The Solution is it time for the USA...

[Zephyr Storm]

Must be a holiday in Europe or something. Everyone woke up and heavily drank and came into MMO Champion to post something they know nothing about. The grand stand of selective media viewing from afar and pretending to know what's going on is what I love most about your teddy bear nations.

I live here. When I walk into work today I can reach over and touch a hardcore trump guy. Next to him someone that leans right. Another that's a Muslim from the Iraq. Then a Dutch lady that's all about socialism. Myself that votes democrat. We all know these things about each other and disagree all the time. But we will still be eatting lunch and cutting up.

This civil war you dream up all the time is pretty fucking funny and is drummed up by extremists on both sides that rarely leave their mothers basements.

Exactly!

I work with people who are considered hardcore Democrats as well as people who are considered hardcore Republicans. I work with straight people and gay people. I work with white people born in America and foreigners who moved here for a better life. The list goes on and on.

And guess what? At the end of the day, we all get along. Because we're all smart enough to know that's what normal people have to do to make life go on.

Crazy notion, I know!

[Doctor Amadeus]

Must be a holiday in Europe or something. Everyone woke up and heavily drank and came into MMO Champion to post something they know nothing about. The grand stand of selective media viewing from afar and pretending to know what's going on is what I love most about your teddy bear nations.

I live here. When I walk into work today I can reach over and touch a hardcore trump guy. Next to him someone that leans right. Another that's a Muslim from the Iraq. Then a Dutch lady that's all about socialism. Myself that votes democrat. We all know these things about each other and disagree all the time. But we will still be eatting lunch today and cutting up nontheless.

This civil war you dream up all the time is pretty fucking funny and is drummed up by extremists on both sides that rarely leave their mothers basements.

That is called a bubble.

[Zephyr Storm]

Just stating the facts.

Random, crazy thoughts in your head do not count as facts. As this entire thread you've made proves. Just FYI.

[Cheze]

Funny, I don't recall them looting, ransacking, or killing people in the process. Just trying to stand their ground over what they considered government overreach.

But please go on acting like that incident is remotely comparable to the rioting, looting, and straight up killing that has happened in the name of liberal movements such as BLM.

they very much did 'loot and ransack' malheur wildlife refuge, and very publicly pointed long rifles at federal law enforcement

if BLM did anything remotely as extreme as those jokers the national guard would be called out

[Doctor Amadeus]

Random, crazy thoughts in your head do not count as facts. As this entire thread you've made proves. Just FYI.

You have a problem realizing the unimaginable, because I guess it is better to ignore what happens around you.

[Zephyr Storm]

That is called a bubble.

A bubble. Apparently you're living in one based on this entire thread.

[Doctor Amadeus]

Exactly!

I work with people who are considered hardcore Democrats as well as people who are considered hardcore Republicans. I work with straight people and gay people. I work with white people born in America and foreigners who moved here for a better life. The list goes on and on.

And guess what? At the end of the day, we all get along. Because we're all smart enough to know that's what normal people have to do to make life go on.

Crazy notion, I know!

This is called a bubble. and I work with the same, and all agree, that the U.S is coming to a end for one reason or another.

[Zephyr Storm]

they very much did 'loot and ransack' malheur wildlife refuge, and very publicly pointed long rifles at federal law enforcement

if BLM did anything remotely as extreme as those jokers the national guard would be called out

And yet looting and rioting has happened in several cities across the country, as well as several police officers and others getting killed......all being related in some way, shape, or form to BLM and/or the things they've talked about/promoted. Even if it wasn't BLM directly, it was someone who at least aligned with their way of thinking in some way.

But please go on comparing that to one incident in which the aggressive party didn't even kill anyone or cause any kind of widespread damage.

[Doctor Amadeus]

A bubble. Apparently you're living in one based on this entire thread.

Well I don't live in so much denial based on past experience or evidence no. The world is a very violent and volatile place, and it isn't just some extreme group, it's all of them.

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And yet looting and rioting has happened in several cities across the country, as well as several police officers and others getting killed......all being related in some way, shape, or form to BLM and/or the things they've talked about/promoted. Even if it wasn't BLM directly, it was someone who at least aligned with their way of thinking in some way.

Well police shootings all being related to the skin color of the cops and the justice department not being accountable for their officers. And if you think the fringe extremist on either side are a minority then you haven't learned anything over even the past year.

[tikcol]

This is why I'm a member of the Illuminati.

A world government is necessary for the survival of the human race and imagining fictional wars to separate countries into racial/religious little ones isn't the way forward.

[Zephyr Storm]

This is called a bubble. and I work with the same, and all agree, that the U.S is coming to a end for one reason or another.

Hahahahaha. Ok then.

So you've proven that there are actually other crazy ass people out there as well who will believe even the most idiotic of delusions.

That's actually kind of scary to know that there are enough of you to be considered a group that actually believes this shit.

[Cheze]

And yet looting and rioting has happened in several cities across the country, as well as several police officers and others getting killed......all being related in some way, shape, or form to BLM and/or the things they've talked about/promoted. Even if it wasn't BLM directly, it was someone who at least aligned with their way of thinking in some way.

