Sorry your mythic+ score is too low?

[Ealyssa]

Say hello to the new Gearscore.
Where the higher the number the "better" you are at the game.

Except gearscore was based on gear. M+ score is based on what you achieved as a player. Way more accurate way to rank people.

[Marrilaife]

I have not experienced this yet, luckily.

I opened the group finder on a Saturday evening, section dungeons and typed "15" in, which actually shows not only 15 keys but basically anything from 12 to 16 range plus extra randoms like "+7 we have 915 ilvl leader". So, the breakdown was like:

~40% of groups were "checking wowprog" "link your wowprogress" "1.8+ / 2k+ score" etc.
~30% of groups were "selling our 15 key for your gold / wowtoken"
The remainder of the groups were not one of the above, with ilvl requirement hanging from 910 to 930+

It's a complete roulette if you manage to get into a decent group or not, I finally managed to do a 15 for weekly on my hunter and it wasn't even in time because tank had blindfolds and kept pulling when healer had no mana or was too far away, seriously this is NOT the way to speed a dungeon up. I'm glad healer didn't ragequit and we actually finished it, because he was quite annoyed.

[Gemini Soul]

Except gearscore was based on gear. M+ score is based on what you achieved as a player. Way more accurate way to rank people.

Not really because of those other 4 players who can either suck, on par with you, or carry you.

[Bryntrollian]

Not really because of those other 4 players who can either suck, on par with you, or carry you.

The higher the M+ score the less likely it is they were carried, which is 1000 times more accurate than Gearscore.

[glowpipe]

Did you read the part on the "Only top 10 clears" are registered by the API. If your run was 101'st it won't show.

Well, that only strengthens my claim that you can't use wowprogress to see if a person is capable of doing shit. You can still clear a 15 key with ease even tho your run wasn't among the top 100.

I got a warlock friend. He pugs 15 keys every week. His m+ score on wowprogress is 800 ish. He has no problems. I guess you just need to avoid the tryhards that get nowhere.

[Deja Thoris]

Well, that only strengthens my claim that you can't use wowprogress to see if a person is capable of doing shit. You can still clear a 15 key with ease even tho your run wasn't among the top 100.

I got a warlock friend. He pugs 15 keys every week. His m+ score on wowprogress is 800 ish. He has no problems. I guess you just need to avoid the tryhards that get nowhere.

Your claim is useless. No tool is perfect, doesn't mean it doesn't have uses.

[glowpipe]

Your claim is useless. No tool is perfect, doesn't mean it doesn't have uses.

How is my claim useless ? People use this tool to get people into their group for a fast mythic +. And while doing so, they basically get rid of 95% of the people who can actually do a fast mythic+. (plus the bad ones ofcourse)

Its like hiring a new "fry cook" for McDonalds and going into the burger world championship top 10 list to find one. Sure. you find 10 dudes who can make burgers, but you still neglect the remaining millions who also can do the job you are listing.

[Planetdune]

I only ever did a few mythic for quests and nothing above +7 (in the old difficulty, I know they retconned diff levels). How is my score?

[Devilyaki]

It is just more garbage that's ruining the game.

[stomination]

So I run a mythic+ dungeon every week normally if I can complete a 13+ or higher im satisfied and I only do one mythic+ dungeon a week. But lately, I'm noticing that a lot of people are telling me that I have a low mythic+ score or it's not high enough. I didnt even know there was such a thing. How do I improve my mythic+ score? Can someone help?

You basically run high mythic + for every dungeon.

Which i find funny because I dont do half the dungeons because there is nothing in them that I want. So it makes a low mythic + score. And even then i just do my 15 and move on.

System is flawed.

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Except gearscore was based on gear. M+ score is based on what you achieved as a player. Way more accurate way to rank people.

Sort of but like my other post said. Some of us dong need to do some dungeons so we avoid them. Yet not doing them means ur missing some mythic + score.

[Seidhe]

Say hello to the new Gearscore.
Where the higher the number the "better" you are at the game.

