People like to ignore certain factors when loved ones are involved. I mean no one likes to lose people they love and care about. But that doesnt excuse what the victim might have done in that situation. If its true he brandished a knife at the cop then its her fault. The quotes about a family member feeling like they could have taken her down easy if they were in that situation is them living in a fantasy world. Chances are if someone has a weapon there going to get a few hits in before you subdue them. And if its something as deadly as a knife you could lose your life for no reason if it hits the wrong place.
If what the cops say is true they did the right thing. Despite what you see in the movies tasers dont just instantly bring people down. If you threaten to Tazz someone who already has their weapon out chances are they can rush you and get a few stabs in b4 you can react. Also you dont know if shes on drugs and can be resistant to it. The gun was the best option both as a threat to keep the person from doing anything out of the ordinary and to protect themselves from harm. Unfortunately she did something out of the ordinary and they reacted.
Its not mandatory and these cops should not go to jail for the decision they made. I think the reasoning for their decision should be looked at and the training future cops receive should be updated to reflect any new information.
If they weren't equipped with tasers and pepper spray then we need to make sure our cops are given all the tools they need to make appropriate decisions.
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Don't wave a knife around and you won't get fucking shot. BLM won't care though. A guy could go out and kill several cops and still be defended by them. Oh wait, that already happened.
Actually, yeah.
Plenty of instances of white men with knives and guns, and they don't get shot (or just shot with taser)...including those having a history with police and mental health problems.
A small sampling (first guy had an arrest record)...
Bonus video - two guys (one white, one black) walk around in a legal open carry area. Minor difference in treatment...
If you think race doesn't play a factor, you are either ignorant of the facts or outright delusional...
Again. Information you don't have, and are making huge assumptions about.
We know both officers discharged their weapons, and she was fatally wounded. We don't know what led to that point, or how the scene played out. It could have been an execution, or it could have been a mentally ill woman charging the police with a knife. There's no way of knowing with the information given in the article.
This is why body cams are important, and should be mandatory all across the US.
You realize this is the same motte and bailey involved in racists' claims that black people are violent right? You move from the hyperbolic statement of X are Y and then when confronted with the stupidity involved, move back to the more defensible position of differing rates between the two populations or X are more likely to be Y than Z are. It's a bit of sophistry so I'm not surprised this was followed by a "you people are violent".
Last I checked getting shot with a gun is generally more fatal than getting shot with pepper spray. Could it have killed her? Sure. So could tackling someone or tazing someone or shooting them with a nonlethal weapon like a beanbag gun. They aren't in the same realm of likelihood though.
Ive been pepper sprayed and seen kids in juvi sprayed while fighting. In neither case would it have rendered any of us unable to stab someone. It takes time to really kick in. The teenagers kept fighting and i had to run an obstacle course and do minor tasks under the effects. I dont think many cops have any faith that it would stop someone who needed to be stopped immediately and/or was armed with a deadly weapon.
The problem is that she was probably holding the knife in case the burglar was around to protect herself.
Edit: Apparently finding a case of a black guy getting shot and a white guy not getting shot is irrefutable evidence..
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This is half-true, but it's mostly an exaggeration. The work Roland Fryer did makes it pretty clear that police are not more likely to shoot black suspects. They are more likely to use various other forms of force, but only by ~20%, which doesn't look anything like the exaggerated caricature of racist cops that's portrayed by BLM.
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I'm not conceding this point - there's very mixed evidence on it, with the most recent study saying the opposite:
Now to the shooting scenarios. With all other variables constant, “officers took significantly longer to shoot armed black suspects than armed white suspects,” an average of 0.23 seconds slower, James wrote. When looking at shooting errors, where an unarmed suspect is wrongly shot, “officers were significantly less likely to shoot unarmed black suspects than unarmed white suspects.” Of the wrongful shootings, white people were shot 54 times and black people were shot twice.
At this point it's hard to take claims of racism seriously when people shout it in any instance in which a black criminal gets shot. The race of the police officer doesn't even matter, the cop could be a minority as well or even black and we'll still see the left attribute it to racism lol. By pretty much labeling so much as racism, without actually providing an explanation and using only sweeping generalizations (like posting videos where the cops are nice to white people) liberals are doing more harm than actually helping.