But please go on comparing that to one incident in which the aggressive party didn't even kill anyone.

BLM (or associated/splinter groups) have not 1) seized control of a government facility 2) claimed the facility was theirs now and 3) threatened federal officials with violence merely for coming near. They haven't done any one of those things, nevermind all three at once.

whatever you think of the BLM is up to you, but the cliven bundy jokers are a whole other level of nutbar

[primalmatter]

Hahaha No when you are young and dumb a liberal you grow up to be an dumb conservative, who simply sold out because, you never had a clear knowledge of your choices on position to begin with.

Ideologies have always conflicted but fundamental ones, typically escalate.

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Well not so much any more, ask Alaska, Texas, and California.

Not how ot works my good friend.

When people stop being children and start to get responsibilities they just grow out of being democrats. Everyone naturally starts out leaning left. It isn't until you get a firm grasp of the real world that you shed the childish idealism it is based around.

[Zephyr Storm]

BLM (or associated/splinter groups) have not 1) seized control of a government facility 2) claimed the facility was theirs now and 3) threatened federal officials with violence merely for coming near. They haven't done any one of those things, nevermind all three at once.

whatever you think of the BLM is up to you, but the cliven bundy jokers are a whole other level of nutbar

Comparing any of that to actually murdering cops in cold blood....

Wow, you really need to get your critical thinking skills checked.

[Doctor Amadeus]

Hahahahaha. Ok then.

So you've proven that there are actually other crazy ass people out there as well who will believe even the most idiotic of delusions.

That's actually kind of scary to know that there are enough of you to be considered a group that actually believes this shit.

LOL ok, well you go ahead and bury your head in the sand and keep believing that people will just fall in line and go back to being friends. Because guess what those friends you keep talking about are feeding you a line of shit, because they are working with you.

Most people are not under the impression everything will be just fine, they like you hope it will.


I don''t know either way, but It's worth having a conversation about.

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Comparing any of that to actually murdering cops in cold blood....

Wow, you really need to get your critical thinking skills checked.

Well again they wouldn't need to get that kind of attention right, they have guns if they are white, more than likely they are going to get justice and listen to.

[Zephyr Storm]

Well I don't live in so much denial based on past experience or evidence no. The world is a very violent and volatile place, and it isn't just some extreme group, it's all of them.

*uses ideas and notions of the past (stuff like experiences and evidence) to create a thread about how that shit could happen in a modern day society like the US*

*proceeds to call out someone being in denial because they base stuff on past experiences and evidence*

Yep, seems to check out.

[Doctor Amadeus]

Not how ot works my good friend.

When people stop being children and start to get responsibilities they just grow out of being democrats. Everyone naturally starts out leaning left. It isn't until you get a firm grasp of the real world that you shed the childish idealism it is based around.

Then when they become senior citizens they become democrats again, seriously. The notion is silly and not true, if you end up a conservative you weren't a liberal to begin with or vice versa.

Or in the case of Conservatives you just move which ever way the wind is blowing.

[Zephyr Storm]

Well again they wouldn't need to get that kind of attention right, they have guns if they are white, more than likely they are going to get justice and listen to.

Alright, so you're going to add being anti-white racist to your growing repertoire of in-thread skills. Please continue, this is becoming highly amusing.

[Deleted]

I can see the US at some point fall apart into 3-4 separate nations:

- Conservative / Christian confederation
- Liberal Union
- Hispanic republic

At this rate, it could go down in the next 10-20 years by either voting or civil war.

Get rid of liberals, hispanics...oh wait, you can't cause USA is founded on multicultural beliefs. Who else thinks multiculturalism is great?

[Zephyr Storm]

I never thought about a split up USA. Could lead to some rather tense relationships on the continent itself, something the US hasn't really had to deal with a lot.

What I mean is: If the divide was made by political leaning, there will probably be an aggressor left. The part of the US that already is "pro-world-interventions" (also known as "give me your oil"). With such a player, the other states would need to employ military protection, and you could end up having a mini-cold-war, or at least a mexican standoff (pun intended) situation.
Thus while the citizens of each state after a break up would be more content with their own political landscape, the overall situation could be quite unstable. Also the economic issues. Sure, some very extensive trade treaties would surely be made in the process of breaking up, but I can already see states sanctioning each other, or at least place laws in unexpected corners the treaties didn't cover to fuck each other over, in an attempt to make the others more dependant, to ultimately gain the overall rulership again - be it only implicitly through power plays.

As a European, this could be very entertaining to watch. And it would probably lead to enough internal quarrels that the US would finally fade from the "world-police" duty it sees itself in. But for any American, I think such a "solution" would be a straight path to much darker times.

The US should rather fix its terrible education system and upgrade infrastructure in the more rural parts, and overall seek to be a leader of cutting edge technology they once were. Economic stability and an educated population are THE best two ways towards a peacefull nation.

And as a European, the far reaching effects and repercussions of something like that happening would ultimately fuck you over as well. But have fun watching the "entertainment" unfold before you as the rest of the world most likely starts to crumble as well. Or some other less desirable country moves up to take the place of "world police" in America's stead and you wind up with a much more hostile world than before.

Yeah, so "entertaining" to watch, let me tell ya!