World of Warcraft: Before the Storm

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Is anyone surprised after Blizzard hired Christie Golden for good? If anything, there will be yearly books now. And maybe more audio dramas (I'd love that!).

Honestly with this being the obvious lead-in book to 8.0 I think they hired her so she could consult full-time on 8.0's story. So this whole disconnect between Book Lore and Game Lore isn't as blatant.

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You're free to pay the books for me, Richie Rich. PM me for my address.

Also, since we're making unrelated statements, I also pay the same on 3 boxes of condoms. Wow cool, we can now share prices of things we pay for.

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What does "salty" have to do with anything? Just agree or fucking disagree, no one asked you to qualify my tone of writing.

I'm free to not pay for anything for some random whiner on the internet. Yes, im speaking about you, go earn your own money or quit whining, or rather - both.

[tristannarutofan]

You're free to pay the books for me, Richie Rich. PM me for my address.

Also, since we're making unrelated statements, I also pay the same on 3 boxes of condoms. Wow cool, we can now share prices of things we pay for.

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What does "salty" have to do with anything? Just agree or fucking disagree, no one asked you to qualify my tone of writing.

Yea. "Salty "means your tone is unnecessary and if u want to talk like an adult now is the time.

If you have a good opinion you should have some self respect and not invalidate your opinion by coming accross as a rabid kobald

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A tad salty but still right. They keep putting important events to the main game into external books so the lore-interested buy those too. It's weird. Garrosh's trial was resumed into "Garrosh went to the past!" in-game.

I dont want to sit in a scenario for 8 hours while listening to prerecorded audio of a room of ppl discussing what genocide is.

You dont either.

Litrerally the only way that could be in game is with those Lore books......and if they are going to do that they should just upload the pdf.

Yall should be supporting making the info accessible. Not putting it in a format you dont even want yourself.

Also in regards to the lore books. Those are super simple synopsises. The war of the ancients was 3 pages while the books where three books.

You dont have to agree but you should because you are objectively wrong.

Strive for accessable lore. Not badly implimented lore. There is no way putting 4-6 hours of written dialogue, descriptions, and events would ever work in game

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The book has to do something with the next expansion. The title before the storm has reference to something in the sea possibly? or a war that would be broken out? With what Sargeras has done in silthius it must have some important impact in the lore of wow i.e. well of eternity v2? Wow has focus too much on the bigger enemy maybe this will bring it back to what some people want it to be about the lore between alliance and the horde? I've read most of the warcraft books and I have to say that I love reading them and I think Christie will do a brilliant job with this book as well - i just find the name quiet interesting since it's recently propped up.

[Svad1287]

Everything in the books will end up in the WiKi. Besides, it's Christie Golden, and trudging through her books is painful. Seriously, I think in one book (star wars novel) she must have paused 5 times in two pages to mention how slow cutting through blast doors is with a light saber.

Hehe, true, but not as painfull as Tolkien, who spend way to much time writing about fields of corn, trees and rivers. Took me 3 years to go through LotR, because its so damn boring...

That said, I have always enjoyed reading C. Golden, dono what it is about her, but she puts alot of feeling / emotion into her / blizzards chars.

Knark, is abit meeh though, he peaked with the Huma books, back in my early childhood.

[Mahmeya]

Is anyone surprised after Blizzard hired Christie Golden for good? If anything, there will be yearly books now. And maybe more audio dramas (I'd love that!).

Aren't most of those written by R. Brooks? Thousand years, Tomb, Son of the Wolf, Hellscream...

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Everything in the books will end up in the WiKi. Besides, it's Christie Golden, and trudging through her books is painful. Seriously, I think in one book (star wars novel) she must have paused 5 times in two pages to mention how slow cutting through blast doors is with a light saber.

Despite I liked more William King wrtiting in "Illidan", Golden has done a pretty good job with WoW books in the past few years, both in terms of writing and story.
Too bad most of the times Blizzard simply ignores characters development in the books shortly after their release (see Jaina).

Some of the books are nice but they get retconned and ignored so often that I'm not sure if reading them is really worth it.

Most of the books that got retconned so far were from Knack, and that is good.

