US man charged with plotting to bomb Texas Confederate statue

[PosPosPos]

I'd say letting off a BOMB in public is in the same realm as driving a car into people yes, it's creating terror, both of those people are domestic terrorists

Haha, as much as threatening to cut your pocket money if you misbehave as terror.

Going to call your parents "domestic terrorists" next? Goodness, the alt-right are way too dramatic.

[Allybeboba]

Don't mess with Texas!

[unbound]

What is going on in America.. People now blowing up statues..

It started with the radicalization of the right starting in the 70s (more explosively in the 80s and 90s), and now has expanded with the radicalization of the left in the past decade or so.

The basis of the radicalization of the right started mostly with the Powell Memo. This set the stage for conservative think tanks whose purpose was to rationalize that all things that support corporations are good, and anything that doesn't directly support them (via increased profits) must be bad. The American Enterprise Institute utilized the concepts espoused in the Powell Memo and shifted from a technocratic neutral organization into a staunch RW mouthpiece, and other groups were soon founded such as The Heritage Foundation. Once Fox News was founded, the masses had 24/7 constant spin to feed RW ideals to them...whether they understood that or not.

As the right become increasingly radicalized over the decades (the fact that there are any defenders / rationalizers of Nazism clearly shows how horribly far right they have become), the left decided to start up their own counter-approach with the development of Huffington Post (sorry to break the news to the RW idiots, but MSNBC, NY Times, Wash Post, etc are not left-wing...that is another black-and-white fallacy pushed out by RW sources).

With the advent of the internet age, the RW noise machine moved in quickly since they were already completely in place. The LW noise machine, not be left out at this point, has greatly accelerated and developed their own equivalents so that there seems to be as much stupidity on each side with sites such as Fox News and Huffington Post being marginal, and outright garbage sites such as The Daily Caller, Breitbart, Infowars, The Blaze, RedState, David Wolfe, Occupy Democrats, U.S. Uncut, Addicting Info, and Natural News.

Additionally, much of the mainstream media is simply satisfied with covering the drama and not providing any substance to the issues anymore. This is the true crime of CNN, MSNBC, ABC News, NBC News, etc...they rarely provide actual journalism (e.g. discussing in depth what the recent health care bills actually did or did not do) instead providing sports-like broadcasts (e.g. discussing whether the Republicans can get the necessary votes). This has left a major gap for most people who must either rely on their partisan news or actually spend lots of time reading much more robust articles from sites like Vox, Atlantic, Economist, Fiscal Times, etc (which the vast majority of people are too lazy to do).

Thus we have what we see today. Two groups of people who think they know the truth because their partisan sources tell them what that truth is, but lack the intelligence to actually discern what is really going on. Remember that even the dumbest person thinks they are above average, so without a good source of information, they will continue to think their stupid ideas are actually at least better than the average persons ideas.

[Direpenguin]

You know this wasn't happening before the right extremists put a person in the WH.

Oh, so now Trump, and the Right, is to blame for the violence and extremism on the Left? Got it. Basically, the Left will just blame everyone else for the shit going on in their house.

"Hey these statues have been here for ~150 years, but now that Trump is president, TEHY AFFEND MEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!! DAMN TRUMP!!!"

[s_bushido]

Jesus, how do people think that murder is equal to destruction of property.

Hey, if corporations can be people, why not statues?

[Direpenguin]

I condone getting rid of Confederate monuments. The method doesn't matter as long as people don't get hurt.

Well, seeing how there is no longer a Confederacy, there are no such thing as "Confederate monuments". There, problem solved.

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Jesus, how do people think that murder is equal to destruction of property.

Probably using the same logic the Left has been using to equate rioting with peaceful protests... Funny how you like to downplay anything that doesn't fit your preferred agenda.

[Manabomb]

It started with the radicalization of the right starting in the 70s (more explosively in the 80s and 90s), and now has expanded with the radicalization of the left in the past decade or so.

The basis of the radicalization of the right started mostly with the Powell Memo. This set the stage for conservative think tanks whose purpose was to rationalize that all things that support corporations are good, and anything that doesn't directly support them (via increased profits) must be bad. The American Enterprise Institute utilized the concepts espoused in the Powell Memo and shifted from a technocratic neutral organization into a staunch RW mouthpiece, and other groups were soon founded such as The Heritage Foundation. Once Fox News was founded, the masses had 24/7 constant spin to feed RW ideals to them...whether they understood that or not.

As the right become increasingly radicalized over the decades (the fact that there are any defenders / rationalizers of Nazism clearly shows how horribly far right they have become), the left decided to start up their own counter-approach with the development of Huffington Post (sorry to break the news to the RW idiots, but MSNBC, NY Times, Wash Post, etc are not left-wing...that is another black-and-white fallacy pushed out by RW sources).

