How are Antifa not Nazis?

[NineSpine]

No. But I'm fucking lost on the logic where that invalidates it. Especially since the left is the "good" political side.

You are taking what amounts to a few minor incidents involving some stupid kids, and then acting like they represent an existential threat to the United States.

Do you know how often skinheads get into violent altercations? All the time. They get into street fights, bar fights, etc.. Those aren't the reason we think white power organizations are threatening. We think they are threatening because of the murders and deadly terrorist attacks they get involved in.

Anti-abortion violence is many times more common and more extreme than anything antifa has ever done, and do you really expect me to believe that you spedn 1/100th of the time talking about anti-abortion violence that you spend talking about antifa? Your preoccupation (obsession) with antifa is because you want to use it as a tool to push a political agenda, not because of genuine concern.

[Mekh]

Anti-abortion violence is many times more common and more extreme than anything antifa has ever done, and do you really expect me to believe that you spedn 1/100th of the time talking about anti-abortion violence that you spend talking about antifa? Your preoccupation (obsession) with antifa is because you want to use it as a tool to push a political agenda, not because of genuine concern.

Preach! /10ch

[Dextroden]

What exactly is the point you are trying to make here?

Antifa is shit. These hooligans are eventually going to kill somebody by sheer ineptitude.

And when they do, they will still be better by at least one order of magnitude compared to the blood Nazis and their follow-ups have on their hands.


Unless your point really is smashing a window and lynching a negro are just as bad and should be fought with the same intensity in which case: Fuck you.

See?! You call them stupid and then downplay what they do. That is the problem. They will kill people and you'll say it won't matter that someone was killed. That shit should be concerning for someone that pretends they care about people being lynched.

Fuck you for pretending you don't support Antifa violence.

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Welp. I have my confirmations. Political violence is now a good thing. How quaint.

[Mekh]

See?! You call them stupid and then downplay what they do. That is the problem. They will kill people and you'll say it won't matter that someone was killed. That shit should be concerning for someone that pretends they care about people being lynched.

Fuck you for pretending you don't support Antifa violence.

You are railing against antifa, because you've got an agenda to push as @NineSpine pointed out.

If you were truly concerned about human lives, you'd go protest something that's actually killing people right now. Like Neo-Nazis for instance.

[Dextroden]

You are railing against antifa, because you've got an agenda to push as @NineSpine pointed out.

If you were truly concerned about human lives, you'd go protest something that's actually killing people right now. Like Neo-Nazis for instance.

Hmm. No. I'd rather focus on hypocrites who cry about killing then preemptively justify killing.

[NineSpine]

Hmm. No. I'd rather focus on hypocrites who cry about killing then preemptively justify killing.

You mean anti-abortion activists?

[Mekh]

Hmm. No. I'd rather focus on hypocrites who cry about killing then preemptively justify killing.

You are the hypocrite here dying on that hill that one group that will in its stupidity kill sooner or later is a bigger issue than the group that has killed, is killing and will keep on killing.

You want to save a life? Go to some Planned Parenthood clinic under siege and escort a woman inside who just wants her mammogram done.

[Dextroden]

You mean anti-abortion activists?

Those too.

Definitely don't remember talking about abortion at all. So this is a funny one.

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You are the hypocrite here dying on that hill that one group that will in its stupidity kill sooner or later is a bigger issue than the group that has killed, is killing and will keep on killing.

You want to save a life? Go to some Planned Parenthood clinic under siege and escort a woman inside who just wants her mammogram done.

I'm not the one that approved of killing. That's you alone.

[NineSpine]

Those too.

Definitely don't remember talking about abortion at all. So this is a funny one.

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I'm not the one that approved of killing. That's you alone.

Yesterday a white supremacist was convicted for murdering a black man, and you want us to cry ourselves to sleep over some stupid kids breaking a window.

[Dextroden]

Yesterday a white supremacist was convicted for murdering a black man, and you want us to cry ourselves to sleep over some stupid kids breaking a window.

Fuck that guy. He's scum. Glad he's in jail.

Okay. Now what? That guy and a lot of actual Nazis being scum isn't news. And despite how stupid it is to be one, that alone is not a jailable offense. When they break the law, they deserve that cell posthaste.

Being Antifa isn't jailable offense either and the same standard applies. Break the law, down you go. My issue is because it is left wing extremism, people on the left will never address it because Nazis.

No one will fight me if I say Nazis are shit. People will fight tooth and nail to not have Antifa violence be a meaningful topic. Broken Windows are nothing, right? I wonder if that logic applies if a dude in a MAGA cap does it.

[NineSpine]

Fuck that guy. He's scum. Glad he's in jail.

Okay. Now what? That guy and a lot of actual Nazis being scum isn't news. And despite how stupid it is to be one, that alone is not a jailable offense. When they break the law, they deserve that cell posthaste.

Being Antifa isn't jailable offense either and the same standard applies. Break the law, down you go. My issue is because it is left wing extremism, people on the left will never address it because Nazis.

No one will fight me if I say Nazis are shit. People will fight tooth and nail to not have Antifa violence be a meaningful topic. Broken Windows are nothing, right? I wonder if that logic applies if a dude in a MAGA cap does it.

People on the left aren't concerned with extremism on the left because it manifests in stupid kids breaking windows, while extremism on the right manifests in falling buildings, mass murders, and bombings.

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Fuck that guy. He's scum. Glad he's in jail.

Okay. Now what? That guy and a lot of actual Nazis being scum isn't news. And despite how stupid it is to be one, that alone is not a jailable offense. When they break the law, they deserve that cell posthaste.

