German police raid 36 homes over hateful postings on social media

[Mifuyne]

You wouldn't want to live in a world where there was no USA. I can assure you that.

Unless you can tell us exactly how that would be with facts backing up your claims, this is just a silly argument

[G3istly]

Wow, Germany. What the hell happened to you?

They're trying way too hard to makeup for Nazi Germany by becoming Nazi Germany against their own citizens.

[Freighter]

The same goes for every system that was ever in use, capitalism is the cause of millions of deaths too. But no one wants to do much about that as it would cut into our wealth and it mostly happens across the planet so we aren't really bothered by it that much.
But that wasn't really the point of what i said any way. Point is that there is a big difference between the two.

The means are the same. Unwanted people are taken care of, one way or another. The difference lies in who is deemed unwanted. Both ideologies are undesirable.

[Mifuyne]

Well for one we wouldn't be talking on this website right now.

Yes, we might have even a better form of what we have today.
Or we might not, just general assumptions doesn't make something true.
Again, people thinking in black and/or white.

[Nathanyel]

No, I do think that. I'm questioning why the person i was quoting believes that someone wearing a Nazi symbol supports Nazism, but a person wearing a communist symbol doesn't support Communism.

Again, I do not want to defend the governments that called themselves communistic, and I do agree that their symbols shouldn't be used in a light manner, especially when you don't realize the full extent of what these governments did, but in the end, it's about perception: The Nazis blew their firepower in one comparatively short war, and used the everliving shit out of the swastika, it was everywhere. Hammer&Sickle, on the other hand, I mostly know from Cold War propaganda, you know, the decades the Soviet Empire took to topple itself.
The "capitalistic west" had no need to ban their symbols, as few people would have the guts to use them west of the Iron Curtain in the midst of the red scare.
Yes, "Communism" may or may not have killed a similar amount of people, and may or may not have had a similarly destabilizing effect on the world, but its symbols never held as much, well, symbolism as the swastika did.
Again, it's not a good thing that soviet symbols are not banned per se, but it's also something that rarely anyone cares about.

PS: the USSR also kept up the pretense that they are "for the people" (a.k.a. the original spirit of communism) way too long, and was further romanticized by the generation of '68. Publicity is everything.

[Deleted]

I think it's right because racism creates friction in society. Someone else thinks it's wrong because people should be allowed to speak their minds freely. How do we determine who is actually right from an objective point of view when it comes down to personal preferences and opinions?

You think I'm wrong because of your personal preferences, I think I'm right because of my personal preferences.

So if someone told you that supporting Jews was racist against the German people and that the punishment was to be sent to a concentration camp or in extreme cases, death.

Would you still support German laws then?

Because this is exactly what you're saying right now, that if you happened to have been living in late 1930s - 1940s Germany that you would've given your overwhelming support for Nazi laws because they are laws elected by the government.

Curious.

Just to clarify on my own views that I see every single person as a human being, I despise culture, I despise religion and I despise money. You are all human beings to me, but I love to point out the irony in the things that people like to say about things.

I couldn't give a shit about politics, what skin color somebody just so happened to be born with or their religion because it's all meaningless to me.

[Tehshocka]

Unless you can tell us exactly how that would be with facts backing up your claims, this is just a silly argument

This is a silly statement and you know it.

#1 Economy in the world.
#1 Military in the world.
People come to the US for a lot of next generation medical procedures


We have the most money, power, and ability to heal. We tend to share these things. You really think Europe can fend for itself without the US? World War 2 Calls.

[Deleted]

I think it's you who clearly does not know their history. Do you think the German National Socialist party and Hitler came to power via a platform of exterminating Jews and others? No, that came later, as it did with the communists.

But yes yes of course the red scare, let's just excuse the deaths of over 100 million people because of some crazy American fucks in the 50s and 60s.

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Wow that's some solid logic right there.

You think, but you are wrong, it was, to take from a current phrase "to make Germany great again", was their ticket to leadership. The Jews where used as a scape goat from the start. And if you want to use the correct term then it would be "just like with state capitalism" because that is what they where, there was nothing communistic about it.