With the advent of the internet age, the RW noise machine moved in quickly since they were already completely in place. The LW noise machine, not be left out at this point, has greatly accelerated and developed their own equivalents so that there seems to be as much stupidity on each side with sites such as Fox News and Huffington Post being marginal, and outright garbage sites such as The Daily Caller, Breitbart, Infowars, The Blaze, RedState, David Wolfe, Occupy Democrats, U.S. Uncut, Addicting Info, and Natural News.

Additionally, much of the mainstream media is simply satisfied with covering the drama and not providing any substance to the issues anymore. This is the true crime of CNN, MSNBC, ABC News, NBC News, etc...they rarely provide actual journalism (e.g. discussing in depth what the recent health care bills actually did or did not do) instead providing sports-like broadcasts (e.g. discussing whether the Republicans can get the necessary votes). This has left a major gap for most people who must either rely on their partisan news or actually spend lots of time reading much more robust articles from sites like Vox, Atlantic, Economist, Fiscal Times, etc (which the vast majority of people are too lazy to do).

Thus we have what we see today. Two groups of people who think they know the truth because their partisan sources tell them what that truth is, but lack the intelligence to actually discern what is really going on. Remember that even the dumbest person thinks they are above average, so without a good source of information, they will continue to think their stupid ideas are actually at least better than the average persons ideas.

This is pretty much accurate as it stands from a historical point of view. The right and the left have become mouth pieces for the most extreme and the most radical while the rest of us in the center are left wondering whether or not we can go up or down instead of left or right.

[Doctor Amadeus]

Saus: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...derate-statue/


What is going on in America.. People now blowing up statues..

I guess that wasn't a good idea.

[Post]

What an idiot, why would you bomb when you can just gather a bunch of people to tear it down and get widespread support?

[Dreknar20]

What an idiot, why would you bomb when you can just gather a bunch of people to tear it down and get widespread support?

explosions look better, you know.... "for thr (insta)gram!"

[Bodakane]

Oh, so now Trump, and the Right, is to blame for the violence and extremism on the Left? Got it. Basically, the Left will just blame everyone else for the shit going on in their house.

"Hey these statues have been here for ~150 years, but now that Trump is president, TEHY AFFEND MEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!! DAMN TRUMP!!!"

Yes.

Where were these antifa riots before Trump? Exactly, nowhere.

The past decade+ however has seen more people killed in the US by domestic right terrorists than Muslim ones.

Stop believing the bullshit, and open your eyes....nazis are ALWAYS the bad guys.

[Noogai131]

Yes.

Where were these antifa riots before Trump? Exactly, nowhere.

The past decade+ however has seen more people killed in the US by domestic right terrorists than Muslim ones.

Stop believing the bullshit, and open your eyes....nazis are ALWAYS the bad guys.

Are you saying Antifa does not have agency? That their actions are directly controlled by the current president and not of their own volition?

Are you dense?

[Uncle]

But, but, but ! Antifa !

[Themius]

Oh, so now Trump, and the Right, is to blame for the violence and extremism on the Left? Got it. Basically, the Left will just blame everyone else for the shit going on in their house.

"Hey these statues have been here for ~150 years, but now that Trump is president, TEHY AFFEND MEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!! DAMN TRUMP!!!"

Well the left is apparently to blame for this apparently



People have been trying to get these statues down for ages.... literally decades. Just because you're clueless of it doesn't mean other people weren't trying. Try not to measure whether things are happening or not based on whether you have knowledge of them happening or not... that's just foolish

Also 1920 wasn't 150 years ago... 1940 wasn't 150 years ago.

[Bodakane]

Are you saying Antifa does not have agency? That their actions are directly controlled by the current president and not of their own volition?

Are you dense?

The fuck?

No, pay attention.

I'm saying the current iteration of antifa is an unorganized mishmash of people whose only real goal is to publicly oppose neo nazis and white nationalists. Trump courted and then emboldened the neo nazis and white nationalists who've been more public. That's why antifa has been more public.

You want antifa to go away, then make Trump and the white nationalists go away.

[Adam Jensen]

Did the colonel fight to defend the rights of slave owners?

And, in reference to another post on this thread, did the Kings of Gondor fight to defend the rights of slave owners?

These false equivalencies are getting ridiculous.

[Deleted]

And, in reference to another post on this thread, did the Kings of Gondor fight to defend the rights of slave owners?

These false equivalencies are getting ridiculous.

You really can't imagine why the descendants of slaves don't like statues commemorating people that fought and died to protect slavery?

And yes you can answer like a smug cunt again.

[Adam Jensen]

You really can't imagine why the descendants of slaves don't like statues commemorating people that fought and died to protect slavery?

I think I was agreeing with you?

[Deleted]

I think I was agreeing with you?

Apologies if you were but your reply certainly didn't read as if you did.

[Adam Jensen]

Apologies if you were but your reply certainly didn't read as if you did.

Right. I was saying that asking to tear down a statue of Col. Sanders is as stupid as asking Gondor to tear down the Gates of Argonath. In other words, I was just adding on to your post.