I'm free to not pay for anything for some random whiner on the internet. Yes, im speaking about you, go earn your own money or quit whining, or rather - both.

What an incredibly childish answer, you basically just said to someone "stop being poor" like Paris Hilton did.
Having a work does not mean everyone can buy whatever they want, we all have our personal financial problems. With my work I can buy the books, you apparently can too, maybe the guy you quoted cannot. Calling him out with "go earn some money" makes your answer even worse than his salty ones.

[Enrif]

"Before the Storm" and what happens during a Storm? From Wiki "A storm surge or storm tide is a coastal flood or tsunami-like phenomenon of rising water"
Tides of Vengeance confirmed?

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What an incredibly childish answer, you basically just said to someone "stop being poor" like Paris Hilton did.
Having a work does not mean everyone can buy whatever they want, we all have our personal financial problems. With my work I can buy the books, you apparently can too, maybe the guy you quoted cannot. Calling him out with "go earn some money" makes your answer even worse than his salty ones.

After telling me to go buy him books and adding, that he spends 25$ on condoms, I think, this was the best possible answer I could have given.

Also, Im nowhere close to rich, but whining for 25$, when I spend like 50 every week for going out ONCE, or spending as much for going to the cinema ONCE/month is not my thing.

[Kul Tiras]

I'm free to not pay for anything for some random whiner on the internet. Yes, im speaking about you, go earn your own money or quit whining, or rather - both.

My point wasn't about having money or not, it's about paying more money for stuff that should be included in the price we paid for the game, considering other games do it for games that are cheaper and/or don't even have monthly fees. Also, money is generally earned by default, the only other ways to get it are to steal, win randomly or find it.

The next time you boast about how much money you waste stupidly on a bad night out of with friends take the time to determine whether that has any fucking thing to do with the subject at hand (hint: it doesn't, and you should probably re-evaluate your friends and spending habits, since they don't teach that in high school anymore).

Yea. "Salty "means your tone is unnecessary and if u want to talk like an adult now is the time.

If you have a good opinion you should have some self respect and not invalidate your opinion by coming accross as a rabid kobald

There is no template for talking as an adult, this isn't the UN and swearing is part of every day language. What you call "salty" in your hipster term of the month lingo is what other people call "engaged", which may take different forms, one of which is passionate swearing.

Swearing does not invalidate an opinion. If I say "the fucking police should not kill a fucking innocent man, whether they be fucking black or white, just because they ran the stop sign", that opinion is not invalidated, it's just common sense.

Have some self respect and stop pretending you give a shit about things you don't just because it's à l'ordre du jour to be politically correct on the internet.

[Nyel]

This pretty much means the next expansion won't be released until Q3/18 but we already knew that.

[Grimo]

Doesn't necessarily infer Horde vs Alliance. Just that the focus may swap between the two chapter by chapter to show what is important to each faction.

And anyone expecting the next expansion before next May hasn't been playing WoW long enough to look forward to a new expansion.

Imply. The word is imply, not infer. You 'infer' something from a text, but a text 'implies' something. I'm sorry but I had to - I see it a lot on this forum. Something must be said!

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So, basically, Christie Golden is the creative dev behind 8.x WoW.

[Ealyssa]

I have no FUCKING IDEA what happened during Garrosh's trial

Reading book is hard.

Hiding you're disdain for text behind a stupid "herp derp itz not in eh gamez U kno". Text is text, period. You either want to know more about the lore or you don't. You're pathetic.

[A Chozo]

What does "salty" have to do with anything? Just agree or fucking disagree, no one asked you to qualify my tone of writing.

So glad no one here needs your permission to criticize your salty writting then. You could've said your entire opinion without putting your emotions there, which makes it easier to agree/disagree/discuss.

I dont want to sit in a scenario for 8 hours while listening to prerecorded audio of a room of ppl discussing what genocide is.

You dont either.

C'mon dude, there are numerous storytelling methods that could show Garrosh's Trial. An NPC with optional dialogue - those "What did you mean by X?", the lore books you mentioned.... don't need the entire trial recorded there, otherwise we would have another one of those movies with the bee in a trial about honey.