Actually you are better if u have m+ score for more chances than other Joe with lower m+ score.
It works like choosing one of two uknwon persons in raid. You will choose soemone with better gear or achievements. Same here.
Words means nothing. I agree that sometimes numbers may be worng. But genereally if u choose person with better gear/achievements/m+score or anything they would make in future to count ur progress you will have better player in more than 50% cases.

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It is just more garbage that's ruining the game.

well it is just more tools to help leader to take right person.
If we dont have ones some casual freaks can blindly get invites to ruin others exp. It might be you if u talking this XD

[Otimus]

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

The more accessible the game is made, the more the community will find ways to make it inaccessible. Holy hell, they love that.

Then they'll complain when (Whatever) Finders get made, act like they're ruining the game, and then like they didn't just cause it.

[Zylos]

I don't know I do a +15 like once a week and thats it (sometimes more) but my score is only like 1360 or something. I don't pug, only guild groups, and when we checked all our scores are around the same so it doesn't matter but I just think it's funny how the community uses these tools.

[Deleted]

I've got 1400 Score, Keymaster and 927 iLvL and I still get declined for +15's most of the time. It's ridiculous.

Get higher M+ score? Why would I run every dungeon on +15 when I solely need items from Arcway and Court of Stars?

[Ealyssa]

Sort of but like my other post said. Some of us dong need to do some dungeons so we avoid them. Yet not doing them means ur missing some mythic + score.

And that's fine. You'll then can find people with the same mind set thus more or less the same score as yours (remember wowprogress ALSO has a LFG tool which is quite good).

M+ score isn't there to tell "hey that player is shit" or "wow that player is god". It's more a scale of investment in said content. Despite what people who barely run M+ want to believe it's not about "gogogo" at all, that will wipe your group pretty fast with the most affix sets.
Nearly each affix set ask for a different approach and that strategy also change by dungeon (necrotic hasn't the same impact in NL or BRH for exemple). It's all about selecting players you don't know that allready understand how to play in the content you aim.

Why would I run every dungeon on +15 when I solely need items from Arcway and Court of Stars?

To have fun and challenge yourself in something different ?
Or just more obviously, to help friends who need another dungeon than yours ?

[Nnyco]

just do every dungeon once on like 13ish and u should have like a score of 1500-1800 which should get you into mostly all groups, in time ofc

I've got 1400 Score, Keymaster and 927 iLvL and I still get declined for +15's most of the time. It's ridiculous.

Get higher M+ score? Why would I run every dungeon on +15 when I solely need items from Arcway and Court of Stars?

to get invited into those arcway/cos groups? either join the system, make your own group or do things with a guild

m+score is not a flawless system but it shows me who atleast completed dungeons decently, why pick you over someone who did em and save me the hassle

[Deleted]

That thing should be banned

[Sandraudiga]

This happening to me alot, but since I avoid mythic dungeons like the plague it makes sense.

That being said it is kind of annoying so I am going through and increasing my score. Was only doing one mythic plus each week at the level to get the max chest, and alot of those were the same dungeon so I only had like a mythic score of like 700. Didn't take long to get to 1600 or so, and I've went from a +10 COEN to a +18 COEN as well as a 14 COS to a 17 COS so my score should jump to 1700 ish.

If you work at it, you will get there so don't worry too much.

[Hey There Guys its Metro]

I'd recommend everyone in this thread watch this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYhBPP-XI7M

Far too many people blindly use the score as a selection factor and its ruining the dungeon scene.
There are actual intelligent usages of the concept and its time to start demanding them.

For those in the thread who are new to the score, you unfortunately need to educate yourselves. The video will help with that too.

If a large number of people are aware of this type of misrepresentation - on both sides - we can stop worrying about it.

Refuse to join groups that say things like "2k score only" and NEVER mention score when forming your own pug.

[Deleted]

To have fun and challenge yourself in something different ?
Or just more obviously, to help friends who need another dungeon than yours ?

I do high keys for a) weekly chest or b) titanforged dungeon gear, not for fun or a challenge. I don't have a guild or friends interested in high mythic+ dungeons.

to get invited into those arcway/cos groups? either join the system, make your own group or do things with a guild

Having Keymaster, 1400+ score and being overgeared isn't joining the system then?