Right, the red scare didn't do anything to put Communism in a bad light, and pointing this out clearly excuses the deaths of millions.

[Freighter]

So if someone told you that supporting Jews was racist against the German people and that the punishment was to be sent to a concentration camp or in extreme cases, death.

Would you still support German laws then?

Because this is exactly what you're saying right now, that if you happened to have been living in late 1930s - 1940s Germany that you would've given your overwhelming support for Nazi laws because they are laws elected by the government.

Curious.

No, I am stating my personal preference/opinion. Should I use "I prefer" instead of "I think it's right" so you won't argue semantics?

Supporting jews can't be racist against germans anyhow.

[Tehshocka]

So if someone told you that supporting Jews was racist against the German people and that the punishment was to be sent to a concentration camp or in extreme cases, death.

Would you still support German laws then?

Because this is exactly what you're saying right now, that if you happened to have been living in late 1930s - 1940s Germany that you would've given your overwhelming support for Nazi laws because they are laws elected by the government.

Curious.

They don't realize this is what they are essentially supporting. Just change the ethnic groups.

[Mifuyne]

This is a silly statement and you know it.

#1 Economy in the world.
#1 Military in the world.
People come to the US for a lot of next generation medical procedures
We have the most money, power, and ability to heal. We tend to share these things. You really think Europe can fend for itself without the US? World War 2 Calls.

Zzz, comparing what is our current truth to a fictional event.
It just happened to be the way as it now is, it could've been a lot better and a lot worse.

It means you're so out of touch with reality that you can't see the world be any better if the US wasn't there.
Sad, so very sad.

[Deleted]

The means are the same. Unwanted people are taken care of, one way or another. The difference lies in who is deemed unwanted. Both ideologies are undesirable.

Same goes for capitalism, its just that the victims of capitalism live across the world.

[Freighter]

They don't realize this is what they are essentially supporting. Just change the ethnic groups.

Punishing racists doesn't mean you're targeting germans for being germans.

[Tehshocka]

Zzz, comparing what is our current truth to a fictional event.

Current truth?

Are you an idiot?

A quick google search would prove each of the items listed true.

Only until God Emperor Trump flew to Europe to tell everyone to pay their fair share of defense spending, almost every single freaking country relied on their defense from the US.

Stop being obtuse and ignorant just to "feel" like you are correct.

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Punishing racists doesn't mean you're targeting germans for being germans.

Punishing Jews doesn't mean you're targeting germans for being germans.

[Mifuyne]

Current truth?
Are you an idiot?
A quick google search would prove each of the items listed true.
Only until God Emperor Trump flew to Europe to tell everyone to pay their fair share of defense spending, almost every single freaking country relied on their defense from the US.
Stop being obtuse and ignorant just to "feel" like you are correct.

So you are saying that someone has gone into another dimension and witnessed a world without the US?
BUT WHAT IF EUROPE WAS NEVER THERE, WOULD THE US BE THERE?
Zzz

[Freighter]

Punishing Jews doesn't mean you're targeting germans for being germans.

How does that even make any sense as a response to my post?

[Damajin]

More reasons why anyone with a brain should gtfo of Germany.

[Uselessrouge]

Wow, Germany. What the hell happened to you?

you need to love immigrants or your a nazi...

guess im a nazi cause i dont want them to come over since they dont know how to adapt... well dont care call me nazi still better then the shit that is happening to germany or what is left of it... time to move to switzerland i guess

[Tehshocka]

So you are saying that someone has gone into another dimension and witnessed a world without the US?

Oh so you do want to play dumb.

Remove the #1 economy and consumer group any population and see what that does to the population. Let alone military might.

[Mifuyne]

you need to love imigrants or your a nazi...
guess im a nazi cause i dont want them to come over since they dont know how to adapt... well dont care call me nazi still better then the shit that is happening to germany

Or you know, you're in the middle of both a immigrant lover and a nazi.

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Oh so you do want to play dumb.
Remove the #1 economy and consumer group any population and see what that does to the population. Let alone military might.

Zzz, fictional stories.
Can you reply to my question?
If Europe might not have existed, what then?
What would happen to your precious #1 IN THE WORLD YEAH MURICA YEAH