CNN And New York Times FURIOUS After Trump Puts Them In Back Row Of Press Conference

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"From the guy who brought you covfefe"

[ohiostate124]

Lol please. That was Spicer having a little fun. You guys either read way too much into things, are insane, or both.

The fact that you take the covfefe thing as prove of anything just proves that Trump Derangement syndrome is real.

[Sky High]

Frankly, it only is a matter of principle.

It's become a room where lies are disseminated from the lectern. The media goes there to put the Trump administration's lies on record.

This is an administration so pathological, so far gone, it actually said, from that lectern "Covfefe" meant something to a select group of people.

They couldn't say "Trump was typing 'coverage' from his bed and fell asleep mid-tweet", which would have been the most human story about Trump in 2 years.

The Covfefe was significant because it illustrated that this illegitimate administration will lie about even the most trivial of matters. So it's not like there is much being lost other than the opportunity to ask questions, to get them to lie further.

oh yeah no matter what shade or bullshit Trump and his admin throw at the news media they need to fight and stick around doing their jobs. cuz you sure as hell can't count on those clowns over at Fox News who trump apparently calls up on a semi regular basis to ask for advice.

[Skroe]

Lol please. That was Spicer having a little fun. You guys either read way too much into things, are insane, or both.

The fact that you take the covfefe thing as prove of anything just proves that Trump Derangement syndrome is real.

Yeah... an Administration that has told something around 600 lies in 130 days doesn't get to "have a little fun" (they also weren't).

And the biggest lie yet... the one about the Tapes (existing)... you realize what that's going to do to the administration?

Well here's a preview:

[Felya]

oh yeah no matter what shade or bullshit Trump and his admin throw at the news media they need to fight and stick around doing their jobs. cuz you sure as hell can't count on those clowns over at Fox News who trump apparently calls up on a semi regular basis to ask for advice.

We need all kinds of news, from BrietBart and InfoWars to CNN and Fox. The more of them you have, the more canarys you have. Once government starts fighting with news, be it Breitbart or CNN, we have a problem. Government should never abridge freedom of the press. Not in their rhetoric or action. As soon as we see a canary being killed off by the smog, we need to get the hell out of that mine.

[Sky High]

Trump voters: nah it's totally ok for our boy Donny to demand people be loyal to him so he can MAGA!

god I hate the team politics in this country.

[Tijuana]

Trump voters: nah it's totally ok for our boy Donny to demand people be loyal to him so he can MAGA!

god I hate the team politics in this country.

What proof is there, of this wild accusation? Show some proof before you expect people to think it was wrong. Also, as bizarre as it would be, if it were true, it's certainly not illegal. Therefore, if we are just searching for stupid shit Trump says, put this on the pile over there. I'll get the ladder.

I find it amusing that you say you hate team politics, yet are completely engaged in it, by claiming things are true that have not been confirmed.

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Yeah... an Administration that has told something around 600 lies in 130 days doesn't get to "have a little fun" (they also weren't).

And the biggest lie yet... the one about the Tapes (existing)... you realize what that's going to do to the administration?

Well here's a preview:

You post is devoid of facts. Trump never said there were tapes. He said Comey better hope there were no tapes that refute Comey's statement. As crazy as it sounds on the surface, it worked BRILLIANTLY. Comey completely changed his tune under oath, from what he was leaking before Trump said this. Talk of tapes clearly scared him straight.

What is your basis for saying: doesn't get to "have a little fun"? What makes you think they can't do that? What authority mechanism are you citing with this statement? Yes, they get to have fun, and the fun police (DNC) can't do anything about it.

Also, who put the NYT on a pedestal? Why makes them superior to other outlets; why do they need to sit in front? The so-called "paper of record" did not print a SINGLE retraction after Comey spoke, even though he refuted MONTHS of fake news stories about a Trump investigation that factually did not exist. IMO, they are lucky their press pass did not get suspended after the Comey testimony. The ONLY reason they didn't get their credentials suspended, is that by that standard, the room would be empty.