But the current implementation? What if suddenly, in this new book, we discover that Jaina's totally existent brother made a pact with N'zoth to save Kul'tiras from sinking in the Cataclysm, and she battled him? Currently, in game, that would've been compacted into "My brother is a Twilight Cultist now. Defeat him and bring me the family ring". We'r just saying that more info could've been put into the game. They can keep launching books, but the game's lore need some juice.

Or, if they really want to put the story details into books and put a one-line resume in-game, the books should be avaliable as pdfs, like Nathanos story. Cool little lore bit about how Sylvannas managed to create something similar to a 1st Gen Death Knight. I'm not aware if all the other books are currently avaliable, but if the lore in the book is important - Garrosh's Trial explained how WoD could even happen - we need a better way to visualize it.

Otherwise, books should be about side storylines that enrich the lore. I think the one with Sintharia's demise and the twilight energy dragon-thing is a better example. It has importance, but it's not crucial information.

[Kul Tiras]

Reading book is hard.

Hiding you're disdain for text behind a stupid "herp derp itz not in eh gamez U kno". Text is text, period. You either want to know more about the lore or you don't. You're pathetic.

You didn't even bother to read any of my posts, I stated the exact opposite of what you're accusing me to do.

And they ask me why I call people "post grinders" on these forums.

You're beyond pathetic, you're a worm.

[Eleccybubb]

You didn't even bother to read any of my posts, I stated the exact opposite of what you're accusing me to do.

And they ask me why I call people "post grinders" on these forums.

You're beyond pathetic, you're a worm.

I don't think anyone asked you why. Just that it's a tad overused.

Anyway there are plenty of lore related books if you are interested in that sort of thing.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Crimes-Worl...rds=war+crimes

Pretty cheap on paperback. I know how you mentioned about Garrosh's trial but there are some other good ones.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/World-Warcr...ld+of+warcraft

If you like preludes like Cata then I'd highly recommend that.

You aren't exactly missing out on anything major by not reading them although I'd recommend finding recaps if you like the lore a lot.

Oh and since you mentioned Arthas I'm not sure if this gates the gap between Frozen Throne and WoW since I haven't read it but I imagine it would

https://www.amazon.co.uk/World-Warcr...arcraft+arthas

Enjoy the books!

[SirCowdog]

I dont want to sit in a scenario for 8 hours while listening to prerecorded audio of a room of ppl discussing what genocide is.

You dont either.

Hmm...but I might listen to an audio-track of it if it was available to play in-game while I was farming WQs or mats, or doing daily dungeons and such.

[Armakus]

You arrogant f...... some of you like to read do you? Did you know that Warcraft 2 came with a lore manual? Did you know that WC3 did as well? As did the original WoW, to some extent?

Did you know that the original WoW had a massive number of books you could read in game about its lore? Do you know what quest text is? You like to read do you?

Do you know that there are many games which have in-game lore repositories to keep track of the story and inform the players if they want to remember things later? For a cheaper price than WoW asks, and for much better and complex story too, other than "this guy was dead, but now he's back!".

I have no FUCKING IDEA what happened during Garrosh's trial because NONE of it is covered expect maybe mentioned in passing by some quest somewhere in Nagrand. I have no FUCKING IDEA what happened to Arthas between Frozen Throne and WOTLK because many of the elements mentioned about his new state of mind and being in WOTLK reference events that happened during a book which was once again not covered in game.

WoW is not just "the game". It's the game and its lore, without lore it's just a glorified HK/purple pixels grinding simulator.

Yeah you....some of US TOO like to read, except for the price we pay, we barely get table scraps, and very important events and insights are cut out and placed into physical book "DLCs".

So much cringe.

[Swargle]

Hehe, true, but not as painfull as Tolkien, who spend way to much time writing about fields of corn, trees and rivers. Took me 3 years to go through LotR, because its so damn boring...

That said, I have always enjoyed reading C. Golden, dono what it is about her, but she puts alot of feeling / emotion into her / blizzards chars.

Knark, is abit meeh though, he peaked with the Huma books, back in my early childhood.

Well I'll admit she has gotten progressively better over the years, but I had to make 5 separate attempts to get through Arthas.