Anti-antifa = fa

[Lochton]

Really? Antifa bodycount still 0.

Honestly, I don't know. I just know from what I've heard from people that have been experiencing them, and it wasn't pretty.

Though, something gotta be going on, why would over 90000 signatures be there to attempt declaring them as domestic terrorists? Then again, if I recall, petition sites can be duped.

Honestly, their choice of method is just as problematic as other means.

[Elba]

If they kill someone - or break any other actual laws - they will get to face the consequences anyway.

Their goal is to kill people. That's why they exist. Why wait so long? Heather would still be alive if you guys had stopped the Nazis beforehand.

[rogueMatthias]

Yeah, they aren't only there to prevent though, they seem to cause just as much a problem in some situations.

I think people are also forgetting that until this case in Charlottesville, where they've had actual Nazi-wannabes to punch, they've mostly been violently rioting/protesting anything they disagree with (and thus brand as facism). Milo's a fucking idiot, for instance, but should they really have been throwing Molotov cocktails around, and throwing rocks and pepper spray at people who'd turned up to listen?

[Deleted]

Fighting fascists makes you a fascists. Flawless logic.

I think using physical violence against anyone who disagrees with you is pretty fascist.

Antifa have been doing that since Trump was elected.

Just because one side (the white supremacists) are bad doesn't mean the other side (Antifa) get a free reign to do whatever they want.

They're both retarded, and backing either side just makes you look retarded as well.

[Lochton]

Pretty sure the police, who were there en masse, could have dealt with the nazis if they went on the attack. Believe it or not, going and assaulting people doesnt make you any better than them. If people are committing crimes, i.e. assaulting people, that's what the judicial system is for, and they're known for not being nice to nazis. Also, I 100% believe those people were there looking for a fight, and thats the only reason they went, how does that make them any better than the nazis?

I actually have an interesting question on this.

Did these Nazis attack before, or after Antifa appeared? As it seems and stands, many Antifa is huge fans of black bloc after all.

[Deleted]

You say like it's a bad thing.



Death to Marxism.

[Eldar45]

Name me one good socialist nation, as in one that lasted long and prospered. I can name a long list of those that failed and I can't name a single one that succeeded. Socialism consumes the fruits of capitalism and then starves itself out. Venezuela is the latest in a long list of massive failures. Before 1999 Venuzuala was a prospering nation, now its a starving Socialist hell hole.

And being Pro-Antifa is to be pro Witch Hunting. With the modern day witches being anyone that isn't an Anarcho-Communist.


The communist experiment is a failure, get over it.

[Lochton]

I think people are also forgetting that until this case in Charlottesville, where they've had actual Nazi-wannabes to punch, they've mostly been violently rioting/protesting anything they disagree with (and thus brand as facism). Milo's a fucking idiot, for instance, but should they really have been throwing Molotov cocktails around, and throwing rocks and pepper spray at people who'd turned up to listen?

Of course they shouldn't. Reason I actually asked, if the problems were actually just started by them.

[Elba]

I think using physical violence against anyone who disagrees with you is pretty facist.

Well, then you are factually wrong. That is not what fascism is, which is an ideology.

Antifa have been doing that since Trump was elected.

Just because one side (the white supremacists) are bad doesn't mean the other side (Antifa) get a free reign to do whatever they want.

They're both retarded, and backing either side just makes you look retarded as well.

So, how many people do the Nazis have to kill before you think we should do something about them? 100? 1000? A million?

[Toogoodman]

Yet they didn't.



Doesn't really matter what you "100% believe".

Elba, why do you, on every thread try to make the extremists on the left some sort of dignified cause, that doesn't hurt anyone? I really do get confused by this? Antifa has fire bombed cars, stabbed horses, rioted in the streets, assaulted people.

Nazis are awful people, white nationalists are awful people, both these groups are probably murderous people. Antifa is no better man, i dont know why you throw your lot in with people like that, committing violence against people you dont agree with is wrong, and makes you no better than them.

As many people have said, you dont fight fascism with fascism.

[Elba]

I actually have an interesting question on this.