[Jastall]

Really? I find him to be OUTRAGEOUSLY biased against all things GOP, despite his constant claims of the contrary.

There's a vast gulf between more classical conservatism and whatever the fuck most of the GOP is trying to peddle these days.

Skroe seems more like the kind of guy we'd call a Conservative here in Canada. A set of ideas I often disagree with, but that I can at least respect as a coherent ideology, rather than a bunch of reactionary bullshit where the entire thought process seems to be ''let's oppose whatever we think the liberals like so we can watch them rage, then be completely unable to form actual policies ourselves''.

[Theinquisition]

There's a vast gulf between more classical conservatism and whatever the fuck most of the GOP is trying to peddle these days.

Skroe seems more like the kind of guy we'd call a Conservative here in Canada. A set of ideas I often disagree with, but that I can at least respect as a coherent ideology, rather than a bunch of reactionary bullshit where the entire thought process seems to be ''let's oppose whatever we think the liberals like so we can watch them rage, then be completely unable to form actual policies ourselves''.

Leftists do the same thing.

You know, it would help if both sides were willing to admit that they arent perfect and have let the lunatic fringes dictate the nature of our conversations.

[Draco-Onis]

Yes, you can have it both ways. On the one hand, he is an outsider who does things differently, on the other hand, his inexperience leads to him shooting himself in the foot a lot.

What is confusing to you, a hard core partisan, is you can't accept that anyone across the aisle does things and holds positions that you may sometimes agree with. To you, and people like you, EVERYTHING the other side does is bad, and is done with ill intentions. That's a sad way to live your life, imo.

Say what now? him shooting himself in the foot has more to do with Trump being stuck in reality star mode instead of president mode. Trump has some good people in his cabinet he chooses not to listen to them. His inexperience is no excuse for him not reading the bills and being more involved in the political process. You should stop giving him a pass at everything he does, you are worse than the people who would flip whenever I would criticize Obama.

[Tijuana]

There's a vast gulf between more classical conservatism and whatever the fuck most of the GOP is trying to peddle these days.

Skroe seems more like the kind of guy we'd call a Conservative here in Canada. A set of ideas I often disagree with, but that I can at least respect as a coherent ideology, rather than a bunch of reactionary bullshit where the entire thought process seems to be ''let's oppose whatever we think the liberals like so we can watch them rage, then be completely unable to form actual policies ourselves''.

Yeah, we chatted more about it, and it turns out he is from Massachusetts so, it was just a mix up. He didn't know Conservatives from there, are to the left of Liberals from say, Texas. He posted like 9 threads he though were super hard right, and it read like moderate Democrat stuff to me lol. I would say his ideology is in the ball park of someone like say, Joe Manchin of Best Virginia.

[Jastall]

Leftists do the same thing.

You know, it would help if both sides were willing to admit that they arent perfect and have let the lunatic fringes dictate the nature of our conversations.

Oh, you won't hear me say the American political system is anything but deeply fucked-up, but I'll kinda agree with Skroe there and say that it has spawned at least in part from the disinterest of large swathes of the population. Barely 50% of Americans voted in 2016, that's a low turnout rate by any standard. So the people who vote are mostly composed of rabid Democrats or Republicans, and maybe 10-15 million people who swing from places to places. It's a completely stagnant, corrupt system that encourages parties to appeal to their base above all else, and just worry about moderate electors when they need to, IE in swing states.

Not like any system is perfect, ours in Canada certainly isn't by any means. But you guys seem stuck in a quagmire of partisanship, and Trump is most definitely not going to help cure that, quite the contrary methinks.

[Tijuana]

Say what now? him shooting himself in the foot has more to do with Trump being stuck in reality star mode instead of president mode. Trump has some good people in his cabinet he chooses not to listen to them. His inexperience is no excuse for him not reading the bills and being more involved in the political process. You should stop giving him a pass at everything he does, you are worse than the people who would flip whenever I would criticize Obama.