Being Antifa isn't jailable offense either and the same standard applies. Break the law, down you go. My issue is because it is left wing extremism, people on the left will never address it because Nazis.

No one will fight me if I say Nazis are shit. People will fight tooth and nail to not have Antifa violence be a meaningful topic. Broken Windows are nothing, right? I wonder if that logic applies if a dude in a MAGA cap does it.

Everyone on here is agreeing that antifa is dumb. Where we are differing is your demand that we consider them an existential threat to the republic on par with other organizations that regularly murder people.

[Dextroden]

People on the left aren't concerned with extremism on the left because it manifests in stupid kids breaking windows, while extremism on the right manifests in falling buildings, mass murders, and bombings.

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Everyone on here is agreeing that antifa is dumb. Where we are differing is your demand that we consider them an existential threat to the republic on par with other organizations that regularly murder people.

Who the fuck said existential threat? It's a problem.

I said it's a problem and all you got defensive and wanted to talk about Nazis.

Pop quiz. Nazis are terrible. Is the guy in the liberal tears shirt the same as the German SS soldier?

[NineSpine]

Who the fuck said existential threat? It's a problem.

I said it's a problem and all you got defensive and wanted to talk about Nazis.

Pop quiz. Nazis are terrible. Is the guy in the liberal tears shirt the same as the German SS soldier?

No, just like how the doofus smashing a window isn't the same as an abortion clinic bomber.

Here is the simple fact behind all of this: You view this as a neat little cudgel with which to push your political agenda, and that is why you are so concerned about it. If you were genuinely concerned about extremism, you would recognize antifa as a pathetic joke and be concerned with actual extremism, which is almost universally on the right in 2017.

What you are doing is like demanding that we consider rabies to be a serious health problem because it kills 2 or 3 people every year, and when we say "That's really not an issue when you consider we have cancer, heart disease, and diabetes", you say "WHY DON'T YOU CARE ABOUT THE RABIES VICTIMS???"

[Dextroden]

No, just like how the doofus smashing a window isn't the same as an abortion clinic bomber.

Here is the simple fact behind all of this: You view this as a neat little cudgel with which to push your political agenda, and that is why you are so concerned about it. If you were genuinely concerned about extremism, you would recognize antifa as a pathetic joke and be concerned with actual extremism, which is almost universally on the right in 2017.

What you are doing is like demanding that we consider rabies to be a serious health problem because it kills 2 or 3 people every year, and when we say "That's really not an issue when you consider we have cancer, heart disease, and diabetes", you say "WHY DON'T YOU CARE ABOUT THE RABIES VICTIMS???"

No. I'm just running against the doctors that demand a disease kill X patients before any attention is paid to it. Especially if the disease mutates when allowed to fester.

I don't see where I say cancer funding should be cut because rabies is a problem. But lo and behold. Talking about rabies in any capacity leads to people foaming at the mouth about cancer.

Cancer is horrible. How does that magically make rabies not a problem?

[cparle87]

Nazism, Fascism and Communism are are all forms of socialism and the Antifa claim to be the opposite. The thing they have in common is they are willing to act like thugs in order to force their ideology onto others.

Um... forgive my ignorance, but isn't Nazism (Nationalism) and Fascism in the far upper right, while Communism is on the far upper left?

https://www.growtopiagame.com/forums...0&d=1474996204

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A tirade of words nobody cares about

OP you're using so many words trying to make a smart point. But in the end all you accomplished was saying: How is black not white?

[Deleted]

I'm not even sure why I read all the posts in this thread... However, since when are left wing extremists =/= nazis? Extremely wide spectrum to generalize despite their views being interpretations of the same core principles while applied differently. National Socialism and Communism were both rooted in the same principles but no one would dare to compare them now let along at the time when they were dominating political ideologies.

[Celista]

I've been thinking about making this thread for awhile now because this has been troubling me and I finally decided to do it.

Lemme cut through all the bullshit for you. No one on the left talks, cares or even knows about Antifa. It is literally some ultra fringe left wing shit that right-wing media has blown up into a big to-do. I can tell you get your "news" from right-wing news sites based on your mention of Antifa alone. Get your news elsewhere.

I even made a thread about the fact that Fox News is pulling known internet trolls that claim to be Antifa supporters to interview for their news stories. You can look that up yourself.

Worrying about and equating the left with Antifa is the equivalent of liberals equating everyone on the right as neo-Nazis. Does the right have neo-Nazis? Sure. Is EVERYONE on the right a neo-Nazi? Lol, no. Like Antifa, it is an extreme fringe group.

Take a step back and maybe don't believe every ounce of garbage you read in the news as truth.

[Dextroden]

Lemme cut through all the bullshit for you. No one on the left talks, cares or even knows about Antifa. It is literally some ultra fringe left wing shit that right-wing media has blown up into a big to-do. I can tell you get your "news" from right-wing news sites based on your mention of Antifa alone. Get your news elsewhere.

I even made a thread about the fact that Fox News is pulling known internet trolls that claim to be Antifa supporters to interview for their news stories. You can look that up yourself.

Worrying about and equating the left with Antifa is the equivalent of liberals equating everyone on the right as neo-Nazis. Does the right have neo-Nazis? Sure. Is EVERYONE on the right a neo-Nazi? Lol, no. Like Antifa, it is an extreme fringe group.

Take a step back and maybe don't believe every ounce of garbage you read in the news as truth.

An extreme fringe group that is supposed to control the government, according to Trump=Hitler logic.

[Zython]

Well, let me ask a question. Are anti-fascists trying to create a white ethnostate? If not, they're not Nazis.