Did these Nazis attack before, or after Antifa appeared? As it seems and stands, many Antifa is huge fans of black bloc after all.

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[Nathreim]

Sure, but instead of fighting Nazis you want to just sit idly by and let them spread their propaganda and kill more people? What is your solution?

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Maybe, maybe not. But racists at the very least.

Nazis have the right to spread their bullshit this has gone to the Supreme Court several times you cant use violence it will only make things escalate. Ignoring them is the best way to beat them they grow off attention and violence deprive them of that and they become irrelevant.

[Deleted]

So, how many people do the Nazis have to kill before you think we should do something about them? 100? 1000? A million?

What do you mean "do something about them", the guy who killed someone has been arrested.

What do you want? a Night of the Long Knives style mass murder of Nazis? Sounds pretty Fascist to me.

[Sky High]

oh, the comic communist doesn't like being disagreed with, what a surprise..../s

[Sliske]

Anyone that attended school knows that -x minus -x is x

People wouldn't listen. They said things like lolol there are no nazis you're a dangerous paranoid !!1

And now there are supremacists marching in the streets with torches nazis flags, running through crowds with their cars



I want to respect opinions but at this point if you still oppose anti fascists for preventing nazi oppression guess what maybe you're directly collaborating with these wannabe SS idiots.

Capitalism has gone way too far and the age of moderates is over deal with it

Remember ussr was merely an early draft, once capitalism inevitably destroys itself, communism will take over and fix the mistakes of greedy individualists

So you want us to condemn a group of morons calling themselves nazis, by supporting a group of communist thugs that are known to want to kill people, attack people with deadly weapons and generally try to sow panic and disorder in society?

Yeah, no. I think i'll be just fine not support either of you morons. Make no mistake though - Antifa are clearly the more dangerous group. Its like comparing the KKK to the Islamic State. One is a laughable joke, remnants of the past - one is an armed and dangerous semi coordinated group that frequently assaults the streets of America and Western Europe.

In short - fuck off Antifa, you lunatic fucks.

[Toogoodman]

I actually have an interesting question on this.

Did these Nazis attack before, or after Antifa appeared? As it seems and stands, many Antifa is huge fans of black bloc after all.

Antifa showed up, crossed the street, and instigated the attack, its all on camera, just google it. Saying either side is right or wrong is just stupid, its two idiotic groups showing up to battle.

[Elba]

Elba, why do you, on every thread try to make the extremists on the left some sort of dignified cause, that doesn't hurt anyone? I really do get confused by this? Antifa has fire bombed cars, stabbed horses, rioted in the streets, assaulted people.

Because Nazis do kill innocent people and want to kill more. And I do value innocent people higher than things.

Nazis are awful people, white nationalists are awful people, both these groups are probably murderous people. Antifa is no better man, i dont know why you throw your lot in with people like that, committing violence against people you dont agree with is wrong, and makes you no better than them.

Nazism is not merely something "you don't agree with". Any opposition to Nazism is just. Their goal is the eradication of all Jews, PoC, LGBT & disabled people.

That is not merely a different opinion.

As many people have said, you dont fight fascism with fascism.

Antifa ain't fascists. Fascism is an ideology.

[Deleted]

Well, then you are factually wrong. That is not what fascism is, which is an ideology.



So, how many people do the Nazis have to kill before you think we should do something about them? 100? 1000? A million?

Maybe 85 to 100 million, like communists did? Tit for tat.
I don't know. You should tell me.

[Sliske]

So, how many people do the Nazis have to kill before you think we should do something about them? 100? 1000? A million?

How about Islamists? Oh sorry, I mean "Asian people." How about Black Lives Matter?

Are you universally against terror, or just when its done by white supremacist terrorists? What is your opinion on communist terrorism (Antifa) Islamic terrorism (Lone wolves supporting IS) and Black supremacy terrorism (Black Lives Matter)

[Elba]

What do you mean "do something about them", the guy who killed someone has been arrested.

What do you want? a Night of the Long Knives style mass murder of Nazis? Sounds pretty Fascist to me.

Stop them from spreading their ideology. Throw them in jail.

And again, you don't know what fascism is.