Teacher fired for writing "Pepe the Frog" book

[rayden54]

Ah this is hilarious, well done, fun to watch them all get their panties up in a bunch!

The really ironic thing is that most media these days is just about as blatantly liberal propaganda as this is conservative.

[purebalance]

It's not that it "needs to be corrected". In this specific case that we are talking about, as shown by what you just said, freedom of speech has nothing to do with this.



I didn't say fired though, hence, semantics.

Yes, it does mean though that his punishment was not nearly as severe as people are making it sound, but he DID lose his job/position.

It's a public school. It has everything to do with freedom of speech as soon as it is no longer a private school. Also it said that he was removed from his position and his new position is unknown. He could have easily been forced into something lower paying or non teaching and lower paying.

[Acidbaron]

Really now, then tell me why venezuela is so wonderful. More socialism you get, the shittier a nation becomes.

Or let me guess "not real socialism."

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Always hip to blame the generation before.

Socialism in Venezuela falling apart has many causes. A short summary than time for a few pages of a good back and bed time.

Venezuela couldn't maintain its socialist structure, as its economy was based around Oil money, oil prices have been dropping and it being around 80% of their economy means with the price drop their currency also lost a lot of value, if the political class expanded and invested in getting more varied business, re-investing it elsewhere this would not have happened, you can even look deeper into all of this and see even more mistakes. if we look at this in a vacuum we can conclude that the country would have seen economic issues regardless what political ideology they followed, same if we factor in corruption.

It is even so that before this the poor were even worse off, a balanced system would have netted better results, same with a government or political class more interested in the future of the nation rather than their own wealth, something that would have also been a problem if there was no socialism.


Claiming socialism is a failure means that, the ideology cannot provide good economic results, that it cannot provide and it cannot make the country grow.

Do those examples exist? Do those nations that did poorly on an exclusive right leadership now improve again despite a lot of doubt seeing how nations like Greece failed?
Is it really socialism to blame or is it merely corruption and incompetence in the political class?

They do, i present you Portugal. http://www.politico.eu/article/anton...l-contraption/


And now i'm signing off, oh yes. Before you attempt another one of those easiest tricks in the book. I'm a Flemish Nationalist belonging on right to centrum right. Before that i was a Christian Democrat, again centrum right to right.

Going socialism is bad! is how cavemen talk, if you want to be a caveman and not look how to improve ones nation and that people within you may continue to seek in such extreme yet simplistic one liners, Reagan would be proud, than again do you really want a President who was actually a used car salesman to be your idol?

[Machismo]

Folks should have pride in the greatest country in the world. All the whiners need to spend a week in some lesser shithole nation and gain perspective.

So, you've made it clear that you fully support indoctrination, so your issue lies entirely with the subjective content of that indoctrination.

[BuckSparkles]

SO, you've made it clear that you fully support indoctrination, so your issue lies entirely with the subjective content of that indoctrination.

It isn't good for the country to be constantly telling people how awful it is. Talk about ungrateful.

[Alfador]

But it IS irrelevant. That's my point. Once you decided whether or not it's applicable (and it's not in this case), its relevancy ceases to matter.

That's exactly why it's relevant. The test has to be applied, thoroughly, before you can make that determination. It's like saying Miranda rights aren't important once you find evidence of a crime. How you get there is just as important as what you find.
Quite frankly it may very well still be relevant because if this guy decides to take any legal action, the school will have to prevail in their argument that what he did was sufficiently disruptive to create an exception. They certainly won't get to say "well it's not a first amendment issue because we're his employer."

[Machismo]

It isn't good for the country to be constantly telling people how awful it is. Talk about ungrateful.

It seems more logical to tell the truth. Unless of course, the goal is to create a legion of ignorant drones...

[Jester Joe]

It's a public school. It has everything to do with freedom of speech as soon as it is no longer a private school. Also it said that he was removed from his position and his new position is unknown. He could have easily been forced into something lower paying or non teaching and lower paying.

Already addressed this in the last post, saying "it has nothing to do with this" doesn't mean it wasn't relevant at one point.

It means that after judging whether or not it was applicable, it clearly was decided that it isn't, and it stops being relevant at that point. To claim freedom of speech now is far too late, since they already went past that point.

[Sky High]

It isn't good for the country to be constantly telling people how awful it is. Talk about ungrateful.

when the bar is: everything that is even slightly critical of our country is the same as outright hating it

yeah, everything will sound awful to you, PRRROOOJEEECTIIIIOOON.

[Jester Joe]

That's exactly why it's relevant. The test has to be applied, thoroughly, before you can make that determination. It's like saying Miranda rights aren't important once you find evidence of a crime. How you get there is just as important as what you find.
Quite frankly it may very well still be relevant because if this guy decides to take any legal action, the school will have to prevail in their argument that what he did was sufficiently disruptive to create an exception. They certainly won't get to say "well it's not a first amendment issue because we're his employer."

It was applied, thoroughly. And that's not even close. It's like saying Miranda's rights aren't relevant to the topic at the moment because whatever happened was deemed to fall within the normal standards.

[BuckSparkles]

It seems more logical to tell the truth. Unless of course, the goal is to create a legion of ignorant drones...