What is your source for any of these wild claims? What is your source that he doesn't listen to his cabinet when they speak? What is your source for him not reading the bills he signs?

[TEHPALLYTANK]

@Jastall Just to correct your numbers a bit, voter turnout was around 58% of eligible voters (keep in mind there are literally millions of people who aren't eligible to vote due to the 13th Amendment stripping their voting rights).

The whole thing with our political spectrum is that we've moved so far to the right of the standard political spectrum. What most countries would consider to be the center-right is regarded as the left in the US.

[Draco-Onis]

What is your source for any of these wild claims? What is your source that he doesn't listen to his cabinet when they speak? What is your source for him not reading the bills he signs?

My source is Donald Trump whenever they have asked him about the AHCA it's obvious he doesn't know what is in it. How many times have you seen this play? The administration responds to a situation in a thoughtful and careful manner, Spicer, Pence keep the narrative only to have Trump go the opposite way. If you want a more recent example look at what is going with Qatar, Trump says the opposite of what Rex Tilerson says on the same day.

There's a rather long list of times Trump has gone rogue, you obviously are not paying attention.

[Theinquisition]

@Jastall Just to correct your numbers a bit, voter turnout was around 58% of eligible voters (keep in mind there are literally millions of people who aren't eligible to vote due to the 13th Amendment stripping their voting rights).

The whole thing with our political spectrum is that we've moved so far to the right of the standard political spectrum. What most countries would consider to be the center-right is regarded as the left in the US.

Maybe everyone else moved to the left.

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@Jastall Just to correct your numbers a bit, voter turnout was around 58% of eligible voters (keep in mind there are literally millions of people who aren't eligible to vote due to the 13th Amendment stripping their voting rights).

The whole thing with our political spectrum is that we've moved so far to the right of the standard political spectrum. What most countries would consider to be the center-right is regarded as the left in the US.

If youre referring to criminals voting, the majority of Americans are okay with them not having that right.


Don't wanna lose a right to vote, stay out of trouble

[Tijuana]

My source is Donald Trump whenever they have asked him about the AHCA it's obvious he doesn't know what is in it. How many times have you seen this play? The administration responds to a situation in a thoughtful and careful manner, Spicer, Pence keep the narrative only to have Trump go the opposite way. If you want a more recent example look at what is going with Qatar, Trump says the opposite of what Rex Tilerson says on the same day.

There's a rather long list of times Trump has gone rogue, you obviously are not paying attention.

I see. I was confused. I thought you were intending to state facts, not your opinion. My fault.

[Draco-Onis]

I see. I was confused. I thought you were intending to state facts, not your opinion. My fault.

Sorry those are facts I don't subscribe to alternative facts.




but keep pretending it's not happening and giving Trump a pass at everything.

[TEHPALLYTANK]

If youre referring to criminals voting, the majority of Americans are okay with them not having that right.

Don't wanna lose a right to vote, stay out of trouble

So you think getting charged with possession of a few grams of marijuana a decade ago in a state where it is now legal for recreational use, is sufficient reason to forever lose your right to vote?

Another pair of questions to consider: Can you honestly say you've never done anything illegal? Or is it just you haven't been caught doing anything illegal?

[Jastall]

@Jastall Just to correct your numbers a bit, voter turnout was around 58% of eligible voters (keep in mind there are literally millions of people who aren't eligible to vote due to the 13th Amendment stripping their voting rights).

The whole thing with our political spectrum is that we've moved so far to the right of the standard political spectrum. What most countries would consider to be the center-right is regarded as the left in the US.

58% is still low, about 10% lower than in most recent major elections I have knowledge of.

As for the second part of your post, well there's that too. I would be considered center, mayyyybe center-left on some issues here, but my views in the US would out me as downright socialist. And I don't even want to know how you guys would respond to the people marked as heavily left-leaning here.

Some of the above is obviously just due to differences in values, which are to be expected and aren't a bad thing. But the US is definitely more right-wing than almost any other democracy.