Why Even Nazis Deserve Free Speech

[JohnBrown1917]

extinct...?

Better tell that to those at the recent rally.

[Elegiac]

Hitler was an idiot and a mass murderer.
This does not mean that everything that he believed in was wrong.

Like attacking (((wealthy bankers)))?

[Machismo]

Hahahahahahahaha
The good old "it's not REAL communism! REAL communism never killed anyone and never failed!"
Good one.

No, real communism never even really existed.

Hitler was still a terrible guy, and millions died from his genocide.

[BajPally]

Please do elaborate where I have apologised for the actions of totalitarian regimes.

You shifted the blame from communism to generic totalitarianism.

[Vyxn]

Right to assemble? They never did that, they did a lot of horrible and unspeakable things, but that never happened. The nazis were bad enough, no reason to make stuff up.

They didn't need to revoke the law to assemble, because they needed no further justification to just grab people of the streets. There were actually little laws regarding all of this (after nuremberg) because nazis just did what they like.

Nuremberg Laws
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Laws

they striped Jews of their citizenship which took away all rights

[Cthulhu 2020]

Guys, we should let ISIS speak their opinions about wiping out western civilization, and we should allow them to spread ideas about how they're going to go about accomplishing this.

If you disagree with me you hate the first amendment and are going down a slippery slope you can't come back from!!!!!!

[Elegiac]

You shifted the blame from communism to generic totalitarianism.

Primarily because both the USSR and Maoist China were pretty generic totalitarian states.

[Deleted]

Hahahahahahahaha
The good old "it's not REAL communism! REAL communism never killed anyone and never failed!"
Good one.

Weren't you the one saying "natsoc aren't the nazis"? Pot calling the kettle.

[PC2]

The law protects these people from the government. Not from the rest of us.

The government does protect their right to free speech from "the rest of us".

[zorkuus]

Hitler was an idiot and a mass murderer.
This does not mean that everything that he believed in was wrong.

Yes we know you hate jews. You just don't want genocide, so that makes it ok.

[Elegiac]

The government does protect their right to free speech from "the rest of us".

Not in the slightest. It does not protect you from the social consequences of being a neo-nazi in public.

So keep at it. They're just going to keep getting you fired from your job and ostracised from polite society.

[BajPally]

No, real communism never even really existed.

Because it failed even before they could even fully implement it. Doesn't make it any less real, just more of a failure.

[Wolfman31]

I don't care if Nazis want the freedom to express their views. I really don't. There should be no room for Nazi's to "win". I don't care if it's unfair. Nazis are promoting death, violence and hatred to everyone who isn't one of them. There's no reason to suggest that they should be able to "win some of the time" what kind of bullshit is that?

Fuck that. The Nazis lost in the past, the Nazis will lose now. No second chances. No footholds.

And yet we've seen historically that when Nazis and similar groups have an uninhibited platform, they will quickly hijack the system and undermine aforementioned freedoms.

There have been Nazis in America for more than half a century and communists for even longer than that, and yet America is still democratic and free. Neither party has won some of the time. They've never been big enough to do any real harm. They have their stupid little rallies and sometimes they violently clash with each other, but in the end the center majority holds strong because most Democrats are not Antifa thugs and most Republicans are not Nazis. Why should we let extremists of any kind change the very fabric of our nation? The first thing the Nazis did when they took power was the suppression of free speech. Why do you think doing exactly what the Nazis did somehow protects you from the Nazis? You're only blurring the lines between you and those you oppose.

[Deleted]

Hitler was an idiot and a mass murderer.
This does not mean that everything that he believed in was wrong.

Master race under a cooperativist state and death of all those there weren't the master race was all he believed.

It's not hard, he wrote his words for everyone to read.

[BajPally]

Yes we know you hate jews. You just don't want genocide, so that makes it ok.

So does that mean that you agree that neo-nazis are not genocidal?

[Machismo]

Because it failed even before they could even fully implement it. Doesn't make it any less real, just more of a failure.

Um, yes it does make it less real. It never happened. You even admitted to it.

Hitler was still a terrible guy, and millions died from his genocide.

[Elegiac]

Because it failed even before they could even fully implement it. Doesn't make it any less real, just more of a failure.

You're implicitly admitting that by failing to implement it that actual communism was never implemented.

[zorkuus]

So does that mean that you agree that neo-nazis are not genocidal?

So you are a neo-nazi? Glad you finally admit it.

[BajPally]

Master race under a cooperativist state and death of all those there weren't the master race was all he believed.
It's not hard, he wrote his words for everyone to read.

I said not everything he believed in was wrong. I did not say that everything he believed in was right. I don't agree with genocide, and neither do most modern neonazis.

[PC2]

Not in the slightest. It does not protect you from the social consequences of being a neo-nazi in public.

So keep at it. We're just going to keep getting you fired from your job and ostracised from polite society.

You clearly don't understand what free speech is. Employment has nothing to do with the fact that government has to protect their free speech rights.