Are you going to quit if they decide to keep titanforge?

[Daedius]

I absolutely hate the RNG-fest that Legion brought, TF''ing being one of them. Honestly find it retarded that items can proc to current ilvl cap. People, and as such Guilds, are compelled to run old raids for the chance of procs... all in the name of appeasing the whiners wanting to keep things relevant -- fuck that, procs should have NEVER gone beyond +10 from the base ilvl, this current system is removing the incentive of trying harder content.

[Dracullus]

No, I will quit only if loading screen will be mix of blue and yellow colors. If it will be just blue, I reconsider it.

For sure expansion theme, quality of content that I'll see in beta or even my feelings if I still like to play WoW or MMOs in general won't be deciding factors if I buy it or not.

[Deleted]

Whats wrong with titanforge??

[MoanaLisa]

It's more about how Titanforging greatly exacerbates power creep, and the problem with huge numbers that WoW has been suffering through.

With the resets they can now do, big numbers aren't a problem. If it's a problem now it's one of perception.

Power creep is one of the ways they're keeping the game interesting. If upgrades went back to 1-2% upgrades throughout an expansion the complaining about that would totally drown out the noise over big numbers. Even if you converted all health and damage to some percentage basis and hid the underlying numbers power creep would be precisely the same as it is now.

People, and as such Guilds, are compelled to run old raids for the chance of procs...

Sounds like a personal problem to me.

[DeltrusDisc]

I've already quit because of it. I'm not coming back until it's gone from the game.

That's hilarious. If you're happy, though, you do you.

[Runewrath]

I think the loot system as a whole needs to be revamped again. Between legendaries and titanforged there's just too much RNG if you want to be a competitive player. But if you're just casual titanforged probably benefits you more than anything. But fuck the legendary system.

[Kralljin]

Mythic raiders are just mad that a pleb may get something the same ilvl as them once in the expansion (seriously, i've seen maybe 2-4 drops in heroic that were at mythic level, and lfr to mythic? that's the damn holy grail)

Couldn't give a rats arse about someone raiding LFR getting a 955 piece.

However in mythic raiding itself i just consider it a disgrace that the hardest difficulty in the game basically only increases your chances of getting the best possible gear.

In MoP / WoD the difference was 7 Ilvl (And a Socket), now we're talking about a 25 Ilvl difference (including socket), that is a whole tier of difference.

If any non Mythic raider get their lucky day, congratz but on mythic difficulty i would hope that the Loot wouldn't have that massive power gap.

[Daedius]

Sounds like a personal problem to me.

Not really. I'm seeing a LOT of guilds raiding all difficulties, just to chance for them procs.

I have been a high-end tier raider since WotLK, and refuse to burn myself out with this stupid system. Suffice to say, it didn't take long to be demoted to social.

[ariusbb]

Doesn't really make a huge difference for me.... Its just a different thing as the game advances...

[Flatspriest]

Why would I quit from a game I enjoy just because of an RNG affix on gear? Only a child would throw a tantrum and claim they were going to quit over such a banal thing.

[Raetary]

no
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[druenos]

Don't care about it in the slightest.

Find it funny that people do though.

Only elitists care about it really, it fucks up their desire for BIS,I can't help laughing at them lol

[Radaney]

Nope, don't really see any negatives with it as a whole.

I'm not a fan of random systems though so I'd prefer getting a token or something you could put on loot to increase it's ilevel or something to avoid getting a peice of garbage WF/TF you don't want.

[Hctaz]

Not the system that makes me quit. Now if the exact same legendary system makes its way to 8.0...

Honestly, idk why people would quit over TF and not the bullshit legendary crap

The legendary system is not nearly as bad as titanforging. Yeah it sucks in the beginning but when you get your BiS you're basically over. When the new legendary items came out this last patch, I only had one more to get in my main spec and that was with having 4 for my offspec already.

Titanforging means that OP trinket from the beginning of the expansion needs to get powercreeped every single new raid tier or else you're stuck farming it forever. That's way worse because even if you get an 895 Chaos Talisman during EN, you gotta get a 925 in NH and then a 955 in ToS and then an x in Antorus.... so it's actually cancer.

[Santti]

Honestly, I like it, and I wish they continued with Titanforge. Keeps content relevant. There is always a reason you might want to do more mythics or previous tier raids. If you feel you must do all of that 24/7 and burn out doing so, that's on you.

[Irefusetodie]

Titanforging itself isn't an issue. Being "forced" to clear every difficulty of previous content for TF chances and legendary BLP is the problem. When people are still clearing M-EN every week for a chance at a high TF Bloodthirsty Instinct, there's a problem. They should've made it so items from previous content can only TF up to the next level of content, so M-EN titanforges up to M-NH ilvl.

[Accendor]

You are missing a option in your vote: I would actually quit IF they remove it, because I love the system.

[GutsAP]

Titanforging itself isn't an issue. Being "forced" to clear every difficulty of previous content for TF chances and legendary BLP is the problem. When people are still clearing M-EN every week for a chance at a high TF Bloodthirsty Instinct, there's a problem. They should've made it so items from previous content can only TF up to the next level of content, so M-EN titanforges up to M-NH ilvl.

Why? People are always complaining that as soon as a new tier comes out the old ones are useless, now you get even more content to run, be happy.

[Tradu]

It's a shit system and should be removed/heavily limited, but it's just contributing to the pile of shit decisions that are slowly driving me towards quitting, but it's most likely not gonna do it on its own.

[Accendor]

Mythic raiders are just mad that a pleb may get something the same ilvl as them once in the expansion (seriously, i've seen maybe 2-4 drops in heroic that were at mythic level, and lfr to mythic? that's the damn holy grail)

But I am also a mythic raider and I like it... My whole raid team likes it. Has nothing to do with being a mythic raider at all.