I mean, the only ignorant drones are the ones acting like the USA is the most evil horrible country in the world and that only we have had bad parts in our history when in reality every nation has had rough patches and overcame them.

If you have a society of people who hate their country and refuse to see all the good it does, how can it survive? That is one reason I think democrats are bad for the country. They only teach hatred and contempt of the USA.

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when the bar is: everything that is even slightly critical of our country is the same as outright hating it

yeah, everything will sound awful to you, PRRROOOJEEECTIIIIOOON.

What are you, 6?

[Zeek Daniels]

Dude thats one scary alligator. And the little sludge monsters are a nice touch.

[Acidbaron]

It isn't good for the country to be constantly telling people how awful it is. Talk about ungrateful.

When i seek to improve something, i also tell others to not look at its faults, to cover it up, to not speak of it and to simply keep moving forward. When car loses a wheel, we don't look at how that happened, we simply assume it was always suppose to work on three wheels and when a person ask what happened to the forth one, we call him a traitor to the company who has no loyalty and is ungrateful. I'm sure our customers will accept that in the future our projects will work just as well without it, otherwise they are evil globalists if they go elsewhere.

I can go on others will get the point you probably won't and you're too easy to make fun off.

And now i'm really gone for the day

[Dr Assbandit]

As if black literature, songs, and movies that are praised aren't full of as much racism towards others? It's funny black comedians can still make fun of Asians in stand up today. The second someone makes a stance against the "protected" people though, it's Islamaphobia right?

Did you even take a glance at the book? That's just a tad above being "islamophobic". Also anyone who has risked their sanity even a tiny bit in alt-right and white nationalist/neo-Nazis websites (as I have) would know the significance and exactly where that terminology is coming from and it's just plain vile.

[Machismo]

I mean, the only ignorant drones are the ones acting like the USA is the most evil horrible country in the world and that only we have had bad parts in our history when in reality every nation has had rough patches and overcame them.

If you have a society of people who hate their country and refuse to see all the good it does, how can it survive? That is one reason I think democrats are bad for the country. They only teach hatred and contempt of the USA.

How is that any different than saying, "Folks should have pride in the greatest country in the world. All the whiners need to spend a week in some lesser shithole nation and gain perspective?"

Why not stick to the truth, good and bad?

Also, are you ready to back up that claim that Democrats only teach hatred and contempt for the USA? You may want to walk that back, since it would literally only take a single example to prove you wrong.

[purebalance]

Already addressed this in the last post, saying "it has nothing to do with this" doesn't mean it wasn't relevant at one point.

It means that after judging whether or not it was applicable, it clearly was decided that it isn't, and it stops being relevant at that point. To claim freedom of speech now is far too late, since they already went past that point.

You "addressed it" by wrong ideas. Freedom of Speech 100% implies that the US/state/local governments cannot affect your job for what he did. You didn't address it. You made a false claim and are now saying "amg we're done with it I addressed it". There have been cases that set out what exactly freedom of speech in the US does. You might want to read up on them.

[Elegiac]

Folks should have pride in the greatest country in the world. All the whiners need to spend a week in some lesser shithole nation and gain perspective.

I agree. We should all have pride in Canada.

Newsflash: Quite a few of the people who are critical of the US' policies -have- been to other countries.

[Jester Joe]

You "addressed it" by wrong ideas. Freedom of Speech 100% implies that the US/state/local governments cannot affect your job for what he did. You didn't address it. You made a false claim and are now saying "amg we're done with it I addressed it". There have been cases that set out what exactly freedom of speech in the US does. You might want to read up on them.

You are hopping into a discussion half way that has already been agreed upon by both sides that his firing/removal did fall within reason, regardless of "Freedom of Speech". The debate now is whether or not talking about it is still relevant. To me, it's not, because it fell within reason. The issue here is that what he did "undermined the employer's interest in discipline and order", as said by the other poster.

There is no "false claim", you should go back and re-read the entire discussion instead.

[BuckSparkles]

When i seek to improve something, i also tell others to not look at its faults, to cover it up, to not speak of it and to simply keep moving forward. When car loses a wheel, we don't look at how that happened, we simply assume it was always suppose to work on three wheels and when a person ask what happened to the forth one, we call him a traitor to the company who has no loyalty and is ungrateful. I'm sure our customers will accept that in the future our projects will work just as well without it, otherwise they are evil globalists if they go elsewhere.

I can go on others will get the point you probably won't and you're too easy to make fun off.

And now i'm really gone for the day

Right, because somebody with your viewpoints really makes me worry about how you think.

I already assume people like you would silence and remove people like me if you could get away from it, so acting like somehow just now you don't like me really doesn't have any effect.

[Skroe]

If you want to know how Osama bin Laden won the War on Terror (and it wasn't even close) when it comes to the Alt-Right, this picture captures it.



Here we have a picture of thinly vieled muslim stereotypes, meant to scare them, designed for a children's books, 16 years later. That is the extent of Osama Bin Laden's victory over them. He has successfully colonized the minds and souls of some weak willed Alt-Right Americans to the point they feel they must instill fear in children.

"We have nothing to fear but fear itself". Too bad the ALt-Right isn't made of such stuff to take that to heart. Cowards through and through.