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    Does anyone else do this?

    I'm I the only person that prays with each expansion they'll bring back 2hand'd enhancement shamans. I remember the days of Vanilla where I'd use Unstoppable Force and have a blast with it. There was also this HighWarlord Tauren shaman on my server with a Hand Of Rag watching him go into Bg's (since at that time it was just server vs server) would bring a smile onto my face. Just curious if I'm the only one.

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    I didn't play back when it was really overpowered. But if they make 2H viable again, it's gonna be balanced anyway

    But it could be nice to have to decide if you want to have alot of MS procs, more windfury procs, but lower damage. Also have 2 enchants over one, or having a 2H that could give you BIG spikey numbers, but make you lose utility, especially in PvP due to 1 enchant and less MS procs.

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    I'm sure they'd mess around with the talent tree to have 2H viable, an example would be the warrior fury tree where you have the option to either pick 2 2handers or continue using 2 1handers. Don't get me wrong I love duel wielding I'm a fist weapon enthusiast but the option to switch to 2handers to duel wielding I think would be a nice one.

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    I don't know... I remember how happy I was when I could dual-wield with my shaman way back when because it looked way more stylish than using that two-hander...

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    I never got to play my shaman with a 2 hander as enhance >.> damn my joining late and not deciding to play my shaman till it was too late! I would definitely like the options for shamans to open up in general in terms of weapons combo's but i'm not sure it will happen >.>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seriss View Post
    I don't know... I remember how happy I was when I could dual-wield with my shaman way back when because it looked way more stylish than using that two-hander...
    You clearly don't have a Hand of Rag.
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    One of the problems i see with re-introducing 2H for Enhancement is that they'd have to make 2H Axes and 2H Maces with Agility S´;S

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    I didnt play Vanilla. Did 2h Enh use STR weapons? or were there AGI 2handers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deseo View Post
    I didnt play Vanilla. Did 2h Enh use STR weapons? or were there AGI 2handers?
    There were very few 2h agility weapons, and i dont think there were any viable ones for lvl 60.
    I dint play a Shaman back then so i honestly cant say i paid any attention to it.

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    Well we at that time we did have 2 handers with agi on them since hunters could use 2h axes and swords

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deseo View Post
    I didnt play Vanilla. Did 2h Enh use STR weapons? or were there AGI 2handers?
    In Vanilla, Enh got as much out of Str as Agi, really.

    2h Enhancement is a concept that's based on a whole bunch of principles that much up things for a lot of people who AREN'T Shaman, and bringing it in provides basically no actual benefit to the game, since Enhancement remains a melee spec and gains no additional flexibility.


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    I sometimes wonder if it will come back. I used to run around town with my shaman who had a Reforged Trollbane enchanted and reforged horribly just for fun. This was back when the troll dungeons were still relevant.



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    Back in vanilla the stats were very much different from the current game. No matter what class, you would always get melee attack power from strength. Prime example of this would be Crusader, it was the must have enchant for any melee, not including druids though. So the weapons were not the problem. Get lucky with the PvE, craft Sulfuras and join BG.

    The 2h enhancement was liked because it was broken and overpowered. You could pretty much one shot everybody with a bit of luck. The emhasis on the word luck. With bad RNG you wouldn't get any WF procs and with +3.0 s swing timer it was always a gamble. Once in a while it was fun to join a random BG, get berserking and one shot paladins. But for anything else the dual wielding has improved the quality of life for enhancement shamans.

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    Our abilities seem to have evolved away from 2H use. LL does just as much burst as a 2H ever did, but I would love to see it come back....I think it would be alot of fun. An odd thing I have noticed though is that in all the premade Shaman they always include a 2H str weapon. I think Blizz is trolling us.....lol

    It also bothers me alot that they have made DW+2H work for alot of other classes, specifically frost DK's and now Windwalker Monks. Monks especially will be using DW and 2H agility weapons, so it makes me think that its possible for Enhance. DW could be sustained DPS for PVE, with 2H for burst in PVP. In the end though, I'm fine with DW as well. Being able to have 2 elem imbues is nice, and works with unleash elements.....gives us the option to have a damage and utility imbue, even though we rarely use the utility. Would rather see our OH imbues be easier to switch around, like FT FB and RB.

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    I remember playing enhance during beta in 2004 and those 2H axe triple windfury hits were so overpowered, I would sometimes wonder why that mob was already dead when I just hit autoattack and did nothing else yet.
    That aside, I think that enhance should be allowed to use 2H effectively nowadays. It would be a nice change.

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    Well they could make 2H maces with agility for enha shamans and ferals and not staffs with agility?

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    Quote Originally Posted by simeonch View Post
    Well they could make 2H maces with agility for enha shamans and ferals and not staffs with agility?
    Yes, they could. We can use staffs as well though, so not like it's a problem there. With monks being another 2H agil user, we will prob see more 2H maces too.

    Other then them trying to make Enh DW only, I think another reason we are getting left out while monks will still be able to use DW/2H is cause both monks and druids have a tank spec that use 2H staff/mace weapons. We would basically be taking a tank weapon away from tanks, while a monk/druid could use for either dps or tanking.

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    Shammies using staves (or polearms at a stretch) for enhance would look pretty cool.
    To balance weapons they could throw in some with no base agi or str but proc an effect like the DS trinkets giving you up to 10 stacks of agi or str depending on your highest (though tbh that has more to do with my main being a retridin wanting to use a polearm for transmog).
    When it comes to shammy prayers though, I pray more for earthcaller (tank) spec.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
    Shammies using staves (or polearms at a stretch) for enhance would look pretty cool.
    To balance weapons they could throw in some with no base agi or str but proc an effect like the DS trinkets giving you up to 10 stacks of agi or str depending on your highest (though tbh that has more to do with my main being a retridin wanting to use a polearm for transmog).
    When it comes to shammy prayers though, I pray more for earthcaller (tank) spec.
    Using a staff/polearm would be pretty amusing to see in action. I remember someone having the idea that we could imbue both ends of a staff with a different elem imbue, that would look sweet with the trails from the imbue animation while swinging. Although I do prefer the more "savage" 2H's like mace or axe.

    As for Earthcaller, or "Earthwarden" as I call it.....Amen to that brother! I pray for tank spec every day, might have to bring it up a notch and start doing some blood sacrifices to really get them prayers heard.

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    I think most people remember 2h enhance with nostalgia tinted glasses.. it was mostly running around auto attacking hoping for a windfury on windfury proc.
    That said, having a slower 2h weapon might help with haste scaling a bit.

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