...al-warming.htm

Seventh evidence: Floods/Hurricanes/Droughts much more prevalent on the recent years. The extreme temperatures makes this events much more typical than before, and in the case of hurricanes (typhoons) it's because of the higher energy that can be used (higher than before). Have to add that Hurricanes and theses type of storms works like an engine, using heat as energy

https://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/global-war...nd-hurricanes/
http://www.climatehotmap.org/global-...s/drought.html
http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming...l#.WGxG-VXhDIU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-w81QtY0ek

Eighth evidence: Species are moving north (or south) because of the change in temperature/rain, moving higher in latitude to a climate that suits them better, if they cant do that, they die
http://ihrrblog.org/2011/08/24/clima...er-elevations/
http://science.sciencemag.org/content/348/6234/571.full

Ninth Evidence: Some groups (Exxon mobil) reportedly knew about AGW since the 70s. But they tried to use money to get scientists for hire (i dunno what's the exact word) to muddy the waters and produce denialism. this happened because a policy that tackled climate change went against their business interests (like the ban on leaded gasoline and the controversy that happened before that... there's a chapter on cosmos that is dedicated to it).

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...denier-funding
http://www.motherjones.com/environme...science-denial

TLDR: there're insane amounts of evidence that proves that AGW exists. it's condensed on the IPCC report, here:

https://www.ipcc.ch/

and for policy makers (a real tldr) http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-re...r4-wg1-spm.pdf

PS: if someone comes with another one, feel free to PM me

[Zeta333]

So if most states and major cities stick to the paris accord and ignore trump wtf is the point of the outrage. If the deal was unenforceable and just a pinky promise what is the point of the outrage, in 3 years the next president will put us back into it. As long as there are different parties that stand for different shit in politics they go in and out of deals the other made in the last term.

[Zantos]

I went to that video. Click randomly in it. First thing I hear "I think". Nope, hes an idiot.

[judgementofantonidas]

To the mmo champion forum einsteins who know all and seen all, you just got exposed by this top man of why global warning is a hoax, so enjoy paying that carbon tax, GJ my american friends for pulling out of that deal.

the fact that I am in the north east of the united states and have not had more than a day of snow in the last three winters means nothing. got it.

[Draco-Onis]

Skeptical Science discussed his errors in Ivar Giaever - Nobel Winning Physicist and Climate Pseudoscientist (2012):

“I am not really terribly interested in global warming. Like most physicists I don't think much about it. But in 2008 I was in a panel here about global warming and I had to learn something about it. And I spent a day or so - half a day maybe on Google, and I was horrified by what I learned.

[Azadina]

i'll autoquote myself for the 5th (or 6th time). Climate change (AGW) is fucking real

Every sane person knows, and in the case of the clinically insane ones, no amount of facts you show them does anything.

[Deleted]

There's probably an excessive amount of people who take it on little else than faith.
And there's a fine line between denial and skepticism.
Other than that, it's a very sterile "debate". Sad.

[Deleted]

There's two main types of climate change skeptics

A) No, the world is not getting warmer.
B) Yes, the world is getting warmer, because we're coming out of an ice age, but humans have little to no effect on it. <-- The majority of skeptics

Depending on your viewpoint depends if you're open to rational discussion (which if you're A) you're not as you're FACTUALLY wrong.).

Also, the majority of people, myself included, don't actually have the data or evidence to prove it's real, we (as believers) just trust what we're being told.

[Thepersona]

So if most states and major cities stick to the paris accord and ignore trump wtf is the point of the outrage. If the deal was unenforceable and just a pinky promise what is the point of the outrage, in 3 years the next president will put us back into it. As long as there are different parties that stand for different shit in politics they go in and out of deals the other made in the last term.

and that shit is terribly bad for the US standing in the world, cause it is seen as a country that cannot be relied with. i hope you understand that, right?

[prwraith]

To the mmo champion forum einsteins who know all and seen all, you just got exposed by this top man of why global warning is a hoax, so enjoy paying that carbon tax, GJ my american friends for pulling out of that deal.

Everyone with a brain knows your wrong. Everyone with a brain has researched this and his peer reviewed fact checked links to show you. But unfortunately, in the era of jackass presidents, our intellectual base is vanishing. No amount of knowledge, links, fact checked sources, or peer reviewed papers will change your mind. But you expect everyone to take you "facts" from a video posted.

It's like you're not even trying, but I can tell you really are. :/

[david0925]

one video debunks research got it, good bait.

no wonder people believe in everything being fake newsm Trump tweeted it, so it must be true

[Independent voter]

He won his Noble prize in physics, he's not even a climate scientist.

[Thepersona]

This thread should be closed, as it is a blatant bait

[Cuppy]

I find it hilarious that most people who are against immigration, are also against global warming.
200 million Indians are ready to say hi!

[Dezerte]

No, it's not a hoax.

[HolgerDK]

Dont feed the troll.